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Infiltration Forums > Rookie Forum > Advice For Infiltrating Semi-Newly Abandoned High Security Location(Viewed 1682 times)
CraftKrypto location:
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Advice For Infiltrating Semi-Newly Abandoned High Security Location
< on 5/19/2017 5:36 AM >
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I have a location near me in Wisconsin that was abandoned about five years ago. It is a large amusement center/convention center that is still looking for buyers and owned by a company out of state. I can only assume security is very high from driving past and the locked gates. Any advice on getting in...? I have of course been reading through "Access All Areas".
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Re: Advice For Infiltrating Semi-Newly Abandoned High Security Location
<Reply # 1 on 5/19/2017 6:48 AM >
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Consider the potential consequences and how likely they are. Is it worth the risk? I myself am not an adrenaline junkie. If you want my honest opinion, the best way to learn now to infiltrate high risk locations is with experience. If you don't have much experience, I would recommend not attempting an explore. Maybe you could contact the owners and see if you could get permission to take photos.



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Re: Advice For Infiltrating Semi-Newly Abandoned High Security Location
<Reply # 2 on 5/19/2017 12:07 PM >
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Cant offer much in the way of specifics based on your description and photo.

I suggest investing some time in scouting, seems to be a lost art these days. I mean watch it for a while each day observe patterns, see whos coming and going, don't just run in to try to get instant success.

Somebody drove a large excavator in there, if theres construction going on that opens up a range of different options. Ive found gates left open, doors left unlocked. Also you can assess your high security theory by watching who gets in and how, do they have to check in with a gate guard?

Just looking at it in this picture it doesn't look like its high security in the normal sense of the term but there could be some hourly wage security sitting inside the building 24/7. Watch for shift changes these guys rarely work more than 8-12 hour shifts.



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Re: Advice For Infiltrating Semi-Newly Abandoned High Security Location
<Reply # 3 on 5/19/2017 2:16 PM >
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Wowie, nice find there, looks like fun!

Posted by 2Xplorations
I suggest investing some time in scouting, seems to be a lost art these days.

I agree with 2X. Scouting is boring but incredibly useful. It's important to know many people are in the building, how long people are in the building, and why they are in the building. The better you scout the lesser your chance of getting caught. You might even want to wait for popular holidays as (under assumption) there might be a lesser chance of a guard even being there. As for the fences and any other physical barrier you encounter, again, scout. Find the best way to get around the physical barriers, whether its sneaking in while a gate is open, or just hopping the fences at a late hour.

I also wouldn't recommend going right in after getting past the fence, it super tempting but don't. Look through windows, look for cars, anything that gives an indication of a guard inside. Be aware of everything around you and get some great pictures.







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Re: Advice For Infiltrating Semi-Newly Abandoned High Security Location
<Reply # 4 on 5/19/2017 2:28 PM >
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If you have binoculars, see if there are any cameras around (during the day). Park somewhere inconspicuous at night and wait and watch for an hour or two. Do you see any movement? Any lights turning on and off? If no, hop the fence and walk around. Maybe pull on some doors. See what happens.



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Re: Advice For Infiltrating Semi-Newly Abandoned High Security Location
<Reply # 5 on 5/19/2017 2:36 PM >
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Posted by yokes
If you have binoculars, see if there are any cameras around (during the day). Park somewhere inconspicuous at night and wait and watch for an hour or two. Do you see any movement? Any lights turning on and off? If no, hop the fence and walk around. Maybe pull on some doors. See what happens.


This too.* If you go in during your scouting, try the doors.
*yokes you beat me to the post
You posted as I was writing my post below...


Try the direct approach if they're doing a lot of work inside. Talk to the construction company super and express interest in the center and ask he'll let you nail some interior shots.
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If the gates and a door are open in the day, just walk in and start shooting, see how long you last.
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Scout it out early Sunday morning. However if the gate is locked that may put you in a jam if you breached it and are caught inside. It's possible it has a security system on the outside as well. Smartcam networks for high dollar private business were being used by 2006.

Expect an alarm system and probably video surveillance which may or may not be online.


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Re: Advice For Infiltrating Semi-Newly Abandoned High Security Location
<Reply # 6 on 5/19/2017 3:12 PM >
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Yeah, just because you see cameras doesn't mean they are on or monitored. And just because you don't see cameras, doesn't mean they aren't there either.



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Re: Advice For Infiltrating Semi-Newly Abandoned High Security Location
<Reply # 7 on 5/19/2017 3:29 PM >
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Posted by yokes
Yeah, just because you see cameras doesn't mean they are on or monitored. And just because you don't see cameras, doesn't mean they aren't there either.


All too true.
You only see them if they want you too...

Smartcam networks are computer based and need no human eyes once programmed and operational.
They can send real time alerts as soon as a zone is breached or one of their object/behavior profiles goes positive.




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Re: Advice For Infiltrating Semi-Newly Abandoned High Security Location
<Reply # 8 on 5/19/2017 8:31 PM >
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Take notes, take photos.

In this sequence Bubba the guard is locked inside a flimsy security fence. On this day he was only gone for a few minutes. Later he would leave the gate open for his entire lunch break. Probably too lazy to get out of his truck and close it behind him going out.

http://www.uer.ca/...l.asp?picid=113711

http://www.uer.ca/...al.asp?picid=11370

http://www.uer.ca/...l.asp?picid=113710





CraftKrypto location:
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Re: Advice For Infiltrating Semi-Newly Abandoned High Security Location
<Reply # 9 on 5/22/2017 5:18 AM >
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Thank you everyone for the advice!

UPDATE:
I have been driving by every night and I drove by today during the day and a cop was using the front gate to sit (as a speed trap, I am almost certain). Made me more cautious!!



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Re: Advice For Infiltrating Semi-Newly Abandoned High Security Location
<Reply # 10 on 5/22/2017 4:38 PM >
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Posted by CraftKrypto
Thank you everyone for the advice!

UPDATE:
I have been driving by every night and I drove by today during the day and a cop was using the front gate to sit (as a speed trap, I am almost certain). Made me more cautious!!


Be cautious-some users on the forum dont take kindly to sharing information you got while scouting. I'm not tryna be a duck I'm just tryna help you out XD



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Re: Advice For Infiltrating Semi-Newly Abandoned High Security Location
<Reply # 11 on 5/22/2017 4:44 PM >
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Posted by Landser


Be cautious-some users on the forum dont take kindly to sharing information you got while scouting. I'm not tryna be a duck I'm just tryna help you out XD


This is a public viewable thread; -anyone- can view it.
The web spiders never sleep...

It be better if had been posted regionally and made private viewable only.
OP, don't dime yourself out.



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Re: Advice For Infiltrating Semi-Newly Abandoned High Security Location
<Reply # 12 on 5/22/2017 4:53 PM >
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I left it in Rookie because its a good question and learning opportunity that others may benefit from. Notice she asked for advice on "infiltrating" it not on how to seek permission.

If Crafty wants to discuss details I will be happy to move it and make it private. So far no harm no foul.



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<Reply # 13 on 5/22/2017 6:21 PM >
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Posted by 2Xplorations
I left it in Rookie because its a good question and learning opportunity that others may benefit from. Notice she asked for advice on "infiltrating" it not on how to seek permission.

If Crafty wants to discuss details I will be happy to move it and make it private. So far no harm no foul.


Exactly. It's a good thread.
As long as the OP recognizes the potential for unwanted eyes viewing this.





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