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Infiltration Forums > Rookie Forum > Times caught by the police as a rookie UE(Viewed 61653 times)
Asher0719 location:
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Re: Times caught by the police as a rookie UE
<Reply # 140 on 1/30/2012 6:05 AM >
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I've never been caught even though I've been exploring since I was a kid (even if I'm a noob to the forums). I was in the caves of an abandoned brewery once and my friend had just walked out to the road when the sheriff drove by, luckily he couldn't see me and my friend looked like she was on a hike. Another time I had just left an old train depot and an officer drove by, luckily I looked innocent...enough. I'll probly get caught now, just cause I posted this *knocks on wood*.



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Re: Times caught by the police as a rookie UE
<Reply # 141 on 1/30/2012 6:09 AM >
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^^ Or cuz you don't look "innocent enough" anymore. Now you look like a legal-aged troublemaker.

What does "caves of a brewery" mean?



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Re: Times caught by the police as a rookie UE
<Reply # 142 on 1/30/2012 3:13 PM >
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I've never been caught by the police, but have had encounters with property owners.

As a rule, I avoid anywhere with a known security presence, travel alone or with one other person and always have a plausible cover for what I'm doing (like a walking stick in a rural locations "I'm hiking"). In a city, don't enter the first time you visit a site. Plan your entry before hand, get a feel for what normal activity (if any) in the area is and act accordingly.

Geocaching is also a very useful cover, just make sure you're carrying a gps. If there aren't any known geocaches near where you're exploring, drop a small one the first time you head to the site, just outside of a the private area. This gives you a reasonable excuse for being there. Here in northern New England I will generally bring a ham radio with me if I'm near an established trail near a mountain, the plausible excuse being a low-power DX excursion.

Sometimes you just have to trust your gut and if you've got a a bad feeling about the situation, walk away and try another day. If you do encounter someone, be confident and project that you're doing nothing wrong.



L'Ali location:
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Re: Times caught by the police as a rookie UE
<Reply # 143 on 1/31/2012 2:59 PM >
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Fire Marshall, yes. Some random flattery worked wonders with that guy . He had already called the cops, but Constable Doogie Howser came as we were far off the property by then and gave us a good talking to. It's a challenge to be reprimanded by someone that looks 10 years your junior, even if they have a gun. Security, yes, x2, one of which called the cops. Angry farmers, angrier farmers, and then high pitched frenzied screaming angry farmers, yes! LOL

(edited for spelling)


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Re: Times caught by the police as a rookie UE
<Reply # 144 on 1/31/2012 6:05 PM >
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Angry farms, angrier farmers, and then high pitched frenzied screaming angry farmers, yes! LOL


Did you try to urbex their farmhouse while they were sitting down for lunch or what?



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Re: Times caught by the police as a rookie UE
<Reply # 145 on 1/31/2012 6:53 PM >
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Did you try to urbex their farmhouse while they were sitting down for lunch or what?


Almost... No actually the houses were abandoned but the barns/field were still being used and we happened to pick the wrong time to visit.



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Re: Times caught by the police as a rookie UE
<Reply # 146 on 2/1/2012 5:13 AM >
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Been twice.. both recently... (since the new year.) Met the officer while covering the new years celebration. He went to school with my business partner. Both times - it was he who caught me...

Both times: Come on, you know you're not supposed to be doing this!

Me: I know... I can't help myself.

"Don't do it again."

I wonder when he'll finally ticket me.



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Re: Times caught by the police as a rookie UE
<Reply # 147 on 2/9/2012 1:11 PM >
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Security has tried to follow me, and they've driven back and forth past me in various places, but never been talked to. No police issues ever. Set a few alarms off, but got out safely.



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<Reply # 148 on 9/20/2012 6:27 PM >
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*Disclaimer - the rhetorical tactic found below can be difficult to pull off if you are not versed in how it is applied. Being well spoken or quick witted helps. However, it can backfire if not performed with certain level of eloquence. I do not claim to have this ability.
Also, I have never used the ghost hunting excuse. Try at your won risk. *

Some police officers could care less what you are up to. These types are usually more aggressive, hot tempered, or excitable. Words like "buddy" or "got ya" are often overheard by them as well. It won't matter if you're up to no good, or simply exploring. If they can hang something on you they will-giving themselves a warm fuzzy feeling of accomplishment.
When dealing with officers of this ilk you may want to try a rhetorical tactic known as Rhetorical Transcendence. Oppose the content of the argument being put forward. Take the fact that you broke the law out of the equation and lead them away from the reason they stopped you. Steer the conversation away from words/phrases like "trespassing", "breaking and entering", "curiosity got he best of me", etc. Consider the legal issue at hand a small circle. Simply draw a larger circle around this small circle. This larger circle dwarfs the initial argument. Enable the newly formed argument to take precedence.
More often than not a good approach is that of the larger circle acting as the image of your character. Not what you have done, but who you are. If this officer has even the slightest forgiving bone in his body, your character is the determining factor. If you can alter their perception of you, from trespasser to person, you will have a much greater chance of allowing the officer the condescendingly warm fuzzy feeling of letting some poor sap off the hook.
A level of believable absurdity may also be what is needed. Lighten the mood. Pretend to be a Ghost Chaser. Carry a book on paranormal activity, a cheap EMF meter, a small log book, and have a basic understanding of ghost hunting. This excuse and the following conversation-a conversation that you should ensure take place-may contain just the right amount of absurdity that the officer might laugh the entire situation off and move on.




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Re: Times caught by the police as a rookie UE
<Reply # 149 on 9/21/2012 3:51 AM >
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Posted by wxhara
A level of believable absurdity may also be what is needed. Lighten the mood. Pretend to be a Ghost Chaser. Carry a book on paranormal activity, a cheap EMF meter, a small log book, and have a basic understanding of ghost hunting. This excuse and the following conversation-a conversation that you should ensure take place-may contain just the right amount of absurdity that the officer might laugh the entire situation off and move on.



Ha. I like this idea a lot. Although I'm worried that if I prepare for this act in this way I might start trying to get caught just to see how the situation plays out.



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Re: Times caught by the police as a rookie UE
<Reply # 150 on 9/22/2012 9:08 AM >
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I dress like a no-good street punk so when I get caught I honestly just say I was looking for somewhere to drink or sleep. It honestly works way better than saying "oh I'm an urban explorer, blah blah photos blah blah". I used to say that and it makes you sound a lot more suspicious and weird than some bored guy looking for somewhere to get wasted. Every time I've used it the cops have just told me to take a hike since they deal with these types of people every day and can't be bothered doing the paper work.

Unfortunately this will backfire majorly if they do decide to search me anyway and don't find drinks, or decide to take me to a homeless shelter. So far, so good.


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Buffalonian location:
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Re: Times caught by the police as a rookie UE
<Reply # 151 on 9/22/2012 11:04 AM >
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Re: Times caught by the police as a rookie UE
<Reply # 152 on 9/23/2012 2:10 AM >
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When I was in high school I was exploring an abandoned barn. One of my less than smart friends found a golf club and started smashing beer bottles. (I was in the loft of the barn at the time, he was in a chicken coop. I was about to yell at my friend for the noise when I heard someone else yelling at us to leave. Long story short the cops chased us through the woods and the only reason we got caught was my friend went to his house to go pee. (this could have been avoided if he just went in the bushes) I got a good chewing out and my info taken down. Then again I think the cops had better things to do than bust a 14 year old for poking around an old barn.



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Re: Times caught by the police as a rookie UE
<Reply # 153 on 9/23/2012 9:43 AM >
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Never been caught, had a security guard on a golf cart roll like 5 - 10 feet past me. I think headlight was giving him tunnel vision or something, because I wasn't nearly as concealed as I wanted to be since he surprised me when rounding a nearby blind corner. Those golf carts are quiet.



Tenebrae location:
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Re: Times caught by the police as a rookie UE
<Reply # 154 on 9/25/2012 3:47 PM >
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I've never been caught, but I don't have any illusions about being awesome: my explorations over the years have been sporadic and lightweight (relative to some on this forum).
The only time I was confronted was years ago by campus security: sitting in a window well at night talking with a friend I did some exploring with, we were harassed at great length. The irony was that we weren't exploring; just having an intense conversation in a socially unusual (and somewhat private) location.



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Re: Times caught by the police as a rookie UE
<Reply # 155 on 9/25/2012 5:48 PM >
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I was almost caught in a factory along with a few people who had only gone exploring once or twice. We were on the top floor of a factory when police spotlights lit up the windows and the cops circled the building. When the lights and sounds went away we waited half an hour just be safe. Sometimes its better just to wait it out and be quiet.



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Re: Times caught by the police as a rookie UE
<Reply # 156 on 9/30/2012 4:35 AM >
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I've been caught by police twice. Both in abandoned hospitals. Oncwhen heading to the car. Some people called them for "suspicious activity " but no problems.

Another time I was escorted out of the building because I tripped a silent alarm opening an unlocked door.

It really sucked being escorted out. But. The security company didn't fine us. Just watch out for security contacts and measures entering a building with power. Other wise go through a window.



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Re: Times caught by the police as a rookie UE
<Reply # 157 on 10/15/2012 2:49 PM >
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only real problem we've had was dealing with the state police at a site. locals and private security are usually nice and, if you're generally honest (always avoid responding to questions of "trespassing/etc" with other statements - "Didn't you see the no trespassing signs?" "Ah, We were just out for a walk."), they're usually send you out with a warning or at most a trespassing violation. its par for the course. its going to cost a couple of bucks and you're going to end up meeting owners, security, care takers, or the police at least once if you're serious about this. just make sure the site is worth it. had a major annoyance last year with ridiculous state troopers trying to pull every misdemeanor and felony charge they could make up because they were immediately hot headed and had their own opinion of why we were there that we were not going to be able to convince them otherwise. though the original charges were ridiculous and potentially scary it was talked down to a trespass violation.

otherwise we've had amazing conversations with locals and security before we were asked to simply be on our way. one guard at a large asylum in long island basically told us how to get into most of the buildings in a way where he would not have to see us, the buildings were stable, and had the most photographic opportunities.



WalkingFumble location:
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Re: Times caught by the police as a rookie UE
<Reply # 158 on 10/22/2012 3:24 AM >
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Got ran off from a motel on the Chesapeake Bay by the police (he was really cool about just letting us walk, thanks mr police dude). Then a couple of hours later, almost went face first into a concrete slab from 8-10 feet up trying to scale down a coastal artillery battery. Today was a good day.



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N1Hawk location:
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Re: Times caught by the police as a rookie UE
<Reply # 159 on 9/9/2013 4:28 PM >
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I have been caught by a security guard only once coming out of a local old hotel. Never by Police. The guard let me go because the place was demolished the next day anyhow.



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