Posted by esprod He asked if anyone wanted to... ...and if someone wants to share some ideas with him. He didn't ask for hand outs.
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Really? I don't know what you read, but I read a guy straight up asking where schools are at.
Posted by Gemcithippie I've always wanted to explore an abandoned school building... ...If anybody is in the area and knows of any, I'd be much obliged for the information...
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Posted by Relik those who ask for handouts.
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Posted by eprod No I've noticed people on here are douches to anyone who Isn't instantly an expert on the hobby.
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False. I'm new here. I wasn't an expert when I joined. No one was a douche to me. In fact, they were quite nice to me. I can be a real dumbass sometimes (i.e. there's a post or 2 that I wish I could have back) and, still no one was ever a douche to me).
I think that's because I followed the suggestions. The first one being to read the FAQs and browse through some threads to see how things work before I start contributing. So I did that.
Anyone who spends a little time in the UER will become an expert themselves in no time. Now I had a little bit of a headstart in that I have been jumping into buildings since I was a little kid. But that was just "doin' stuff". We had no idea that it was a "thing". We had no strategy, game plan, or logic of any sort in our behaviors. But, at the least, I had had some experience with some of the actions involved, but I was no expert, of course. But anyone who's spent even just a week diving into the wealth of tips, advice, and VAST knowledge of the public UER can, in no time, become their own expert. What I'm getting at is that you don't have to be an expert, the UER can make you one (I, however, still suck at UER-ing).
To say they douched at him for not being an expert is inaccurate. I think it was likely because he hasn't learned anything in his time, doesn't seem to have taken the suggestions, and is just blatantly (in public) asking where the schools are at. He did it in a polite manner. I'll give him that.
People say that you have to kiss peoples' ass to get in on the UER, they are all arrogant location hogs, and other stupid shit. SCENARIO: If I were looking for some copper scraps, or I wanted to spray paint a church, or I liked using needles in old schools, or whatever - Would I come to the internet, get to know strangers, and tell them about my own illegal actions? Of course not, I'd just openly ask for spots and hope someone bites. That's not to say that OP is any of those things. But how in the world can the UER community distinguish him from any of those unsavory characters? They can't - FACT... Unless, of course, they get to know a little about him FIRST. Therefore, it's not about ass-kissing. It's about letting people get to know you a little bit before they tell you where they have broken laws. Is that so unreasonable to ask for? I think not.
And, what better way to show them that you're the real deal than to let them see what you have found? "Oh but I'm new. I can't find anything". BS. As I said, use the knowledge of the UER and you WILL find stuff. That's what I did. It started with a shitty old burnt up barn and some graffiti on cement. It showed that I was trying, at the least, and I received nice comments. My locations got better as I continued to learn from this place and I continued to share them (oh another of the core suggestions).
Nowadays, I've been "handed" some absolutely fantastic locations without even asking for them. I'm so grateful for that.
In closing, It's not about these guys being dicks, douches, better than you, or anything like that. They just wanna know, with confidence, that you are like them and that you can be trusted. Wouldn't you want the same??