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post by BudPiffo   |  | 
Mysterious radio facility way outside Beijing
< on 7/20/2020 3:46 AM >

I had the opportunity to visit some rural-ish villages outside Beijing in 2016. While there, I found this very interesting place but did not have the time to explore it. As it's *very* unlikely I'll be in China again, I hope giving away this location isn't too much a breach of etiquette, and also that someone checks it out for realsies. While seemingly abandoned, it's still "alive" with electricity + ventilation, and I wonder what it was used for.

Surprised to see how accurate Google Maps was in the PRC, seeing as how it's banned there.




"Tourists, go back" (maybe...)


Unmistakably abandoned and interesting


The cameras didn't *seem* to be operational...








Through here, ventilation and electricity are clearly audible. It's still alive!





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post by Steed   |  | 
Re: Mysterious radio facility way outside Beijing
<Reply # 1 on 7/20/2020 4:57 AM >

Now there's a country it would be very dangerous to explore in. If tensions flare up between China and your own country and they go looking for hostages to accuse of espionage, a foreign urban explorer there would be an easy target.


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post by Greg   |  | 
Re: Mysterious radio facility way outside Beijing
<Reply # 2 on 10/9/2020 1:15 PM >

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post by Whyshy    |  | 
Re: Mysterious radio facility way outside Beijing
<Reply # 3 on 10/27/2020 1:14 PM >

Posted by Steed
Now there's a country it would be very dangerous to explore in. If tensions flare up between China and your own country and they go looking for hostages to accuse of espionage, a foreign urban explorer there would be an easy target.


So true poor Canadians are getting stuck over there! Japan has better sites anyway!


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post by Steed   |  | 
Re: Mysterious radio facility way outside Beijing
<Reply # 4 on 10/27/2020 6:12 PM >

Posted by Whyshy


So true poor Canadians are getting stuck over there! Japan has better sites anyway!


One of them is a friend of mine, and I've gone exploring with him. Japan has better sites, but Korea has better, more relaxed police.


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post by /-/ooligan   |  | 
Re: Mysterious radio facility way outside Beijing
<Reply # 5 on 10/29/2020 3:51 AM >

The tower appears to be a fairly heavy-duty, standard type to support VHF/UHF land mobile radio systems, and likely at one time some microwave links.

Further examination of the ground structures related to it may have given more clue, but I certainly understand the reluctance to not push too hard!

Could have been a regional police or military compound/barracks, could even be an underground bunker (though the tower wasn't designed to survive nuclear strikes).

It's possible that at one time, it was a manned communications relay site, but over the years, became less important/had more radio links replaces by satellite or underground cable/fiber networks, and thus the few remaining radio circuits don't require on-site service technicians or they allow some hermit to live there if he promises to chase snoopers off.

If you had some fairly simple radio equipment -- which you probably would NOT want to be caught with in PRC though they have no problem manufacturing the crap there & exporting it -- you would have been able to determine what if any VHF/UHF signals were being transmitted from the site.


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post by Robin   |  | 
Re: Mysterious radio facility way outside Beijing
<Reply # 6 on 11/1/2020 3:56 AM >

Posted by Steed
Now there's a country it would be very dangerous to explore in. If tensions flare up between China and your own country and they go looking for hostages to accuse of espionage, a foreign urban explorer there would be an easy target.


As for "espionage" that's part of the truth. Being a foreigner in China, the safest way to explore is definitely with some local explorers. The government doesn't really care about what you're exploring, what they care about whether you're a kind of "spy" to do some illegal things especially in some military locations(still in use)


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post by Steed   |  | 
Re: Mysterious radio facility way outside Beijing
<Reply # 7 on 11/1/2020 4:59 AM >

Posted by Robin


As for "espionage" that's part of the truth. Being a foreigner in China, the safest way to explore is definitely with some local explorers. The government doesn't really care about what you're exploring, what they care about whether you're a kind of "spy" to do some illegal things especially in some military locations(still in use)


Would they ever care that foreigners are taking pictures of "ugly" places and making China look bad? That's a widespread attitutde in Korea, although I don't think anybody's been punished for it.


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post by Reyn   |  | 
Re: Mysterious radio facility way outside Beijing
<Reply # 8 on 8/13/2022 7:51 PM >

Sorry to revive an old thread, but I just logged back on after a couple years away and wanted to type some of my thoughts about UE in China:

You're generally right that UE can be very dangerous in China, especially when it comes to (old) military installations or areas of "national interest".

But like in Japan, under all 'normal' UE circumstances, you can usually just play the dumb foreigner card and get away. I've been caught on rooftops, beyond fences, construction sites, a rubber plant, etc. Every time I just pretend I don't speak Chinese and walk out (or usually get escorted out). In general, the security / police don't want to deal with the paperwork.

Another point: many of the UE locations in China are fairly unsecured. There is a culture here in China that I call the 'cha-bu-duo ethic', which basically means half-assed, jerry-rigged, ignored, or otherwise shoddily done. Almost every rooftop is either A) open, or unlocked in China. I have never had to pick a rooftop door lock.

I can't speak to whether or not Japan has better sites, but China is also ancient and filled with old places -- perhaps more so than Japan. Lots of old and abandoned sites, even full districts of cities, were 'old' only a few years ago, and have since been abandoned in favor of the 'new'. I'll make another post some time of the abandoned house we found in Chongqing last year. China only started modernizing in the 90s, so there are troves of old brutalist buildings built back during Mao's time that are mostly abandoned, now that people have money. In Nanchang, I found a mostly abandoned building, and inside one of the apartments it was like a time capsule from the late 90s / early 2000s, with bold and bright 90s Hong Kong singer posters, old children's toys, dirty floral duvet, old school wood chairs, cassettes, CDs, etc. And as a prime example of the UE sites in China, of course there's the underground city in Beijing (although I've never managed to find an entrance). So I think there's a plethora of old and decaying places yet to find in China, and many are REAL af.

Hope you will consider.


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