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The news broke earlier this morning about OceanGate losing communication with one of their Titanic exploration submarines. Media says 5 people are onboard with a 96hr supply of Oxygen which at this point in time is now closer to 70hrs or so. USCG is sending help via aircraft and vessels. I've been reading that the one billionaire on board the Sub probably has private companies enlisted with their own recovery craft, paid for by the estate...
Personally, I think the submersible imploded. Titanic added a few more to her body count
https://www.foxnew...search-is-underway
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Damn what a way to go...i've read history articles about military subs going missing at sea....creeps me out picturing it all.
Thoughts and prayers to the families involved.
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If you die with a billionaire, they probably clone you back to life too.
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The latest theory is that the sub became “entangled” and could be caught either inside or outside the Titanic herself.
Crazy spooky.
Also the interior temp of the sub could be near freezing temps.
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" OceanGate CEO Stockton Rush confirmed to be among the five people onboard that are now missing"
This seems to be the definite end to this company and their exploring submersibles.
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$250k a ticket and it's using the same controller I play my cat simulator game with.
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Posted by bandi
$250k a ticket and it's using the same controller I play my cat simulator game with.
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MadKatz seal of quality
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Posted by mrpoke
MadKatz seal of quality
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Dude its basically MadKatz, its like a ps3 wireless logitech controller or somehting lol. It had bad reviews on amazon for the poor connection
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Tomorrow is their expected last full day of oxygen. I think they're gone by now, given all the variables we've seen so far. Rescueme had a good point about the sub being near to freezing temperatures at that depth.
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Apparently there was also a shipwreck in Greek waters that may have left hundreds dead. I wonder how many of them were billionaires.
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Hopefully there is a black box recorder so we can "hear" humanity at its best also
"Cunts"
David Scott-Beddard, the CEO of Titanic exhibition company White Star Memories Ltd, told CNN that the incident has “without a doubt” impacted opportunities to visit and study the wreckage. He said:
The chances of any future research being carried out on the wreck of Titanic is extremely slim. Probably not in my lifetime.
The Titanic wreck is “one of those unreachable, unattainable things for most of us”, he said.
She sits majestically on the sea bed; (it’s) incredibly rare for a ship that sunk to be sitting upright.
Of course not one mention of the crew at all. Its too bad I couldn't get what I wanted and this and only this is why we are doomed ...
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Posted by Steed
Apparently there was also a shipwreck in Greek waters that may have left hundreds dead. I wonder how many of them were billionaires.
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This is one of the issues I've had with certain areas of the media/twatter/discourse over the last day or so.
It is very possible for people to care about and be empathetic about the plight of two different groups of people - or anything - at once. But the two incidents are not comparable for a couple of distinct reasons.
Whilst the ship sinking in the Med was undoubtedly an immense tragedy, it was a recovery mission after the fact rather than a rescue mission, as the reason the Titan submarine has been constantly in the news cycle is because it was an evolving rescue effort with a chance everyone might - by some miracle - emerge alive. The story has evolved and changed every day which has kept people interested in hearing about it. Nobody can deny it's an unusual set of circumstances and a very unusual incident, which breeds curiosity.
The Chilean mine collapse rescue, and the Thai cave rescue, all involved people far poorer than you or I, and both captivated the world because there was a chance that the people could make it out, and both ultimately had happy endings for those trapped, meaning there was a real chance a similar thing could happen here.
In that respect, their wealth has absolutely nothing to do with it. Both the Med boat sinking and the sub disappearing are human tragedies, involving real people, who have left behind real families who are all going to be feeling the same sort of grief. If I had billions in the bank damn right I'd go on crazy adventures just because I can, it's human nature to want to explore and see things and experience new stuff. Just because the people involved are wealthy doesn't make them any less human, the way some people are talking about them it's as if they have totally dehumanised them simply because they are rich, so apparently none of us should care, which is a terrible attitude to take.
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"Catastrophic implosion". They have found the nose and tail cones, and a debris field a distance from the bow of the Titanic.
https://www.nbcnew...-updates-rcna90538
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Posted by mookster
This is one of the issues I've had with certain areas of the media/twatter/discourse over the last day or so.
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Well said.
There's also another facet of discourse about how unreasonable an idea it was to pay for a ride on this mission with a janky submersible, a lot of it fixated on the Logitech game controller as a microcosm of the jankiness. While ultimately the nature of the tragedy confirmed that the submersible indeed wasn't up-to-par... looking-in from the outside as people who wouldn't do it anyways and choosing to cast the participants as dilletantes who had nothing better to do with their time/money and so their fatal folly could be laughed-at... is being a bad human being.
People do lots of things that might look unreasonable in terms of risk/reward from a lay and disinterested perspective. That equation obviously changes when deep personal passion is involved. Sure, the rich-dilletante-brush is possibly true for at least some of the victims. But there's every indication to believe that at least some of them were deeply interested/invested/committed to ocean exploration. And a fateful miscalculation in the pursuit of a passion is more of a tragedy than a folly.
Of course, this isn't something that needs to be said in this or other adventuring communities.
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Cameron said submersible diving is a “mature art” and noted many people in the deep submergence engineering community wrote letters to OceanGate Expeditions, the company behind the mission, pleading that what the company was doing was “too experimental to carry passengers.”
Nothing wrong with taking heed and cant cure stupid
Kabbalah is an undramatic tradition that requires great patience and stability. One of the reasons for this tempo is that everyone has to mature his potential gradually and thoroughly at his natural pace. In this way his life's work unfolds at the right moment in his own and the cosmos's time.
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The Logitech controller topic is a distraction talking piece from the media and redditors. That controller has nothing to do with the hull being compromised and imploding. I'm not defending Logitech but I will tell you that I use that same exact controller in guiding a robot with a camera attached to it to do under ground inspections... the technology actually works very well and is user friendly which is what Stockton was hoping for with his "mission specialists" experiences
anyways....
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And in case anyone wanted to see their YT channel and videos before any of it gets deleted or pulled here it is:
https://www.youtub...Expeditions/videos
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The Navy might’ve detected the implosion days ago, shared the acoustic detection with the incident commander at about that time, but the search continued because it wasn’t definitive and they decided that they had to exhaust the possibilities.
https://www.washin...ible-navy-sensors/
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A thought/idea just came to me while brushing my teeth
Could any of the employees who were monitoring from the Mothership be held criminally liable in court for acting complicit in the dive? Assuming some of the employees from OceanGate were in on the same knowledge that Stockton had regarding the lack of safety, wouldn't they be liable in the deaths of their clients?
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Posted by RescueMe1060
A thought/idea just came to me while brushing my teeth
Could any of the employees who were monitoring from the Mothership be held criminally liable in court for acting complicit in the dive? Assuming some of the employees from OceanGate were in on the same knowledge that Stockton had regarding the lack of safety, wouldn't they be liable in the deaths of their clients?
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who knows maybe , there will definitely be lawsuits
Kabbalah is an undramatic tradition that requires great patience and stability. One of the reasons for this tempo is that everyone has to mature his potential gradually and thoroughly at his natural pace. In this way his life's work unfolds at the right moment in his own and the cosmos's time.
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