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 | 1 2 | UER Forum > Rookie Forum > How do you research and find locations? Tips for beginners? (Viewed 8144 times) |
Trespassing wayfarer
Location: Ottawa - Toronto Gender: Male Total Likes: 53 likes

| | |  | Re: How do you research and find locations? Tips for beginners? < Reply # 10 on 2/28/2017 3:46 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | As said before, biking around is super useful, not to mention, healthy. You can cover a lot of ground, along with having all the versatility of a pedestrian. Also, bikes are a lot less noticeable, you can hide them super well. It even comes with a pretty good excuse for why you are loitering around, just say you were tired and needed a rest.
That being said, the internet is a great tool as well, especially if you can think outside the box. Before heading to a new city to explore I like to go through flickr to see what other explorers in that city have found. (Youtube videos would also work too) They don't often have the locations, but it's a good way to know what's out there. Sometimes there's even little environmental clues that when paired with Google Earth, as people have mention, makes finding places pretty easy. It's a pretty reliable, though sometimes slow way. Personally, I spend a lot of time looking at the various complaints people send into my city about abandoned buildings. These "concerned citizens" will often mention the exact location of the abandoned building they are complaining about. Finding places this way is a lot faster, though it doesn't always works. Ottawa, the city I live in, is the capital and political center of Canada, so it's in the public eye. This makes people a lot more aware and concerned of "problematic" properties. Other ways could include checking out some of the webpages of local graffiti artists, asking art students, or sometimes there's even a Facebook group dedicated to finding abandoned buildings. Every city is a little different, and you just have to adapt to the resources of that particular geographical community. However, the absolute best way of finding places is through word of mouth of other explorers. If you don't know any explorers often times they will be willing to trade locations with you once you get some cool locations under your belt. Good Luck!
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| Dee Ashley
Location: DFW, Texas Gender: Female Total Likes: 1378 likes
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| | |  | Re: How do you research and find locations? Tips for beginners? < Reply # 15 on 3/1/2017 1:05 AM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by Peptic Ulcer A bit "out of the box" but ask a cop. Seriously. Some of my best leads have come from cops. I've even had a few police escorts to locations and in one case a cop went exploring WITH ME! Once you build rapport with them it's a fantastic resource. The police in Midland, TX all knew me, knew why I was trespassing and said they had no problem with it and appreciated me letting them know. Be respectful, forthright and honest, maybe a little funny and it helps. Depending on your age tell them your working on a school project or writing a book. Cops in small towns tend to be a lot easier to deal with too so don't try this in a major city.
| This actually does work sometimes. A friend and I were badly wanting to light paint a great location that happened to be directly across the street from the Sheriff's Dept. Light painting a location has its own challenges with regard to not getting caught (notice the word " light" in light painting). My friend wanted to ask one of the officers in the parking lot and I figured, what the hell, why not - but I really didn't think the officer would give us his blessing. Well, he did! We had free reign of that entire property half of the night without any police interference of any kind. I don't know how often this method will work (and we were actually in a large city too), but it goes back to the saying, "it never hurts to just ask!" The only way I could see this having the opposite effect is if they say, "no," and now they would know who you were and know you went against their orders if you did the explore anyways. In the end, it boils down to making a judgement call that considers all of these factors, and even more, depending on the location and situation.
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| Aran
Location: Kansas City Gender: Male Total Likes: 1769 likes
 Huh. I guess covid made me a trendsetter.
| |  | Re: How do you research and find locations? Tips for beginners? < Reply # 18 on 3/11/2017 7:08 AM > | Reply with Quote
| | | One thing I've learned is that a key part of finding locations is having an ear to the ground in regards to the happenings of your city. This can take some time, but knowing the ins and outs of city politics and economics can be a valuable tool. In urban areas, abandoned buildings are most common in low income areas. Low income areas tend to have a positive correlation with the crime rates. Crime report maps are usually publicly available online, and are usually pretty up to date. I've been experimenting with taking crime maps, and looking for clusters of dense crime areas. Small areas where there are multiple and frequent occurrences of several crime types (vandalism, assault, robbery, burglary) can be good indicators of something to look into. High crime doesn't always lead to abandonments, of course. In Madison, WI for example, this map shows a number of incidents running along the isthmus, which is the wealthiest and most well policed part of the city, partially due to the presence of the State Capitol building there. Zooming in on State Street, which runs from the University of Wisconsin Madison administration building on one end to the State Capitol on the other, we can see many recent reports of Disturbing the Peace, most likely due to recent student protests there. However, towards the outskirts of town, we can see groupings of crime reports, which may indicate low income areas. Combine this with keeping up to date on the news and mapping previously discovered abandonments, and you can find some patterns to help narrow your search areas.
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| Dee Ashley
Location: DFW, Texas Gender: Female Total Likes: 1378 likes
 Write something and wait expectantly.
| | |  | Re: How do you research and find locations? Tips for beginners? < Reply # 19 on 3/12/2017 10:51 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by Aran One thing I've learned is that a key part of finding locations is having an ear to the ground in regards to the happenings of your city. This can take some time, but knowing the ins and outs of city politics and economics can be a valuable tool. In urban areas, abandoned buildings are most common in low income areas. Low income areas tend to have a positive correlation with the crime rates. Crime report maps are usually publicly available online, and are usually pretty up to date. I've been experimenting with taking crime maps, and looking for clusters of dense crime areas. Small areas where there are multiple and frequent occurrences of several crime types (vandalism, assault, robbery, burglary) can be good indicators of something to look into. High crime doesn't always lead to abandonments, of course. In Madison, WI for example, this map shows a number of incidents running along the isthmus, which is the wealthiest and most well policed part of the city, partially due to the presence of the State Capitol building there. Zooming in on State Street, which runs from the University of Wisconsin Madison administration building on one end to the State Capitol on the other, we can see many recent reports of Disturbing the Peace, most likely due to recent student protests there. However, towards the outskirts of town, we can see groupings of crime reports, which may indicate low income areas.
Combine this with keeping up to date on the news and mapping previously discovered abandonments, and you can find some patterns to help narrow your search areas.
| Along the same lines: hooking up with forums of builder's, architects, construction workers, etc., is something I'm just now starting to play with, and I'm really excited with the results. I would assume this is only useful in densely populated areas, but there are tons of secondary data that you can pull out of these sites. For instance, I found a map that auto updates itself through google (MyMaps, I think), and shows all current, past, failed, and proposed major developement projects. This is especially interesting to me because what do you think is about to happen to those three farmhouses and textile mill currently sitting inside that shaded area that are for sale or perhaps already bought out? Most places within that zone are going to be flattened and are often already vacant or slowly becoming vacant as the new owners phase them out for demolition and to build their spiffy new stadium or mixed use 500 acre luxury villa or whatever. There is a wealth of info in forums dedicated to preservation, construction, architecture, and developement. Hell, even the ghost hunting forums have yielded some surprising successes for me in the past! Edit: typo
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