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Encountering Graffiti Artists (Not Taggers)
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So I posted this in another thread but nobody seemed to notice it and it was a fun encounter so I figured I would start a thread.


I went to a factory I had been scoping out for a while, feeling confident that I had a covert path into the place. After trudging through sticker bushes and tall grass for a while I got to the lot and started to set up. After cursing in frustration for leaving my tripod mount at home, I started to do some hand held shots in the first building.

In the next building I started to hear music and my first thought was that it was coming from somebody's car on the property...a guard?....a worker?...
I froze and listened for the source and realized it was coming from inside the building, on the other side of the wall I was standing next to..So I go and turn the corner to find this guy..



It was him and one other artist. They didn't seem to startled to see me, I raised my respirator, and greeted them. They thought I was another artist at first but I explained that I just take pictures of places like this. I asked if it was okay to hang out for a bit and watch and they were fine with it, I also asked if it was okay to take a couple photos and they agreed as long as faces were not shown. They were some guys from DC, never caught their names.


So has anyone else run into actual Graffiti artists while exploring? Have any cool pics to show for it? I have always kind of wanted to run into one so this was a fun experience for me.



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Graffiti artists almost always are taggers as well. I can't speak for this location, but I'm not a fan of any graffiti or tagging whatsoever. I can't say I would've been rude to these people or narcked on them or anything, but they probably would've gotten some hard questions from me in a civil conversation.




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Graffiti artists almost always are taggers as well. I can't speak for this location, but I'm not a fan of any graffiti or tagging whatsoever. I can't say I would've been rude to these people or narcked on them or anything, but they probably would've gotten some hard questions from me in a civil conversation.


As far as them being taggers as well, yeah I see what you mean..

I grew a big appreciation for graffiti and street art while in Germany last winter, which was what got me started on taking photos. Over there it is much more embraced so artists are given spaces to create very nice works.

Over here it's much more frowned upon and they have to resort to going places like this where they wont be bothered for a few hours. I don't agree with the vandalism of a location, but still have an appreciation for the artform. It is kind of conflicting really :/



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I have more respect for them than i do for straight-up vandals, but not a whole lot more.




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on my list is a time lapse set of an artist working.




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They may be vandalizing the place but you still have to respect them. What they do, and that piece in particular, is very hard to accomplish and places like these are virtually the best venues outside of public areas. And in a way they're showing respect by not defacing the side of a business or the roof of someones house. You can't categorize them as the people who come to these places for soul destruction or arson.




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They may be vandalizing the place but you still have to respect them. What they do, and that piece in particular, is very hard to accomplish and places like these are virtually the best venues outside of public areas. And in a way they're showing respect by not defacing the side of a business or the roof of someones house. You can't categorize them as the people who come to these places for soul destruction or arson.


Well, they deserve less disrespect than people doing the same stuff on a business or residence. As far as we know, these same people like to tag people's garage doors and burn documents they find in abandoned buildings.




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As far as abandoned buildings go: I really don't care what others are doing so long as lives/structural integrity/etc. are not being jeopardized, and police attention is not at risk of being drawn. I'd rather have some cool art to photograph than pass by another boring, blank wall.

It's all really temporary, anyway; the work will eventually get buffed if they reuse the building, or destroyed with the rest of it in demolition.



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I'd rather have some cool art to photograph than pass by another boring, blank wall.



I agree. I personally love graffiti, more on trains though. I know most people hate it and that's cool as well...



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Personally the only time I can appreciate graffiti is in drains.




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I agree. I personally love graffiti, more on trains though. I know most people hate it and that's cool as well...



yes sir.
Different strokes for different folks.
While I'm not personally a writer I follow graff a little closer than the average person and keep an eye out for the artists that stay up in my area.
I love it as an art and having a freighter run very close to my house doesn't help either.

If I ran in to artists inside I'd be asking for a tutorial. LOL
Guys work in the OP is pretty tight.

Check out "stomp down killaz" on youtube, them canadians throw up some wicked work.
Sofles has a couple pretty badass timelapses up there too.

Graff's not for everyone but those that "get it"… get it. Very much like exploring.




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I just jack in their faces. I think it helps show the decay in their morals, and many people agree with me that its art.




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I've only ever run into one - last summer. He seemed like a nice enough guy and I took some shots of his work which he requested be emailed to him. I did add in the message though that we generally try to preserve these places and not further add to their demise.

Maybe the words sunk in, maybe not.




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Posted by SpeedCheck out "stomp down killaz" on youtube, them canadians throw up some wicked work.



I love those videos, they're great! I'd love to bench one of his pieces some day...





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on my list is a time lapse set of an artist working.


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Depends on the place and what they are doing.

If it's an empty warehouse without a history, I wouldn't really be against them doing it. Especially if the graf is actually art, and not just like swastikas. But if it is a place with a history or significance, or is aesthetically pleasing, I would be against it. Though, graffiti "art" is better than straight up vandalism. IMO the artists seem to be more mindful of the location than taggers do.

That being said, I love me some good graffiti.



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I don't mind too much. Graffiti was what actually led me to urbex. A year and a half back, I took an interest in the nooks and cranies of cities- the alleys and the underside of bridges.

Naturally, this was where graffiti could be found, so I got interested in it. Not MAKING it, mind you, but seeing it. I would look for it, memorize where it was, and try to imagine what it was saying. I found all sorts of places, too- tagger hangouts, hobo camps, homeless gathering places, etc.

About nine months ago I was looking into graffiti art (Blanksky, Detroit, etc) when I stumbled across an urbex website. I looked around for more urbex information, and discovered that this was what I was looking for. Two weeks later, I went on my first abandonment exploration.

What I was really looking for was the underside of the city, the desanitized and raw parts- the paint, the decay, the stuff that you never see unless you look for it. It's a whole new world, and that's what I was looking for- something new to explore.




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on my list is a time lapse set of an artist working.


Not a time lapse but I made a video of a friend doing a graffiti once:

https://www.youtub...atch?v=Vm_fiQMRgU0

I was couchsurfing at their place in Bucharest and she and her boyfriend are graffiti artists. They often do commissioned murals but this is some abandoned place that is gonna be demolished soon so they go there to practice. I'm a big fan of exploring and looking at graffiti (never did any myself and not really planning to. I just like the exploring part) so I tagged along.

It was a fun day, that place has loads of really good graffiti.




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I know it's a matter of taste but when I see the piece in the first post I don't see any art! I see almost unreadable scribblings fucking up a nice wall. I know it takes skill but it's just not pleasing to the eye for me.

It depends on the place too, when it's a factory or something boring there's often not much damage done but I've seen similar pieces on the walls of 100 year old churches that otherwise would've been perfect. That really makes me sad.

In Belgium there is a boring and trashed school where two guys make beautiful art. That's the only way I like graffiti:
See http://www.g2photo...affiti-school.html or http://jalbum.net/.../1328518/group/259




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unreadable scribblings fucking up a nice wall.


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