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| | | | Re: Freefallin'... Hellholes are Real < Reply # 161 on 4/16/2019 7:13 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Rough terrain such as a step slope or just navigating rocky slopes can maim or even turn turn deadly. ●Control your speed and movement even if takes extra time. ●Wear high top lace up boots to help protect your feet/ankles and knees; lace them fully and tight. ●A sturdy oak walking stick is recommended and is excellent for run-ins with dogs or wild animals like feral pigs as well. Oak long shovel handles work well if you're not too tall. Sharpen end to a crude point. Experienced jogger/hiker 24-year-old Jerika Binks apparently lost her life by misstepping. https://www.foxnew...ns-utah-canyon-run Rest in Peace
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| | | | Re: Freefallin'... Hellholes are Real < Reply # 167 on 2/18/2020 3:34 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | You say this couldn't happen to you. Unfortunately humans make errors and when the margin for error is small, errors occur more frequently. Highly experienced workers, climbers, hikers etc have done it many times with fatal or life altering results. As you get fatigued or if tired/sick your reflexes slow, your reasoning abilities and judgement are impaired. Most don't readily notice it as it's happening. Errors become more likely and common. Physically our bodies can fail us in many ways, unpredictably in a split second although rare in a healthy person, it happens. By not taking this into account, you increase your risks. Even fully alert and on your best day, you can make a fatal mistake. Leave room for error whenever possible. Showboating has killed countless people. Perceived danger vs real danger; avoid the latter as much as possible in shoots!!! Plant yourself so you can't fall before fucking with the cam, every time you shoot at height. Many have died by going right to the edge of oblivion and making ONE mistake. This accident was completely preventable... https://www.foxnew...rk-fall-queen-seat Note: I'm an adrenalin junkie. Over the decades I've walked the knife's edge in many different ways pushing my limits and physics. Sometimes death licked me hard when I wasn't even knowingly pushing the limits. Sometimes when I was and thought to myself "Not could go wrong now..." except there always is. If you respect nothing I hope you respect blinding white hot pain. Pain does come in colors too. If you survive, this kind of pain is an excellent teacher... I sincerely suggest you don't show up for class. Death isn't the worst result; being permanently crippled is. Death is a trip we all must eventually take; being a crip is not. CONTROL the heat as Pappy Boyington would say.
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| | | | Re: Freefallin'... Hellholes are Real < Reply # 170 on 2/20/2020 1:42 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by MysteriousExpedition
Oh yeah it's bad. The worst part is that it's so tempting. It's like your mind is playing a tug of war on whether you want to ask risk something like that. Here's the roof I was talking about. Also, underneath all the snow was extremely slippery ice. As if it wasn't already bad enough to walk on, one wrong imbalance and you could very well fall the whole roof itself. I had to almost crawl my way back since I made it almost towards the latter at the end before finding the sun roof 1.
| MysteriousExpedition, many here have had floors and roofs collapsed under them... me tooooo. Before you walk on a roof, it's a good idea to walk under it first. If you can directly inspect it from below even better. Indirectly, moderate to severe water damage below should make you concerned. Roofs aren't suppose to have open holes, right? Trust nothing, floors and roofs can have anything from a small to a huge hole. Sometimes by design, or because equipment was removed, decay, etc. At night these can impossible to see without light. Or they could be covered with cardboard/dust etc that won't support your weight. Darkness is your enemy when it comes to hellholes. Or the Nike Missile Master Blue Room with the tile floor except it has a subbasement and the access door was gone. And you're looking all around in wonder and amazement... when you need to be looking down!!! With every step... even just one step back to take a shot. Look first. Verify.
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| Crakhead
Location: montreal,canada Gender: Male Total Likes: 26 likes
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| | | | Re: Freefallin'... Hellholes are Real < Reply # 171 on 2/20/2020 1:55 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by Ground State I'm one of the lucky ones. I lived, but this is me now....
After six months of physio, my arm is 100% again as of about 3 weeks ago. Thankfully, I had full coverage. Otherwise, I'd be out 57 visits x $55 each = $3,135. And that's in Canada, where I had free health care for the initial treatment and surgery. All this because I chanced a floor that I already knew was weak. But after visiting hundreds of locations, my overconfidence caused a momentary lapse of reason... and that's all it took. Dislocation, fracture and shoulder pins aside, if there had been a nail or wire inside the floor that I went through that tore my femoral artery, I would have died for sure.
| i mean im in class so i can't show any pic but i may upload it later. so i dislocate my elbow and seriously thanks to canada making the free health cover seriously my elbow isn't 100% functional but if redo some physio i can be 100% functional. Now i got srews and a plate in it (hurts a lot). I mean just be carefull around hellholes i may not have died but seriously don't mess around hellholes (i speak french so excuse my spelling and grammar)
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| | | Re: Freefallin'... Hellholes are Real < Reply # 172 on 2/20/2020 2:05 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by blackhawk
MysteriousExpedition, many here have had floors and roofs collapsed under them... me tooooo. Before you walk on a roof, it's a good idea to walk under it first. If you can directly inspect it from below even better. Indirectly, moderate to severe water damage below should make you concerned. Roofs aren't suppose to have open holes, right? Trust nothing, floors and roofs can have anything from a small to a huge hole. Sometimes by design, or because equipment was removed, decay, etc. At night these can impossible to see without light. Or they could be covered with cardboard/dust etc that won't support your weight. Darkness is your enemy when it comes to hellholes. Or the Nike Missile Master Blue Room with the tile floor except it has a subbasement and the access door was gone. And you're looking all around in wonder and amazement... when you need to be looking down!!! With every step... even just one step back to take a shot. Look first. Verify.
| That's really scary! This whole roof screamed "death tramp" the moment I saw it and my legs still carried me there to capture footage. The explorer I was with also warned me not to tread further... but being the stubborn person I am, the allure of adventure was just too strong for me. Man, the stuff we do for excitement is also the beginning of a trap. Also, as a side note, if you aren't careful enough, the camera itself could fall easily into these hellholes if trying to capture a shot of one. I lost one camera, although that camera wasn't too good anyways lol. But anything can happen, it's crazy. But yes, I shall take your advice to heart
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| | | | Re: Freefallin'... Hellholes are Real < Reply # 173 on 2/20/2020 10:30 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by MysteriousExpedition
That's really scary! This whole roof screamed "death tramp" the moment I saw it and my legs still carried me there to capture footage. The explorer I was with also warned me not to tread further... but being the stubborn person I am, the allure of adventure was just too strong for me. Man, the stuff we do for excitement is also the beginning of a trap. Also, as a side note, if you aren't careful enough, the camera itself could fall easily into these hellholes if trying to capture a shot of one. I lost one camera, although that camera wasn't too good anyways lol. But anything can happen, it's crazy. But yes, I shall take your advice to heart
| Sometimes if you react very quickly and correctly you can outrun a collapse if it's going slow enough. Sometimes it's just *bam*, gone. I outran a collapsing floor in the whiskey barrel aging warehouse at Linnvilla barely. It was only a 3 to 4 foot drop but to what? The blind terror you feel as the floor starts downward is indescribable... and very real. Did it once on a piece of steel grating that wasn't secured properly at an active pumping station... assholes. Barely got off it and nothing but steel to catch me if I failed. To see the vintage X-ray machine power supply/control console once at Pennhurst I took unwise risk(s). Had that nailed me it would have been a rough landing from 12 feet. What seems important at the moment needs to be kept in perspective to that white hot pain that can come in colors and keeps giving until you pass out from shock. Even a few seconds of that kind of pain will stayed hardwired with you for future reference Severe injuries from falls are more common than I realized in this community of seasoned explorers. Thanks everyone who shared their zero G stories
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