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UER Forum > UE Videos > Camping at Abandoned Disney Theme Park (Discovery Island) in the Heart of Disney World (Viewed 12579 times)
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Re: Camping at Abandoned Disney Theme Park (Discovery Island) in the Heart of Disney World
< Reply # 20 on 4/19/2020 1:27 AM >
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^THE SPOT HAS BEEN BLOWN-UP FOR YEARS NOW. . There are at least 50 Youtube videos (racking-up millions of views across the entire world), and dozens of articles about the island, and the explorers who have been there. There have been reports about explorers visiting the island on local Florida TV networks. Not to mention the MILLIONS OF PEOPLE who remember visiting the island before it closed. Its one of the most famous abandoned places on Earth. This isn't some obscure power plant, or house in the middle of nowhere. This was a giant tourist trap that has been written about the past two decades.

And to the people who say urban exploration is about "preserving history," how are you preserving history by hoarding photos and videos that you took at abandoned locations? That's like taking all history books in schools and throwing them in a vault and not letting anyone look at them.

We document history so that people can know, and understand what happened in the past. If you want people to appreciate the history of abandoned places, you have to first teach people the history of the locations, why it's significant, what happened there, and what's left of it. Say what you want about my channel, but my videos have actually educated hundreds of thousands of people on the history of some abandoned places. The photo/video hoarders have not educated anyone.

So you want people to appreciate, and respect abandoned places, but you don't want to tell anyone about abandoned places. Tell me how that makes any sense. And btw, the best way to ensure that historic places aren't demolished is by showing people how incredible and important a location is. That cannot be done by hoarding photos, and being anti-social.

And yes, I make my videos fun and entertaining. No one is going to watch a bland-ass video of some guy with a robotic personality walking around an abandoned building. And I don't want to edit and create a boring video. And I'm also not ashamed to admit that I will continue to try and gain followers, and I want to make money off of my channel so I can make money doing what I love: filmmaking and exploring.

Furthermore, on a different point: explorers have been exploring, and documenting their findings (and making them public) for thousands of years. From Marco Polo to Shackleton. If it were up to some people on this forum, half the world wouldn't even be on a map.





Well said. Keep on doing what you love!




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Huh. I guess covid made me a trendsetter.

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< Reply # 21 on 4/19/2020 2:51 AM >
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I would love to hear what those reasons are that your generation of explorers explored for, that's different than mine. I believe you. Did you burn out? Why'd you stop? And if you retired from exploring why do you still lurk this forum often? So your used expression "jumping the shark" ... Another words urban exploring isn't cool anymore...? I could understand that and perhaps its got a lot to do with those changed motivations?


Now I can't speak for Speed but I've talked to multiple semi-retired explorers and it basically comes down to having less time and more risk aversion with age. The prospect of chancing arrest at high-risk locations every weekend becomes a lot less appealing to a 40 year old with kids and a career than it is to a 25 year old with no family working a dead end restaurant job.



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Indiana Jones wasn't an archaeologist, he was an urban explorer. Archaeologists do a lot less running and a lot more paperwork.

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< Reply # 22 on 4/19/2020 3:37 AM >
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Now I can't speak for Speed but I've talked to multiple semi-retired explorers and it basically comes down to having less time and more risk aversion with age. The prospect of chancing arrest at high-risk locations every weekend becomes a lot less appealing to a 40 year old with kids and a career than it is to a 25 year old with no family working a dead end restaurant job.


Understandable.




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< Reply # 23 on 4/19/2020 4:06 AM >
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Now I can't speak for Speed but I've talked to multiple semi-retired explorers and it basically comes down to having less time and more risk aversion with age. The prospect of chancing arrest at high-risk locations every weekend becomes a lot less appealing to a 40 year old with kids and a career than it is to a 25 year old with no family working a dead end restaurant job.


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< Reply # 24 on 4/19/2020 4:15 AM >
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Truth is everybody on here does it for the views. All these older generation explorers hating on the younger generations for sharing pictures on Instagram and videos on Youtube are hypocrites. Urban exploring is a sport. The game is who can take pictures of the most insane places and get the most insane photos. Then you post them online and create a explorer identity and try to rack up as many likes followers as you can.


Man I gotta disagree strongly with this - exploring is about, well, exploring. Some people enjoy taking photos and sharing them and that's fine. Some people do it for the views, and that's fine* as long as they're responsible about it.

But many of the best explorers I know usually go without a camera, and just take in the location they're at, in the moment - and thats the true essence of what exploring is, everything else is tangential.

We as a community are about exploring, and experiencing the coolest places. If your primary motivation is social media, there's nothing wrong with that, but don't judge people who explore for exploring's sake, and don't try to redefine what exploring is.




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< Reply # 25 on 4/19/2020 6:00 AM >
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Man I gotta disagree strongly with this - exploring is about, well, exploring. Some people enjoy taking photos and sharing them and that's fine. Some people do it for the views, and that's fine* as long as they're responsible about it.

But many of the best explorers I know usually go without a camera, and just take in the location they're at, in the moment - and thats the true essence of what exploring is, everything else is tangential.

We as a community are about exploring, and experiencing the coolest places. If your primary motivation is social media, there's nothing wrong with that, but don't judge people who explore for exploring's sake, and don't try to redefine what exploring is.


I can't agree with this more. Most explorers I know are expressly NOT in it for the social media views- rather, they're in it for the adrenaline, the art, or historical interest. Those that do take photographs take them for the sake of sharing their experiences with fellow explorers on small forums like this one or just for the art. Social media fame doesn't even factor into it and shouldn't be a motivation, because increased public attention accelerates the circle of decay. The "chasing likes" mentality is actively harmful to this hobby and the locations we explore.




Indiana Jones wasn't an archaeologist, he was an urban explorer. Archaeologists do a lot less running and a lot more paperwork.

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< Reply # 26 on 4/20/2020 2:41 AM >
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Blackhawk is gone. But the #maxpowerbad movement still lives!

#maxpowerbad


It's not even entertaining at this point. Just shut the hell up, kid.

Refresh your book or fuck off.




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We as a community are about exploring, and experiencing the coolest places. If your primary motivation is social media, there's nothing wrong with that, but don't judge people who explore for exploring's sake, and don't try to redefine what exploring is.


Posted by Aran

Most explorers I know are expressly NOT in it for the social media views- rather, they're in it for the adrenaline, the art, or historical interest. Those that do take photographs take them for the sake of sharing their experiences with fellow explorers on small forums like this one or just for the art.


Jumping in to agree with these! Maybe it's the crowd I hang with, but almost none of the explorers I know are in it for the social media attention, the likes, the clout, whatever it's called these days. The photos I take are memories of locations and places, and they're first and foremost for me. I explore because it's interesting and because I like to do it, and claiming that all explorers do so for the "likes" because that's how you view exploring yourself is ridiculous and self-centered, especially when this is a subculture that's existed for decades before social media existed.




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< Reply # 28 on 4/20/2020 3:32 AM >
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UER Mods ban Blackhawk yet still allow this Max kid to have a profile here. More spots have been blown up and posted all over YouTube....

you know what FUCK IT. No one cares or listens to those who try to protect rather than exploit.

This is exactly why UER is dead.




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There are things that are openly shared "secret" among explorers, but publicly blowing up means using whatever means available to promote your brand, going out of the way to attract journalists' attention and speaking to the press, like this.

http://www.chicago...-Chicago-Urbexing/

Nothing gets a spot cracked down quite like attention in the press.

For example, https://www.nbcnew...-karnauch/2022258/
Yeah, you bet security measures were upped.

Things were tightened up in this case, only after the press was involved.
https://www.kgw.co...-bf2a-79252e42021a




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< Reply # 30 on 4/20/2020 8:42 AM >
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This is what exploring has turned in to. It is NOT what exploring was.
This is specifically why you see the “old guard” vs “new guard” friction that you describe in your post. Was there a degree of ”one-upsmanship” amongst the old guard. Absofuckinloutly...you bet there was. But there was also a respect for locations as well as a camaraderie amongst the old guard that the new generation doesn’t share. I also believe the motivation is completely different.
Your generation explores for completely different reasons than mine did.

Urban exploring jumped the shark years ago...

Full disclosure...I no longer explore and haven’t in quite sometime.
I was extremely active at one time as people in this very thread can vouch to.






This is 100% true. We’ve explored together years ago but with kids and career changes, you have other things to worry about. The Philadelphia and nyc scenes have changed big time.




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Nice job hitting this place though Max. I’ve been wanting to for a while, except that Florida is kinda far just for this.




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Nice job hitting this place though Max. I’ve been wanting to for a while, except that Florida is kinda far just for this.


Thanks dude! I would definitely recommend going, especially if you can go now because of cheap airfare and the fact that hardly anyone is working at Disney World rn.




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UER Mods ban Blackhawk yet still allow this Max kid to have a profile here. More spots have been blown up and posted all over YouTube....

you know what FUCK IT. No one cares or listens to those who try to protect rather than exploit.

This is exactly why UER is dead.


1. Banning me from UER (which is simply preventing me from posting) is not going to have a significant effect on my channel traffic.

2. UER is dead because of the constant negativity. Comments by some members are pure cancer.

3. Blackhawk was banned because he basically became a bully, and then he began to start drama with everyone over everything for reasons that no one understands.




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There was a lot I wanted to say based on the issues in this thread. So I created a new thread on the main forum.




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Pretty sure you're not first or even close to first, but perhaps the first to publicly blow it up like this. Your umbex mentality shows.


Very incorrect. UER mod (former?) Shane put it on his blog in 2009 and it blew up on news media nationally. He was banned for life from all Disney parks. The difference, though, was that Shane fucking swam out there.



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You see you're right that many people who now advise discretion once bragged about shit in what us old timers use to call "blogs." The big difference, however, is we all learned not to do that the FIRST time it bit us in the ass. But you keep on getting caught and keep on getting charged yet you don't change your tactics. It's almost like you might be rich enough to not face the same consequences as most of the rest of us? Tell me max, how much does your daddy make?




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Wait. You don't think he paid for that Audi himself?




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You see you're right that many people who now advise discretion once bragged about shit in what us old timers use to call "blogs." The big difference, however, is we all learned not to do that the FIRST time it bit us in the ass. But you keep on getting caught and keep on getting charged yet you don't change your tactics. It's almost like you might be rich enough to not face the same consequences as most of the rest of us? Tell me max, how much does your daddy make?


Alright first of all, I've only been arrested once because of urbex, and my parents don't even know I got arrested. If they knew police pointed ARs at me they would have had a heart attack. I've been charged twice with local ordinance violation level trespassing which doesn't even go on your record. Ya my dad bailed me out of a tough situation in 2017 when the feds (pretty much just a rouge twig pig who had federal authority) were trying to charge me with a whole bunch of bullshit for making a vid on the Joliet arsenal.

"yOu KeEp GeTtiNg CaUgHt.." what in the fuck are you even talking about? Last time I got caught was over a year ago, the one time I was arrested for urbex.

And save the regurgitated Karl Marx bullshit for another site. We all know you're attempting to construct an edgy persona out of your vapid and dull personality by constantly tying every subject matter to your tired and uncreative political philosophy: essentially copy-pasting swaths of old Lenin propaganda into completely unrelated posts and comments. Who are you trying to be anyway? Pretending to be a radical marxist innovator by sneaking century-old talking points into every facet of your life does not make you a hero, it makes you another idiot with no new ideas of his own, clinging to a political agenda to give him a purpose in life through the process of mentally masterbating to his own "enlightenment" and self righteousness and cuming your drivel onto people who didn't ask for, don't want, and don't care about your opinions.



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Mods need to queue this child up for a ban.
I’ve never seen this forum exploited so much and without consequence.
3 years of dribble. Sad.




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