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Posted by blackhawk
Meh, if it were me I want you to have a gift you can use. You could simply explain it to them... than again you probably don't need it anyway at most sites.
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My area is an industrial powerhouse, so a lotta factories (Only one I've been too, curse you full member only database!) So I'm not sure how bad it is in those
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I wouldn't worry about the limited exposure you get while exploring. I have to do yearly safety training, and they have said repeatedly that asbestos is only really a hazard with decades of constant exposure. Also, I doubt the asbestos you might encounter would get airborne, unless you're really digging into stuff. Once a week/month of possible exposure isn't going to harm you. Mold and rodent poo is a different story, but that manifests itself pretty quickly. Wear your mask if you want, but I'd prefer the full flow of oxygen.
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Posted by splumer
I wouldn't worry about the limited exposure you get while exploring. I have to do yearly safety training, and they have said repeatedly that asbestos is only really a hazard with decades of constant exposure. Also, I doubt the asbestos you might encounter would get airborne, unless you're really digging into stuff. Once a week/month of possible exposure isn't going to harm you. Mold and rodent poo is a different story, but that manifests itself pretty quickly. Wear your mask if you want, but I'd prefer the full flow of oxygen.
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I plan on going into a hotel very soon and so far, I can tell it's going to be 60% mold, maybe rodent feces. Without a mask, how long would you speculate I'd be fine?
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Posted by splumer
I wouldn't worry about the limited exposure you get while exploring. I have to do yearly safety training, and they have said repeatedly that asbestos is only really a hazard with decades of constant exposure. Also, I doubt the asbestos you might encounter would get airborne, unless you're really digging into stuff. Once a week/month of possible exposure isn't going to harm you. Mold and rodent poo is a different story, but that manifests itself pretty quickly. Wear your mask if you want, but I'd prefer the full flow of oxygen.
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I wouldn't go too ape shit with it. It is a proven killer. One or two heavy exposures can do it. Places were scrappers have stripped of asbestos pipe insulation in tunnels can have quite a bit of airborne asbestos as you walk through.
Just when I thought I was out... they pulled me back in.
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Posted by Zulu
I plan on going into a hotel very soon and so far, I can tell it's going to be 60% mold, maybe rodent feces. Without a mask, how long would you speculate I'd be fine?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hantavirus
It only takes one lungful! Hantavirus seems to be mostly in the southwest US, but it's pretty nasty, with a 38 percent fatality rate.
Here's some info on black mold:
https://en.wikiped.../wiki/Stachybotrys
A respirator really seems like a good idea.
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Would the P100's be good for all of this? I've been reading the wiki's and looking at the filters, but I'm not seeing anything for the H-virus
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Posted by Zulu
Would the P100's be good for all of this? I've been reading the wiki's and looking at the filters, but I'm not seeing anything for the H-virus
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Once you get out there in 90 degree heat with 90% humidity, see how long you want to keep that respirator on, lol.
Again it's only one step that is needed for protection in a highly contaminated site. Hantavirus is a skin biohazard as well inhalation hazard; open cuts or bites from rodents. Also ingestion or contact with mucous membranes; rubbing your eyes or nose with unwashed hands. Don't be disturbing rodent nests or droppings. Although some 30% survive the virus that's only because they're were young, healthy, and almost all had -advanced- life support given at a top notch ICU. Expect to die if you get it, but fortunately it is relatively rare.
PPE is last line protection. Avoid needing to need it to begin with by avoiding playing in heavily contaminated areas. Simple, easy to do, no special gear needed. I've walked through many heavily contaminated sites wit no harm simply by using the knowledge of what to do and not to do. Some objects and rooms are best left undisturbed no matter how interesting they look.
Rule #1 don't stir up dust!
Start going out there and get some experience, then decide what's needed.
Meh... this isn't rocket science. Just do it.
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Posted by blackhawk
Once you get out there in 90 degree heat with 90% humidity, see how long you want to keep that respirator on, lol.
Again it's only one step that is needed for protection in a highly contaminated site. Hantavirus is a skin biohazard as well inhalation hazard; open cuts or bites from rodents. Also ingestion or contact with mucous membranes; rubbing your eyes or nose with unwashed hands. Don't be disturbing rodent nests or droppings. Although some 30% survive the virus that's only because they're were young, healthy, and almost all had -advanced- life support given at a top notch ICU. Expect to die if you get it, but fortunately it is relatively rare.
PPE is last line protection. Avoid needing to need it to begin with by avoiding playing in heavily contaminated areas. Simple, easy to do, no special gear needed. I've walked through many heavily contaminated sites wit no harm simply by using the knowledge of what to do and not to do. Some objects and rooms are best left undisturbed no matter how interesting they look.
Rule #1 don't stir up dust!
Start going out there and get some experience, then decide what's needed.
Meh... this isn't rocket science. Just do it.
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Thanks for the help, really appreciate it
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I'm just going to leave this here: http://www.amazon....ref_=sr_1_2&sr=8-2
We have three of those. I typically use them if I'm worried about asbestos or black mold.
If you get these filters: http://www.amazon....ds=3m+p100+filters
They also keep out smells to a certain extent which is nice as well.
From what I understand, asbestos isn't a big deal unless you're stirring it up. It'll also get on your clothes and in your hair anyway so if you do stir is up, you'll be breathing it in after you leave the building anyway. However, that's definitely not the only thing in those old buildings that you don't want in your lungs. For me personally, the masks give me a little more peace of mind. Plus they're cheap. If you can afford the gas to drive out to these places, then you can afford a $15 mask.
Also, I have explored in very hot and humid weather with that mask. It's not particularly fun and typically if I'm by a window or have an opportunity to walk outside for a bit, I'll take it off. Still think it's better than breathing in all the crap inside the building though.
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