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Infiltration Forums > UE Main > how to explore more as a teen?(Viewed 1472 times)
W0rmw00d location:
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how to explore more as a teen?
< on 4/14/2022 7:16 PM >
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Hey all! So I, and a few of my friends who are also interested in urbex, am pretty young compared to most of the folks on here. And that's fine and great, but we don't have the same free time a lot of adults do (not to mention the money, resources, and legal abilities).
Any tips for younger explorers trying to visit more abandoned places when we have to balance homework and part-time jobs? (Most of us also don't have cars and the gas here is CRAZY so that adds more limits oof)

Thank you! Any and all suggestions are welcome.



Natchraz location:
Otherworld
 
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Re: how to explore more as a teen?
<Reply # 1 on 4/15/2022 1:37 AM >
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I’m 17. A bike will solve your gas issue among some other things. Park it anywhere, hide it anywhere, be able to escape from anyone fast etc.

Do as much as you can before you’re 18. Another side note- don’t limit yourself to just abandoned buildings. Hit anything and everything.


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Re: how to explore more as a teen?
<Reply # 2 on 4/15/2022 12:06 PM >
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Hate to break it to ya but there’s some bad news regarding that free time issue. It only gets worse as you get older. Make the time now because you’ll have even less in the future. Pretty soon you’ll be balancing a full-time job and all that other stuff. If you make time and devote yourself to what you like to do now, you may be able to make a career of it later. Part time jobs will always be around. Your youth won’t be.



W0rmw00d location:
Near Chicago- for now :)
 
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Re: how to explore more as a teen?
<Reply # 3 on 4/15/2022 1:18 PM >
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haha, im a little late on the "do everything before 18" stuff. already got there!
but thank you for the advice. ill try to find some more places within biking distance, and hopefully this summer leads to lots of exploring!



mookster location:
Oxford, UK
 
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Re: how to explore more as a teen?
<Reply # 4 on 4/15/2022 5:16 PM >
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Enjoy your youthful exploits while they last is all I'll say, make the most of it - there are so many places I wish I could have seen back when I just started at 18/19 but didn't.



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Re: how to explore more as a teen?
<Reply # 5 on 4/17/2022 7:23 PM >
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Posted by mookster
Enjoy your youthful exploits while they last is all I'll say, make the most of it - there are so many places I wish I could have seen back when I just started at 18/19 but didn't.


I can second making the most of your time exploring around age 18/19. I would have liked to have seen more places back then which are now demolished, which at age 28 is ten years later for me. So keep your eyes open when driving around and look on google maps at cities you never thought you'd have an interest in or seem far away. You just might find a location that really surprises you.

I can remember seeing this one abandoned house off the freeway back then and biking the 17 miles one way to it. Its actually the house in my avatar. I'm glad I did because it kicked off my solo exploring career, was great exercise, and a lot less hassle than discretely parking. Biking is still my preferred mode of transportation for exploring.


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DudeManDeuce location:
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Re: how to explore more as a teen?
<Reply # 6 on 4/17/2022 11:32 PM >
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Posted by Natchraz
I’m 17. A bike will solve your gas issue among some other things. Park it anywhere, hide it anywhere, be able to escape from anyone fast etc.



I second using a bike. You can really cover a lot of distance and can go places a car can't, great for scouting. Go down some rough trails or look for places that don't seem to have an entrance. Exploring can really pay off.



Radio2600 location:
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Re: how to explore more as a teen?
<Reply # 7 on 4/18/2022 12:02 AM >
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We didn't have the term UE when I was out exploring in elementary school. Oh that was a long time ago.

Limited transportation options will help you develop better scouting capacity.

Look at things that are "out of place".

Big parking lot with grass growing in the cracks. You won't see that at a Walmart, but you'd probably see that at an abandoned factory.

Part-time work is good. Entrepreneurship is better. Look for opportunities. Even if those opportunities wouldn't make an adult-size living, picking up $50 here and there is always a good thing. I used to collect discarded pallets with a wagon I towed with my bicycle and sell them to a trucking company.





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Furious D location:
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Re: how to explore more as a teen?
<Reply # 8 on 6/7/2022 8:26 PM >
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You're in a prime age for Urban Exploration. You are young enough that if you are caught by security, but not breaking stuff or doing drugs, you'll be passed-off as just a bored youngster. Trust me, it gets more awkward having to explain yourself to a land owner when you're wandering around in your mid 30's.

As for getting around, a motorcycle is a great, comparatively cheap alternative to a car. I love exploring on my motorbike because it's easier to hide and it's cheap on gas. A bicycle works well if you're in an urban area.

I really do miss my early 20's, when I used to go out exploring almost every week and would just vanish on a whim on some long adventure. These days, I have a family and a job to balance and I only get out about a quarter of the amount of times I used to. Although, the places I explore are more interesting now because with my work I get around a lot more and can scout a lot easier.



"The time of getting fame for your name on its own is over. Artwork that is only about wanting to be famous will never make you famous. Fame is a by-product of doing something else. You don't go to a restaurant and order a meal because you want to have a shit."
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/-/ooligan location:
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Re: how to explore more as a teen?
<Reply # 9 on 6/13/2022 11:50 PM >
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You're basically asking for life-skills advice (managing your resources -- time, $$, etc.), but the good new3s compared to most young people, is that you're actually asking for it, instead of ASSuming you already know everything you need to know and basically disrespecting anyone older that tries one way or another to steer you or give you advice.

Physically, you're probably entering the age where you can do some stuff that us old dudes can't or won't do. But intellectually (not IQ-wise, but general experience) you're kind of a puppy.

Practice risk-management -- don't do something really stupid, just to try to get a good Instagram photo out of it.

Be truly interested in the history and documentation of an old site (& every old, trashed place still has history...). If you get busted inside a site, or ask permission to explore/document it, you'll get respect and better treatment if you can demonstrate you've done some advance research regarding the place.

Understand that as a teenager, you're going to get some "dumb kid!" slack for some antics, but also at/near many US targets, you're going to stand-out as being suspicious, likely thought of as casing the place out to vandalize/steal/tag it, whereas I (hate to admit it, but just about old enough now to be your grandfather) could walk by or stand in front could stand in front of the same place without gathering any suspicion except from people paid to be suspicious (security/police). I was really lucky in that at a very young age (pre-teen), I realized that no one would really think I was intentionally trespassing or being nefarious if I got caught somewhere, but you loose that and your mere appearance can cause suspicion of your intentions by your mid-teens. I suppose in another decade or two, I'll get the same assumption of complete innocence I did when I was 10, because people will assume I'm a confused old geezer with dementia...

Just because YOU and the UE community label a place as "abandoned," that doesn't mean it's not owned, monitored, has some sort of plans for re-use, etc. If one of your parents got really sick & was in a hospital 200 miles from your home and the rest of your family was staying in near the hospital for a couple weeks, would you be cool with someone seeing the overgrown grass & weeds on your lawn, the piled-up newspapers & mail, no car in the driveway, etc. and strong-arm a side-window open to explore YOUR HOME, just because to them, the place looked abandoned? With all the other things going on in your life at the time, would you be sympathetic & understanding?

I've done some UEs with some cool people, many with lots of skills & experience, but was always amused -- and nervous about -- the ones that wore what I called the UE Uniform -- dark pants, dark shirt/hoodie, dark backpack, often with a professional photographer tripod sticking out from it. Wear something appropriate for the environmental conditions. The UE Uniform stands-out from a mile away, unless you're in Portland or Seattle...

BE careful who you hang-out with/UE a place with. There's safety in numbers, but with numbers of teenage males, there's often an ad-hoc competition to see who is the most fearless, most obnoxious, etc. Such behavior leads to someone getting seriously hurt and/or people getting busted because the teenage testosterone overwhelms good operational practices. If one in your party gets busted with a gun or large knife, stolen property, etc. the police are going to put a bigger effort into catching the rest of you (or your 'friend' who gets busted is likely to rat you out...).

Have a game-plan in-advance for if police/security show up. If they see you & you run and they have to chase you, they're going to get more resources there (dogs, helos with FLIR, etc) & be more determined to catch you (it's simple psychology). If you simply walk out, deliberately making sure they see/hear you & you don't have anything in your hands & you cooperate & make things easy for them, there's a great chance they'll eventually let you go, or just write you a civil infraction. They're so accustomed to people resisting, being rude, etc. that if you're calm, (somewhat) cooperative and polite/respectful, you're basically making them want to let you go, *as long as* there aren't any extenuating circumstances (you don't smell like marijuana, no crowbar in your backpack, no spray paint residue on your hands, no criminal record...). Even if you do have to go to court, they should write on the report that you made no effort to evade them, were cooperative, etc. which then gives extra reason for the prosecuting attorney to let you plea-bargain and the judge to give you a minimal punishment. This doesn't mean to never try to escape & evade detection & detainment, but to be able to quickly determine which option seems best, understanding that if you make it difficult for them to catch you, but they do catch you, their mind will probably be made-up to punish you for the inconvenience you caused them.

When you case-out some old target in some mostly abandoned area, and you think that you're being really sneaky & tactical by parking at some secluded spot 1/4 mile away and then advancing on the target by foot, you have to develop the savvy to know that the great, hidden parking spot you're using is the exactly same one that countless others have used, the police are very familiar with it & if they see your car parked there, they'll figure people are UE'ing that target, or if they have reports that people are UE'ing that target, they'll have a patrol unit hiding in the area of your car, waiting to catch you running to it or leaving the area in a hurry.

Unlike the old days, it's cheap and easy to have overt & covert cameras and alarm systems all over inside & outside a structure. Thanks to long-duration batteries, wifi & 4G/5G LTE, a camera or sensor could be very small, mounted just about anywhere and not need external power or data cables. No matter how long-abandoned the place seems to be or how much graffiti is in it, you may already have been caught on nice, 1080P or even 4K resolution CCTVs, with live feeds going directly to the property owner, security company or police. The owner of the property, even if it's reverted to city/county/state ownership due to unpaid taxes, may not 'waste' $$ on having entrances boarded-up, but may instead spend some $$ on CCTV & alarm systems, including some CCTV camera mounted 200 yards-away but with good optical/digital zoom to catch you going in that entrance.

You get caught, and more & more so these days, the police will try to get either voluntary-consent from you or a search warrant for your house/car, under the logic that they use the fact you were caught inside some structure you didn't have a legal right to be in as probable cause to think you may be a burglar, and that you could be concealing stolen property. They can even go to your work and ask for consent to search your office, locker, etc. and now your boss & co-workers become nervous about you... Sounds Orwellian, but it's a relatively new reality in the USA.

I think most typical UE stuff would just boil down to a civil infraction or misdemeanor trespass, especially in these days of the criminal justice system being overwhelmed with violent cases, but it's real easy for you to have 'bad-luck' and for something pretty basic to get bumped-up to a felony. Could be a property-owner is just really irate and will state you did $1500 damage. It's fairly easy for them, if they're already willing to perjure themselves) to claim the damage wasn't there prior to your visit, and the property owner will likely get the benefit of the doubt from a judge/jury. Also, if the police do damage to the property during their lawful efforts to catch you or your cohorts, that expense is also something included in the damages/repair costs you'll be responsible for & may be involved in whether or not your charges are a felony. You don't want a felony on your record.



So choose your targets wisely, do a cost-benefit analysis & if you choose to hit the target, try to mitigate risks and advance plans for contingencies. I see plenty of unused places I'm curious about & that appear to be easy to UE, but satisfying my curiosity isn't worth the risk of being caught these days, especially knowing how cheap & easy it is to have CCTVs & alarm systems all over. BUT if it's a target type within my area of strong interest, I've often assumed the risk.



/-/ooligan



There are no stupid questions, just stupid people.
roue_libre location:
Tio'tia:ke / Montréal
 
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Re: how to explore more as a teen?
<Reply # 10 on 6/15/2022 9:04 PM >
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Posted by /-/ooligan



I don't know that I can add much /-/ooligan's masterclass, but I'd take his advice to heart.
Think about the risk-to-reward ratio of any sortie, and stack the odds in your favour ahead of time, as much as you can.

There are plenty of real-life stories on this forum; some have fared far better than others, while others still remain stuck in legal limbo for a long time. Check here (https://www.uer.ca...=1&threadid=133655) for a recent example.

Stay safe, clever and aware.




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The best time to explore was [however long] ago; the second best time is now.
– Chinese proverb
Radio2600 location:
On the Road to Wellville
 
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Re: how to explore more as a teen?
<Reply # 11 on 6/17/2022 3:44 AM >
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From my thrilling days of yesteryear.





In order to use your head, you have to go out of your mind.
/-/ooligan location:
Las Vegas area
 
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Re: how to explore more as a teen?
<Reply # 12 on 7/4/2022 2:20 AM >
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Regarding the police -- again, I'm not saying run from them, I'm not saying cooperate with them either, just know the intricate risks/rewards of either & keep updating the tally in your mind as you satisfy your desire to UE.


BUT, if you have a close-encounter with Law Enforcement in the USA:

1. Don't be an asshole -- most of the time, the police can make your life difficult if they want to. It's usually nor 'personal' for them, and on a daily basis, they deal with much worse people than you. They get paid to do a job. They usually have a lot of discretion in what to do with you. If you make it difficult/personal for them, they can usually find ways to cost you a lot of $$, even if no charges ever are filed.

2. It's bad enough to be caught trespassing, but don't make things worse by being caught with something illegal.

3. Have a very good understanding of your rights, and the legalities in your state regarding reasonable suspicion, probable cause, a Terry Stop, etc. The police can try to talk with you & ask all the questions they want. They can ask for ID. However, what you need to try to understand --and can specifically ask them for a yes or no answer-- is whether the facts of the situation allow for the officer to DETAIN you, versus you being free to just keep going about your (legal) business.
Learn to calmly, politely, respectfully, & authoritatively say "Am I being detained, officer, or am I free to go about my business?" and do not engage in any dialog until you get a firm answer to that one simple question. They'll often try to obfuscate, change the subject, etc. to evade answering that extremely important question. Of course, if you're tackled, have a firearm pointed at you, or have handcuffs put on you, etc. then yeah, I think you already know you're being detained. If they don't answer your question but respond with something like "Hey, I just need to find out where you're coming from" or "I just need to see some ID please" ask the identical question again, and if they continue to not answer it with a simple, clear YES or NO, then you could take a little gamble & say "I've asked the question twice, and since you refuse to answer, I am going to assume that I am free to leave. This is a not a consensual encounter and I am going to continue on my way." Doing that kind of forces their hand -- if the officer continues to try to impede you, they're likely violating your civil rights and breaking the law (false detainment/arrest, false imprisonment, kidnapping!). Don't resist, just ask for a command officer to come to the scene, and make a statement (hopefully the officer has a body-camera) indicating that the officer physically blocked your path, touched you, etc. and again, don't answer any questions or make any other statements. If you chose to stand around and talk to the officer by choice, that's not necessarily a bad thing! But be ready for the fishing games -- it'll often start out with small talk & the officer seeming pretty cool -- "Hey, it sure is hot today... Can't wait until I'm done with my shift and home with dinner and a beer..." but it will quickly focus on YOU "You look pretty young, how old are you? Oh yeah? So what year was that... 1998? Cool, my son was also born that year -- what month were you born in?" or "So what have you been up to today?" Open-ended, conversational questions but with the sole purpose of extracting info from you in a relaxed manner instead of demanding "What's your DOB?" "Where were you 10 minutes ago?" and most people won't want to seem rude and say "Hey officer Smith, I hope you enjoy your dinner & beer later today. I'm sorry, but I'm not going to answer any questions or make any statements. You're under-advisement that this is a non-consensual encounter, I do not voluntarily submit to any search, seizure or questioning. Am I being detained, or am I free to leave?" Again, expect the stupid games to continue... "Dude, I just need your name & DOB for my log sheet, then you can go!" or "Gee, the only people that don't want to talk with me are criminals! Have you just committed a crime, or do you have warrants?" Maybe even "Well hey, it's so hot/cold out, can I give you a lift home, or to your car?" Because the next step in that would be "Policy for my PD is that I had to pat-down & take a quick look inside the bag of anyone I give a ride to -- you don't mind, do you?
"Oh, you do object to that? Why, do you have illegal weapons or contraband??!" Keep your cool, don't argue. They give you a ride to your home or car, and now they've got your address or can run your license plate... It's all games & psychology -- the only way for you to win is to stay calm and assert your rights. You start yelling at them and now they can detain/arrest you for being a disorderly person/disturbing the peace. If you're free to go because you've asserted your rights and they have no PC to detain you, the next part of the game is to try to follow you to your car, have another officer drive by you to see if they know who you are, etc.

4. If detained/arrested, don't ASSUME that they have to read you the Miranda Rights/Warning and that anything you tell them couldn't be used because they forgot to read you your rights.

5. If detained/arrested but then released, DON'T ASSUME IT"S ALL OVER WITH! They may not have had enough evidence to hold/arraign you, but could still be collecting evidence, finding witnesses, consulting with the District Attorney/Prosecutor's office etc. and hours, days, weeks or months later, could arrest/re-arrest you, even executing a search warrant on your home, vehicle, cellphone, etc.

5. Remember, at most steps in the process, the police, including detectives in the interview room, etc. can outright lie -- make you think you're a witness, not a suspect, and ask you for details, tell you that you were clearly caught on a hidden security camera inside the building, that a cohort that was with you ratted you out (or that they have you & your cohort both detained, and the first one that cooperates walks, the other goes to jail...), that the property owner doesn't want to sign a complaint because you seem like a nice kid, so there won't be any charges, as-long as you admit it was you & that you won't do it again... It's never-ending. They get as much info as they can, in the hopes that eventually you've given them enough to confirm/deny you're a suspect.

6. In most cases, lying to a public official who is operating in the course of their duty *is* a crime or civil infraction. Of course, they have to suspect you're lying, the false information needs to be material to the situation they're investigating. and they need to show that you lied. Giving a false name is a crime, even if it's later determined that the officer didn't have a right to stop & ask you for your name (in some states, you have to provide your name & DOB to a police officer when asked, in other states, you only have to provide that if the LE gives an articulation of the reasonable suspicion or probable cause that has convinced them you did, are or are about to commit a crime). So again, know your rights at the federal & state-levels, and furnishing any info other than what (if-any) you legally have-to can hurt you, though being friendly & reasonably cooperative could cause you to be just released with a verbal warning...

7. Social media (including what you may think are 'private' forums) is a great, easy tool for LE (as well as potential employers) to gather info on you. Look at all these moronic thugs that post images of themselves waving firearms around, stacks of cash, etc. Sometimes that intel can't be legally used in court, but it's still valuable info.

8. It's gone back & forth in the courts, and I think currently the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals says it's *ILLEGAL* but federal/state/local LEs love to seize smartphones, because they can reveal so much info (exact locations at exact times, incrimidating emails, text messages, images...). It's been such a great tool, even 20 years ago when smartphones arrived, FBI set up regional computer forensics centers that had automated kiosks where a local LE could hook-up the seized phone, and have ALL the data on it read & saved onto a CD or memory stick to be examined. So even if the phone was given back the next day, LE has the data... These days, even small PDs embrace that capability as being a 'force-multiplier,' but if they can't afford it (the software licensing fee is huge), the sheriff's office will have it, or worst-case, state PD's computer forensics centers & FBI Metropolitan Division Offices will have it. Remember too, they can always subpoena your smartphone service provider for some of the data on your smartphone. As for encryption, all I'll say is I wouldn't bet a prison sentence on it. The people that want you to trust your device's encryption are the same people who can break your device's encryption...

9. If you're arrested & taken to jail, stay calm - they may not really have any charges that will stick, *but* if you resist arrest, etc. now they've got charges to hold you and you're gonna probably have to pay for a lawyer, etc. The jail/detention center staff don't know what's going-on, weren't involved in your arrest, etc. all they know is that they're supposed to safely, securely hold-on to you until circumstances call for your release (bail, charges dropped, found innocent, or worst-case, convicted & being shipped-off to prison). BE VERY POLITE & RESPECTFUL TO THE JAIL STAFF!! Part of the booking process is called Classification -- the staff has to figure out if you're a safety/security threat to yourself or others while in their custody. You really DON'T want to be housed in the Section/Pod that houses hard-core bad people -- it's smells bad, you'll be preyed upon, you won't be having intelligent conversations with anyone to pass the time, you're housing unit will be searched/locked-down more often than others, etc. By presenting yourself as an intelligent, peaceful, articulate, cooperative, polite person --albeit being detained-- unless you're suspected of something really evil/violent, you'll be housed in a unit that has people more likely to be your peers in it. where you can lower your guard, have intelligent conversations to pass the time, etc. with like-minded people, the corrections staff are likely to be more friendly, you'll have more privileges, etc. AND while it may not smell great, it will probably smell more like Pine-Sol and Grape Kool-Aid than body odor, Pruno, body fluids (from all orifices) and the metallic smell/taste of freshly spilled blood.

9. Any material information, at any stage of the LE contact, is going to be stored in a LE database. You volunteer your home phone #, your employer, your Twitter handle, your nick-name, your tattoos, the name of your significant other, etc. and that's saved for many years, as-is any past police contact & their lawful notes about you. Once in a while, that can actually be GOOD == my car alarm was going off non-stop in an apartment complex one night & the local PD was called about a noise complaint. They ran my plate, then ran me as the registered owner & they had my cellphone # in their database. They took the time to try to call me & let me know about the issue, but I was too busy on the third-date with a new girlfriend (if you know what I mean...) to answer the phone, so they had no-choice but to have my car towed. If I had answered their call, it would have saved me about $400 in towing/impound fees.


Maturity doesn't mean you always do right and never do wrong, it means that you understand the difference & if deciding to do-wrong, it's for what you think is a good reason, and you accept the potential consequences, while having the savvy to choose an option to minimize the negative consequences. Columbus, de Portola, Vespucci, Cook, Byrd, Lewis & Clark, et. al. all set-off on their explorations without knowing they'd have legal access to the territories they found and documented -- they were ready to just explore without permission, but also ready to negotiate, and fight/flight if it came down to it...


So a police encounter is kind of like playing poker I guess (hell, I don't play poker...) -- you should know the rules, but you must know the game. Know in-advance what's going to cause you to not play, what's going to cause you to play, and how/when to call, bluff or fold.


I'm not a cop, I'm not a criminal, I'm not a lawyer (even if I were a lawyer, laws/ordinances *and their interpretation* vary across local, county & state lines). FYI, I'm definitely not anti-cop & especially not pro-criminal. I'm for personal responsibility though -- if you run from the po-po, or if you calmly approach po-po looking for you, put some thought into it either way.

As Detective Tony Baretta once said, Don't do the crime if you can't do the time"

Or, here's a relevant adage from former LAPD SGT Bob Hodges:
https://www.youtub...atch?v=mxNXp86gFnw


/-/ooligan





There are no stupid questions, just stupid people.
Wowee location:
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Re: how to explore more as a teen?
<Reply # 13 on 7/4/2022 2:39 AM >
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Posted by /-/ooligan


Learn to calmly, politely, respectfully, & authoritatively say "Am I being detained, officer, or am I free to go about my business?"



Thank you very much for this information. If I ever get into a situation where I am with a police officer I will make sure to utilize this advice.



I will stop procrastinating tomorrow...
Aran location:
Kansas City
 
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Re: how to explore more as a teen?
<Reply # 14 on 7/5/2022 5:17 AM >
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Do be aware that refusing to consent to a search is your right, but it in no way will keep them from doing it if they really want to. I got pulled over on the way to a festival a few days ago for having an air freshener hanging from my rearview mirror ("obstruction of view") and the drug-sniffing dog had no interest in my car- so the cop knocked on my trunk a few times to draw the dog's attention then used that as probable cause to search my vehicle, despite my explicitly stated lack of consent.

I didn't have anything on me for them to find, but that didn't stop them from going on a fishing expedition on trumped up justifications. Asserting your rights might help make your case in court, but don't rely on it to keep you safe if the cops really want to screw with you.



"Sorry, I didn't know I'm not supposed to be here," he said, knowing full well he wasn't supposed to be there.

W0rmw00d location:
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Re: how to explore more as a teen?
<Reply # 15 on 7/25/2022 7:38 PM >
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Took a bit of a break from being online, so apologies for the late reply. But thank you guys so much! /-/ooligan, I will definitely save your advice for the future. Thankfully I've only had one issue with an officer (wasn't meaning to trespass, just lost track of time on a phone call in a park that closed after sunset) and it went fairly well; got off with a warning.
I appreciate your guy's advice!! I think that's the first time anybody has actually "sat me down" and explained accountability and how it relates to urbex, and tbh I needed it. Thank you!



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