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Uncle Goose 


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Any Mosin Nagant fans here??
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I always wanted to have a Mosin Nagant (I love Russian military stuff) but until recently the only legit way to have one is either buy them deactivated (read "throw away you money on a worthless piece of wood and metal") or try to get a permit (which was nearly impossible unless you were already collecting guns since the stone age). Times has changed and recently the government here published a list with so called "obsolete" weapons for which you don't need a permit anymore and the Mosin Nagant was amongst them. So now I have a fully working one and I love it! It's an M91/30 made in 1943 by Izhevsk. I has been refurbished by an Ukraine depot somewhere in the 1970's and it's completely number matching. Unfortunately firing won't be an option at this moment because you need an expensive permit (pure governmental rip-off, it's just to make more money off our backs as crimes are not committed with an old style bolt action rifle) and you have to be in an even more expensive shooting club to prove you shoot regularly (the argument of "I don't want to shoot regularly, just a few rounds to know the feel of the riffle" doesn't seem to count here). Then you also have to do a written and practical examination, which I wouldn't mind doing to make it legit but the whole construction of having to pay big €'s for a license and shooting club makes this just for the utterly rich people around here. So, I won't be shooting her until I can score some ammo on the black market (which is not easy over here, .22LR I can get plenty but 7.62x54R seems a little bit harder).

Well, anyway, here she is:


Had to use the door, the weapon is so long that I don't have a white paper big enough to photograph it.


Pump stick is still present, I have been told it's hard to get the right size for the right riffle.


Very little wear.


Nicely marked with the Izhevsk mark and the serial number GA5213. On the side (not visible on the photographs) there is also a proof mark of the test-bench of Liege that the weapon passed inspection in 1996.




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< Reply # 1 on 11/25/2009 1:44 PM >
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I am a big fan.
They are one of the last GREAT values out there and ammo is dirt cheap.
I've felled several PA deer with Nagants.




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I am a big fan.
They are one of the last GREAT values out there and ammo is dirt cheap.
I've felled several PA deer with Nagants.


Too bad that no supplier in the US wants to ship towards my country, I would already be happy to have a pack of 20 rounds but alas.




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< Reply # 3 on 11/25/2009 5:06 PM >
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Is it legal to ship ammo to Belgium?
If there is a legal way, I will ship it to you.
Research it, let me know.




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Is it legal to ship ammo to Belgium?
If there is a legal way, I will ship it to you.
Research it, let me know.


In theory there isn't a legal way, I'm prohibited to have any ammo. I guess you are save on your side of the ocean but for me it's something else. I would take the risk however if there is no other option left, after all there are coming so many packages inside Belgium that they can't check them all and dogs can't sniff ammo. To think of, even if they would come knocking on my door I still can deny it saying I don't know any Americans and certainly none who would send me stuff like that . But this is only as a last resort, at this moment I got word of someone who has the contacts to get me the ammo, I will wait and see how that turns out first. Long live the black market.

And concerning legality, If the government allows shipping vast amounts of weapons made by FN Herstal to high risk countries then I see no problem for myself importing some stuff. The funny thing is that the chick who decides all these laws is a hypocrite herself, she says she wants to tighten the gun laws (like they are not tight enough already) but on the other hand she is knee deep in the FN business because hey, she's from Walloon and guess where FN lies, indeed Walloon.



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Dang man, that is a beautiful rifle. That sucks about it being hard to get them where you are, because every local sporting goods store sells them for $100 here, hehe. I know Big 5 used to sell them for dirt cheap.




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< Reply # 6 on 11/25/2009 11:24 PM >
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FYI: The game 'Call of Duty 5: World at War' has this rifle available in the Soviet campaigns.

Edit: Multiplayer mode, as well.



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Have shot a couple, they are great shooting rifles and like said before, ammo is dirt cheap. Been thinking about picking one up here soon as well just to go plink with. 1/4 the price of shooting the enfield.




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< Reply # 8 on 12/4/2009 7:46 AM >
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Big 5 is/was selling them around here last week for $89.




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Well, I just scored some ammo for her, I'll be off testing her in the woods on Sunday. Long live the black market!! where else would the financial and legal oppressed get their stuff .




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hell ya man! let us know how she runs! and dont get caught....




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hell ya man! let us know how she runs! and dont get caught....


OK, I didn't get caught so I had a nice day for a shoot out. It was the first time I fired a Mosin Nagant so I didn't really know what to expect. The result was GREAT!! Never in my life I had so much pleasure of firing a gun, I fired a .22 before but compared to a Mosin that's peanuts. The bang was louder then I could ever imagine but the kickback was pretty mild, I expected much more kickback of suck a large gun, of course the weight of the gun dampens the kickback a little. Accuracy was also great, a small soda bottle was easily hit at 60 yards or so. All in all it's a great gun and it's a piece of history at the same time. Extra Bonus: When in the woods I saw a nice deer but I didn't shoot at it, I'm way to animal friendly to just kill a beautiful deer, I couldn't take it with me to eat it so I rather let this animal live then to let it go to waste. It was just nice to see an animal like that in my country (there is little forest left in Belgium so seeing large wildlife becomes scarce).



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Next on my list, A Mosin Nagant M38 or M44 . Next month there is a militaria fair and I will go check for a full working M38 or M44, no guarantees that I will find one but the odds are high.




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I love my mosin-nagant. First rifle I purchased myself. Any firearms enthusiast with a Mosin isn't a firearms enthusiast at all, if you ask me.

1935 Arsenal Refurbished Tula M91/30. Tula barrel, receiver, rear sight base, and maybe another part or two. All others are Izhevsk parts.




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I love my mosin-nagant. First rifle I purchased myself. Any firearms enthusiast with a Mosin isn't a firearms enthusiast at all, if you ask me.

Do you mean WITHOUT a Mosin?




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Yes, yes I do. I type too fast on occasion. ;)




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I have to try one of these out sometime.




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seen em at the local gun shop for about 80 bucks, the M44 is the longer with built in bayonet correct? Im going to go pick one up when i get payed next month i think.




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Main Russian Variants of WWII:

M91/30, longest, hexagonal or round receiver.

M38, shortened carbine version. Rarer.

M44, basically an M38 with a folding bayonet.




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SOMEONE has had to have bought a Mosin-Nagant in the past year. Well, nearly a year. Report in Mosin owners!

I just expanded the collection with a new 1945 Izhevsk M44. Beautiful condition rifle, though the stock has been refinished.




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