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Posted by gr8fzy1
Can this kind of stuff be done with Photoshop Elements?
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Someone recently told me Elements doesn't have layer masks...if thats true then you can use this method. There are ways to do it without layer masks but....ehhh...not as good.
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Posted by desmet
Someone recently told me Elements doesn't have layer masks...if thats true then you can use this method. There are ways to do it without layer masks but....ehhh...not as good.
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Man, I'll have to check then...and don't you mean 'then you CAN'T use this method.'? I was alway's afraid that something like this might happen...I find a Photoshop tutorial that I can actually understand, and my version of Photoshop might be incompatible...Really great tutorial though, I brought it home and actually cried! That's how relieved I was to see that you tut' was readable.
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Posted by gr8fzy1
Man, I'll have to check then...and don't you mean 'then you CAN'T use this method.'? I was alway's afraid that something like this might happen...I find a Photoshop tutorial that I can actually understand, and my version of Photoshop might be incompatible...Really great tutorial though, I brought it home and actually cried! That's how relieved I was to see that you tut' was readable.
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Yea, I meant "can't" sorry! 
Yea, I always thought elements was somewhat of a suspect product. Layer masks are pretty key!
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Posted by desmet
Yea, I meant "can't" sorry!
Yea, I always thought elements was somewhat of a suspect product. Layer masks are pretty key!
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Well, Elements can do something called a "Fill Layer", but I'm not very savvy with all these image editing programs. I just recently got GIMP2, will that work with this tutorial?
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Great tutorial !!
I have searched for "technique" and "tutorial" in the UE Photography forum, but haven't found much.
Can anyone point out some threads that have good info to learn from?
BTW, why don't people mention the ISO, shutter speed, aperture, lenses used when posting photos?
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Nice tutorial Desmet. You have inspired me to put a few together. I have tons of simple, yet very useful techniques on image enhancement, control, etc., that I use for my students. Photoshop TV is also a great resource. Free podcasts!
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I've been experimenting with this lately, but my biggest problem is that the images never align perfectly. No matter how steady the camera is, the two photos are always off by a fraction of a degree and won't align perfectly in Photoshop. Is there a way to deal with this after the pictures have been taken?
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Posted by racetraitor
I've been experimenting with this lately, but my biggest problem is that the images never align perfectly. No matter how steady the camera is, the two photos are always off by a fraction of a degree and won't align perfectly in Photoshop. Is there a way to deal with this after the pictures have been taken?
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Hmm...are you shooting off a tripod? Is the tripod beefy enough for the weight of your camera? Are you using a cable release to release the shutter?
I've never really had image alignment problems, but then I spent a small fortune on a tripod and am ridiculously meticulous when shooting these (I use mirror lockup and the whole deal to minimize any movement at all of the camera).
You could use warp or possibly even...is there an automated alignment tool like this in photoshop? I feel like I saw a mention of being able to do it but I think I'm making that up. My advice would be to figure out what's going wrong with the camera though. My shots are dead-balls on, and I have had to shoot 8 or 10 images to get good exposures before. In one of my noho pics I have 5 images blended together, and alignment wasn't a problem.
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I've gotten a little better at photoshop and figured how how to align the pictures better. You can see a good example of this, applied slightly differently, in my Fortune Tellers thread. I set one layer's opacity at 50% and try to match it with the one underneath. Once they line up you can really easily tell. Another thing I had trouble with was rotating the pictures so they line up, but using "transform" that works perfectly.
I don't use a tripod. They seem too time-consuming to me, although I'll have to give in soon. If I were using a tripod, I think just the act of adjusting the shutter speed would move the camera minutely so the images wouldn't perfectly align.
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Posted by racetraitor
I've gotten a little better at photoshop and figured how how to align the pictures better. You can see a good example of this, applied slightly differently, in my Fortune Tellers thread. I set one layer's opacity at 50% and try to match it with the one underneath. Once they line up you can really easily tell. Another thing I had trouble with was rotating the pictures so they line up, but using "transform" that works perfectly.
I don't use a tripod. They seem too time-consuming to me, although I'll have to give in soon. If I were using a tripod, I think just the act of adjusting the shutter speed would move the camera minutely so the images wouldn't perfectly align.
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Aha! Yes, not using a tripod will greatly complicate this process. Shooting off a tripod doesn't bother me at all, maybe because i did so much night shooting back in the day, but I hear ya...a lot of people don't like it.
I would definitely consider busting out the tripod for this. It will make blending the images infinitely easier. I have never had an issue with adjusting the shutter speed throwing the alignment off...just be careful and try not to bump the camera when you do it. I've blended about 5 shots before with no alignment issues whatsoever. I can't really think of a time where I've ever had to move or warp the images shooting off a tripod.
The one thing that can be tricky is that sometimes (especially with divided light windows) the darker shot will show areas that are just completely invisible in the brighter shot, and that can be weird to try and blend. Sometimes it seems off, even though it isn't.
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Well, I tried a little something in Elements...care to tell me how it came out?
(Note: I didn't use a tripod, so I was surprised how equally positioned the shots were!)
I selected the entire sky in this photo...
Then copied this photo onto another layer and selected the entire shot...
Then clicked on "Paste into Selection" and adjusted the Opacity to 30% to get this...
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I thought I'd share this attempt I just put together. The underside of the roof needed a longer exposure, and I think this turned out pretty good.
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Posted by racetraitor
I thought I'd share this attempt I just put together. The underside of the roof needed a longer exposure, and I think this turned out pretty good.
http://www.daehanm...ntopimatgol/86.JPG
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Not bad, the only thing I see as a problem area is right under the overhang, the transition does not look natural.
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Posted by Explorer_H
Not bad, the only thing I see as a problem area is right under the overhang, the transition does not look natural.
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I'm not entirely sure what you're looking at. Do you mean where the grey roof tiles meet the wooden support beams? If so, I'll have to put the blame on Korean architecture.
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Wow good job both of you guys!!
Racetraitor...the one thing I might do is just darken the part under the overhang a TOUCH or maybe just bump the contrast a bit. Doing so might lose the detail on the wood you're looking for though...just an idea. Looks pretty darn natural to me...good job.
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Thanks Desmet. I'm experimenting as much as I can, and I have a camera now that can take up to 30 exposures...so I'll have a lot of stuff to work on.
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I'm just curious if anyone else is/has played with "enfuse"?
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Posted by Geo
I'm just curious if anyone else is/has played with "enfuse"?
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Interesting! Had never heard of it...I'll have to check it out...the samples look intriguing.
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Desmet,
The "pano" clique is slightly ahead of the curve with things like this, due to the exposure differences encountered shooting panos. I have played with enfuse and I really like the results.
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ps. enfuse is available as a plug-in for lightroom
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