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KublaKhan
Location: Edinburgh, Scotland Total Likes: 207 likes
With Satan, it's always gimmie, gimmie.
| | | Re: Under the Garden City: Victoria B.C. secret tunnels. < Reply # 241 on 11/6/2005 10:01 PM > | Reply with Quote
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| "The truth is knowable. But probably not, ever, incontrovertible." --Don DeLillo PICS |
| KublaKhan
Location: Edinburgh, Scotland Total Likes: 207 likes
With Satan, it's always gimmie, gimmie.
| | | Re: Under the Garden City: Victoria B.C. secret tunnels. < Reply # 248 on 11/10/2005 5:24 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by Jester
... of a drain... Nice drain though.
| Yes indeed. Drains. Read Tanuki's report. I trust you have already, because you are diligent, informed, interested. Read it again. Drains vs. tunnels...is it a terrible stretch to assume that a child's active imagination...or even the active imagination of a junkie/vagrant/whatever...might assume that the drains in question are really tunnels...or that these drains fulfill some tunnel expectation viz. a viz. the rumour? Antichambers, stairs, etc. all lend themselves to this speculation of an actual network. The details of a child's disappearance, with respect to proximity, addresses, alleged satanism, etc. works well to enhance the story. You'd agree to that, at least. Wouldn't you, Jester?
| "The truth is knowable. But probably not, ever, incontrovertible." --Don DeLillo PICS |
| Jester
Location: Vancouver,B.C. Canada Gender: Male Total Likes: 21 likes
Always just out of sight...
| | | | Re: Under the Garden City: Victoria B.C. secret tunnels. < Reply # 249 on 11/10/2005 5:30 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by KublaKhan You'd agree to that, at least. Wouldn't you, Jester?
| What I agree is, those are drains. Older drains look like that. No mysticism, no magick, just drains. Just because someone mistakes them for secret tunnels, doesn't make it so. When I was a little kid (7 or 8 years old), travelling across Canada constantly, I saw all the grain silos. I thought they were missile silos, and thought canada was a superpower. Just because I believed it, didn't make it true. Nice drains though.
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| KublaKhan
Location: Edinburgh, Scotland Total Likes: 207 likes
With Satan, it's always gimmie, gimmie.
| | | Re: Under the Garden City: Victoria B.C. secret tunnels. < Reply # 250 on 11/10/2005 5:36 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by Jester
What I agree is, those are drains. Older drains look like that. No mysticism, no magick, just drains. Just because someone mistakes them for secret tunnels, doesn't make it so. When I was a little kid (7 or 8 years old), travelling across Canada constantly, I saw all the grain silos. I thought they were missile silos, and thought canada was a superpower. Just because I believed it, didn't make it true. Nice drains though.
| Yes yes yes...nice drains. Those grain silos...MISSILE SILOS, buddy. I'm guessing Raygun was President when you were 7 or 8. We had cruise missiles flapping around over our heads at that time (or did we?). I was there, buddy...I saw it ALL GO DOWN. Tunnels/drains. If you've never seen a drain and you live in a city that boasts a network of underground tunnels (substantiated or not) these drains are, for all intents and purposes, tunnels. Remember: this is all speculative fiction.
| "The truth is knowable. But probably not, ever, incontrovertible." --Don DeLillo PICS |
| Tanuki
Location: Victoria, BC Total Likes: 1 like
| | | Re: Under the Garden City: Victoria B.C. secret tunnels. < Reply # 256 on 11/11/2005 12:50 AM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Just to clarify, I'm not saying that the pictures I posted aren't storm drains. They obviously are, the water comes down through grates, and flows into the ocean. But it is over 2 miles long, about 20 feet below ground level for most of it's length, and 6 to 7 feet high. Other people may have a different definition of the word 'tunnel', but in my mind this definitely qualifies. There are natural tunnels, utility tunnels, subway tunnels, train tunnels, etc., and this one happens to be a storm drain tunnel. It also roughly follows the route of an old creek that once drained Harris Lake in Fernwood. Both Harris Lake and the creek are now gone, but the storm drain tunnel remains. I also don't think that the fact that this tunnel is a storm drain really detracts from the rumors. In the summer it is pretty dry down there. People could use this tunnel in the same way they could use any other tunnel. And it is functionally 'secret' for most purposes. I have spent a lot of time asking a lot of people in Victoria about storm drains and other tunnels, including city workers, and KublaKhan has been doing similar, and I would be surprised if more than a dozen people in Victoria knew of this tunnel's existence. My point is just that there is a really cool [storm drain] tunnel there, and there are some very interesting stories surrounding it. I attached a couple pictures from the UE DB, for the non-members to see. Enjoy!
[last edit 11/11/2005 12:52 AM by Tanuki - edited 1 times]
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