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UER Forum > Canada: Alberta / BC > Under the Garden City: Victoria B.C. secret tunnels. (Viewed 1572768 times)
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< Reply # 760 on 2/19/2006 6:51 PM >
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< Reply # 761 on 2/19/2006 7:32 PM >
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< Reply # 762 on 2/19/2006 9:59 PM >
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I am all that there is. The absolute. My many avatars (surekill,meggaman,mavrix) are splinters of my self serving different purposes in this paradigm.

One purpose is to confuse and illusion the many parts as well as the whole.

I AM in the tunnels, and I AM not. Everything my avatars 'claimed' are lies.

My residence is (alot) closer to these familiar storm drains then one might think.

No mystery lies in them.









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< Reply # 763 on 2/19/2006 10:24 PM >
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Mavrix, have you ever found anything ?

seriously...




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< Reply # 764 on 2/19/2006 10:39 PM >
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Is this what you have been looking for mavrix?

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Midnight. Its beautiful the way the moonlight reflects of shiny marble gravestones, and the eerie dancing silhouettes of small frail-branched trees blowing in the nippy onset of an ocean-brought breeze.

We thought we heard the opening/closing of another entrance further up stream as we dropped in. They must have been "fooling around" with candles.










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< Reply # 765 on 2/19/2006 11:24 PM >
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LOL they must have shat their pants when they heard you coming.




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< Reply # 766 on 2/19/2006 11:56 PM >
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Mavrix, have you ever found anything ?

seriously...


Everything I said in these threads is a lie. I dont believe in this. Ive been in many of the tunnels all over victoria. Nothing but your obvious normal teen age pentagram and graffiti signs in various places. I was merely pasting a bunch of wild/unbelievable ideas for my amusment.




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< Reply # 767 on 2/20/2006 12:56 AM >
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Mavrix, have you ever found anything ?

seriously...


Lets try that again...




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< Reply # 768 on 2/20/2006 1:07 AM >
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LOL they must have shat their pants when they heard you coming.


I dont think "they" heard us coming, we just happened to be going in at the same time "they" were leaving from a different exit...




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< Reply # 769 on 2/20/2006 2:09 AM >
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So I walk out from my favourite Victoria pub. It's cold outside. There are two guys panning for change by what used to be a parking lot.

Next to this lot once stood one of the city's oldest brick buildings, the infamous Pandora St. Squat. It burned to the ground about 24 hours after I posted pics/report on this site.

I asked him point blank: are there tunnels in Victoria?

And he says without missing a beat: Of course. Where do you think guys like me go at night?

KK: Can you take me into them?

X: No.

KK: What would it take to get you to give me a tour?

X: 50 billion dollars plus one million more than what you have now.

KK: That's a lot. I don't have that.

X: Few do. But I can assure you as total and complete truth. There are tunnels under this city that can take you straight from one part of town to another. You can traverse the entire city through these things. City workers are in them all the time.

KK: Then why does the city deny their existence?

X: How the fuck should I know? I have no idea what motivates other people. I know what motivates me.

KK: I'm a bit shy of that 50 billion plus one million.

X: Well whatever. I can say for sure that I was down there a couple of weeks ago. I was there. I have been in them.

KK: Are the entrances easy to find?

X: Why the fuck should I tell you?

KK: Tell me what?

X: Exactly. I've told you everything you need to know about these places. There you go.

I dropped a toonie into his hat, broke off a bud from my stash and said, "Thanks...have a good night.




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The way I see it, there is only one way that I will ever get to traverse every tunnel under Victoria. And if that requires me to become homeless...So be it.

It must work the same way with us sharing tunnel existences with eachother. One guy finds a nice, warm place to sleep and tells his best buddy who has been by his side the last 5 years he has been homeless. He tells him "You have to promise you won't tell anybody where this is" his friend agrees. Again, I'm talking about a tightly knit community within the homeless that know about these places. And only share locations with the strictest of privacy at priority.

P.S. Just look at the weather the last few nights. I was frozen walking around checking stuff out downtown. Imagine having some ratty shoes and thin socks or no socks at all. Clutching to maybe a denim jacket and some newspapers in a garbage bag hoping to make it through the night. Of course these tunnels exist.

An over hang behind some bushes in a parking lot, a big green-metal garbage bin in an alley, a tunnel, the crawlspace under a derelict house, it doesnt matter to them.






A warm place to sleep is just that. It actually is live or die. Survival of the fittest...and in this case...smartest.



broke off a bud from my stash


I dont get it? so you only had 5 Budweisers left?




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Lets try that again...


Nothing of "satanic" importance. Nothing to give evidence of any occult or secretive activity in these tunnels. Thats all a myth.




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KublaKhan 


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Everything I said in these threads is a lie. I dont believe in this. Ive been in many of the tunnels all over victoria. Nothing but your obvious normal teen age pentagram and graffiti signs in various places. I was merely pasting a bunch of wild/unbelievable ideas for my amusment.


I don't believe you.




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< Reply # 773 on 2/20/2006 3:27 AM >
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I dont get it? so you only had 5 Budweisers left?


Three left. I drank the first...wait-a-minute: this is one of those two trains leave the station travelling in opposite directions blah blah blah sixty miles an hour/vs. ten miles an hour down hill etc. blah blah blah questions, isn't it?

I drank two listening to the guy tell me his story, and I gave one to each of them, THEN I broke of the last one and that was it.

And it wasn't Bud. It was New Castle Brown. I gave the last one to an old gal named Molly Mary McTweed.

...this still doesn't make sense. Forget it.

[EDIT: BTW. nice pics, Peterman]



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< Reply # 774 on 2/20/2006 4:55 AM >
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Nothing of "satanic" importance. Nothing to give evidence of any occult or secretive activity in these tunnels. Thats all a myth.


I didn't ask about that now did I ?

I asked if you found anything ?

Found a tunnel ?

All i've seen you find is a satelite picture of bigfoot or something...




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< Reply # 775 on 2/20/2006 5:08 AM >
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All I've seen you find is a satellite picture of bigfoot or something...


It wasn't a satellite picture of bigfoot. It was one of those fancy 3D posters that you have to stare at for six hours to determine that it is really a picture of Elvis eating a taco.




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nice pics J P.




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Uh oh, a Newbie from the City of Tunnels and Gardens. I've been following this amazing thread for a while, tried 'infiltrating' ha ha, a while back but there were some teknikel glitches. I'll try to post some photos.

Great respects to Peterman, Tanuki, and others who have been in the drains, tunnels, call em what you will. Can't help thinking it's just a matter of time until you get into the non drain tunnels which I also choose to believe exist. Peterman's Rock Bay Whorehouse escape tunnel, lol!, is kinda cool. I never knew it existed.

Is anyone not aware of the maps posted in several locations that show all the parts of Bowker Creek that are covered, and those that are open? A UE friendly city or what? The one on top of Mnt. Tolmie, and the other opposite the Oak Bay fire department. As well, there is an entrance in that little park that takes Bowker Creek underground. Probably well known, true.

The other day I was pokin about around the Johnson Street Bridge at low tide. Does anyone know what that square thing next to the drain pipe is? It appears to have an opening. Wasn't wearing my hip waders, so I didn't attempt going around the fence, which goes well into the ocean. An inspection and quick landing by kayak or small boat may be worthwhile. This is easily seen from the downtown North side of the bridge, from that new development. Binoculars from the other side may help.

Also in the area, there is that older renovation just north of the steps leading down to the Boom Boom Room. Go into the courtyard type area, and looking back there is that tall vertical gated slot. There is an intriguing staircase on the right, which appears to go up underneath the sidewalk. Maybe there is some access off the stairs, I didn't look past the gate. On the left is an added wood wall with a locked door. This little alcove is quite cool, I didn't want to be to obvious, being in view of some of the offices. Maybe this is what someone posted a while ago about an entrance near Merlins?

Saw a a late 50's photo of Bastion Square a while ago. It was a slight grade, so all those built up landings may well be hollow underneath.

I was told from someone who runs a shop in Market Square, that there is a large space running under (up) Johnson Street, accessable by maintenance workers in the corner of Market Square. They said they looked in and it went a long way, and the "old sidewalk" is covered with plywood. Maybe this really is an old sidewalk, and Johnson Street was raised decades ago, being a ravine and all.

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The grated part of the courtyard connects to stars which just go back up onto the street. They lock up all their bottles/cans behind there before they are taken away, so that they are not stolen by street-folk. One of my extended family members has been working at Wharfside (the restaraunt above the BoomBoomRoom) for years.

large space running under (up) Johnson Street


Ive heard about at tunnel like thing that goes up Johnson, what it actually is are a line of extended store fronts that are all connected, Good work turning that up! I've been in them, They are technically connected. But instead of sharing a big strip of extended store basements, most of the current and previous store owners have put up plywood dividing walls between their property lines...out of privacy most likely. The cavity is pretty much littered with supplies, mops, and maintenance materials.


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In that terrible picture I took, you can see the plywood dividers in the distance. I'm pretty sure they are just put up with shotty wood nails and not very good frame work.

Good work snoopin! Try crawling up that pipe at low tide



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Excerpt from a journalist's article about Victoria's Chinatown in 1911.

Underneath Chinatown is a perfect maze of secret passages designed for the escape of the white and yellow gamblers...Since the Chinese own all the land on which they build, the authorities can do nothing to prevent this burrowing, with all its dangerous possibilities.

There is a notorious tale about how opium was shipped to the Inner Harbour near the foot of the Johnson Street bridge and then smuggled into Chinatown via a tunnel; the entrance of which can still be seen at low tide. May this be the that thing you photographed or maybe another hidden or now covered entrance.

A common feature of Chinatown buildings is a "cheater storey", an extra floor created within a floor. This was to evade taxation. An owner could create an extra storey and keep all the income it generated. A good example of this you can see just above the shops in the On Hing Company Store 1710-1714 Government St. These may be sweet to get a look at, half-sized floors starting from the basement up...or down.



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