died after being attacked in a taxi rank queue |
Posted by splumer Speaking of religions of peace, here's a video of Russian Orthodox church members viciously attacking a pro-gay demonstration in Tblisi: |
Posted by Soldat Why is it that the go to retort to somebody pointing out yet another instance of the widespread Islam motivated violence towards westerners always countered with a cop out deflection of "Well look, these Christians here did bad shit too"? |
Posted by splumer Because the implication is often that one religious group has a greater propensity for violence than another, yet that is not necessarily the case. |
Posted by Soldat See, the thing about that is, you can always find Christians in some corner of the world doing some bad shit because of their religion. Now, with Islam, on a daily basis I can find multiple incidents of horrific religious violence occurring in the Muslim world. I also do not see too many Christians bombing buses in Spain, raping everybody in Norway, or hacking soldiers heads off in the UK. |
Posted by blitz You can find multiple incidents of horrific religious violence huh? Is that because maybe you rely on media influenced by Judeo-Christian values and organizations? I can watch Islamic news, (or, rather, an objective international publication) and read/watch about Christians in Nigeria and Sierra Leonne murdering Jews, Animists, and Muslims on a daily basis for religious purposes. Or I can read about hard line, bat-shit crazy Christian Norweigans who murder Muslims AND Christians and summer camp because they don't want brown people moving to their country. It's all about perspective. Consider stepping outside your own and maybe you'll see you're looking at things from a pretty biased outlook. |
Posted by Soldat Nobody would care that third world Muslims moved to Europe if so many of them did not insist of importing the third world with them. |
Posted by blitz You just proved my point, thanks. "Western" Christians don't commit religious violence as often because they live in a first world nation where they aren't victims of constant political violence, suffering from food shortages, and have access to basic education and healthcare. They don't need to use violence to solve issues because they are institutions in place to resolve issues. These people who are committing violence come from violent places where brutality is the norm, not the exception. As you said yourself, they import the culture they came from --- which is largely rooted in conflict, suffering, and ethnic strife. |
Posted by blitz For every "Islamic-inspired" beheading around the world, fifty Americans kill their own child through neglect or abuse. |
Posted by blitz That second part was an exaggeration. ~1,500 children died in 2005 due to an abuse/neglect related incident (or series of incidents), and approximately 60% of child abuse-related deaths are not reported as such. 2 people were killed by "terrorists" in the USA in the same year, four times as many people died from "rogue vending machines" and 750 times as many children were killed as a result of neglect or abuse. The point I'm trying to get at is, if you're scared by Islamic terrorists then really, you should probably move into in a germ-free bubble. Statistically, your own parents (for example) are WAY more likely to kill you than an Islamic radical. |
Posted by blitz I read examples of Christians committing acts of violence every day, just like you do. People in general need to stop living in a dream world and realize people are fucking violent by nature, and EVERY religion commits acts of violence, yes, even Buddhists. Religion inspires people to do crazy shit, I get it. Stop suggesting Islam is somehow barbaric and third world because some of its crazier adherents commit acts of violence; cause fuck --- Christians, Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, Pagans, Hindus, and members of every major religion that EVER existed have committed a barbaric act of violence in the name of their religion and every major religion will continue to do so. It's human. |
Posted by blitz Islam is experiencing some serious fragmentation due to the internet and other shit that is causing uber-conservative forces to mobilize against technology and globalization. Some are freaking out and think radicalism and "jihad" is somehow the answer, I get how that's fucked up, and yes, it can lead to some stupid people doing crazy shit --- but a few crazy people doing stupid shit doesn't define a religion these days. Just how some crazy fucked up Catholic priests touching little boy dongs doesn't define Christianity as a religion of little-boy butt-fuckers. boys. |
Posted by Soldat EDIT: I have not problem with Islam at its principals. I have no problem with Muslims and most people who practice Islam. I am trying to point at that violent and radical Islam is not some super rare occurrence. |
Posted by Soldat Islam is the religion of choice for organized violence across the world. |
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