Hey y’all. First time posting. Is anyone interested in going out to George Air Force base? I went out there for my second time last weekend and there is so much to explore.
its a cool explore but the asbestos in the hospital and vacant houses aren't worth it in my opinion, if you can explore the outer buildings surrounding the hospital/ neighborhood
Posted by Explorer unkown its a cool explore but the asbestos in the hospital and vacant houses aren't worth it in my opinion, if you can explore the outer buildings surrounding the hospital/ neighborhood
To each, their own...
Not trying to downplay the concern for asbestos, however I think if you do some research on it, it may change your philosophy at-least a little.
For those of you who've been to George or not yet been to George but are planning on it (& caveat: it's been about 8 years since I last did), if you do a careful & thorough search, you will hopefully discover some absolutely fascinating, important facilities hidden-away in what from the outside & initial interior rooms, looks to be another mundane, trashed old structure that's not worthy of your time.
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Posted by Kas975 Hey y’all. First time posting. Is anyone interested in going out to George Air Force base? I went out there for my second time last weekend and there is so much to explore.
If I am down that way, yes, very much so
Honestly I would make a day trip out on a cheap flight
Not trying to downplay the concern for asbestos, however I think if you do some research on it, it may change your philosophy at-least a little.
For those of you who've been to George or not yet been to George but are planning on it (& caveat: it's been about 8 years since I last did), if you do a careful & thorough search, you will hopefully discover some absolutely fascinating, important facilities hidden-away in what from the outside & initial interior rooms, looks to be another mundane, trashed old structure that's not worthy of your time.
I used to do asbestos removal. So it's funny to read a lot of the posts about asbestos on this site. (not in this thread, but some people just talk a BIG pile of nonsense about asbestos, usually the ones most vociferous on what you're supposed to wear/do) For one, unless you're doing a smoke tent test, you're not really "safe" by OSHA/state/etc standards no matter what respirator you're using.
Does it matter? Who knows. You've probably already breathed in MORE asbestos than a "leaky" respirator just by being in that old shopping mall or Sears or school over the years.
For the most part, as long as it's in place, it's fine. A lot of what we did was just to encapsulate it. Unless you're tearing things down, it was always considered better to just entomb it. (future projects just have to deal with it then)
Sometimes the job was as simple as removing 2-3' of insulation when an (otherwise) exposed pipe had to be replaced or worked on. For example a copper pipe that went from a water heater into a wall. But that kind of thing was mostly industrial although we did do houses now and then.
But if you've ever seen it on an active boiler/etc, you'd know why it was so widespread. The shit works! You would come across pipes just wrapped in a few sheets impregnated paper that were room temperature. But if you even just brushed the bare metal, you'd get an instant 2nd degree burn if not worse.
For the most part outside of government buildings, it was pretty much only people who knew/thought they had asbestos and could afford to "properly" remove it. I'm sure there's tons that has been ripped out by people who didn't care, or were DIYers or didn't know.
You can mitigate it getting into the air by simply spraying the insulation with water. In fact one of the encapsulates we used just looked like watered-down milk. You can never get ALL of it, so after a job we'd just spray this stuff all over and once it was dry it and we took an air sample, the job was considered done.
We did a job in a boiler room at San Francisco State. i don't remember what building...just some multi-story building near the Student U. We did our job in the little room which only took about an hour. Meanwhile we could see it flaking off the ceiling tiles in the hallway outside the room... covering the window sills and probably all over the floor and students too.
I just did it as a college summer job. Most of the employees were convicted felons and I have to say they were always a crack up. Unique perspective on things and some wild-ass tattoos. Most of them also had no driver's license anymore. The company didn't really care how they got to work, for the most part you'd ride together in trucks to job sites, but to transport the waste, you had to of course have a valid DL and the (not that intensive) training.
There were actually a lot of ambush inspections by the state. We had to leave our ID + certif on the entrance to the job site and they would come by and just look at those and leave--unless we were outside and then they'd would sometimes check to see who was driving.
By now I'm sure there are a lot more regulations. It was a shitty job sometimes, like being in a full bunny suit and respirator and working under a floor where it was 110 degrees. But not terrible over all. I still regret the one time we were working on an old military warehouse close enough to the Golden Gate bridge to say it was 'under' it. (Marin side) It was a perfect photo op, be in the hazmat suit and respirator posing with the GG bridge in back. But I didn't want to get in trouble because it was just me and a foreman.
"VICTORVILLE, CALIFORNIA - A wind whipped fire at an abandoned Air Force Base in Victorville destroyed four apartment complexes Sunday afternoon. The fire was reported at 2:27 pm at the former George Air Force Base. Arriving units reported two abandoned apartment complexes completely involved with winds sending fire embers toward additional apartment complexes. Sustained winds between 20-30 mph were reported on scene. A second alarm was called and units from Apple Valley, San Bernardino County, Cal Fire, and Barstow responded. Numerous spot fires were reported and a total of four apartment complexes received heavy damage. The base closed in the 1990's and has become a lure to the area's homeless population. The cause of the fire is under investigation. (Location: North Carolina Avenue & Montana Street, Victorville)"
A news release describes a fire that occurred at an abandoned Air Force base in Victorville, California. The fire destroyed four apartment complexes at the former George Air Force Base. The fire occurred during windy conditions, with wind speeds of 20-30 mph. It was no longer a driver's license issue there, however, many quickly scannable fake id helped because they had to travel to another state. Numerous fire departments, including Apple Valley, San Bernardino County, Cal Fire and Barstow, arrived on the scene to fight the fire and prevent it from spreading.
Posted by yisox The news report describes a fire that occurred at an abandoned Air Force Base in Victorville, California. The fire destroyed four apartment complexes on the former George Air Force Base. The incident occurred on a windy afternoon, with sustained winds between 20-30 mph. Multiple fire units, including those from Apple Valley, San Bernardino County, Cal Fire, and Barstow, responded to the scene to combat the fire and prevent its spread.
Drove through George a few weeks ago and was surprised on the amount of structures still available to visit. Tons of bums and druggies though. There's a shelter or rehab occupying the sports center. The overall condition of most of the buildings is pretty bad, but it's still worth a day's outing. Would like to hit the ground with a few of you over the winter months.
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