UER Mobile Forum

UER Mobile Forum UER Mobile - Not logged in
Home Search User Search Login Register
Messages New Posts Favourites Recent Posts Recent Views My LDB My Buddies

< (1)(2)[3](4)(5)(6)(7)(8)(9)(10)(11)(12)>
UER Mobile > In Memoriam > 06/15/08 - Ryan Nyenhuis dies at Hearn (Viewed 160890 times)

post by terapr0

Re: Hearn rescue
<Reply # 40 on 6/17/2008 1:12 AM >

wow. I think I know exactly what part they're talking about.
...Hearns a pretty sketchy place now days, but at least almost everything is still structurally sound...that place is built like a tank and they're gunna have to blow it up to get it to fall down. not like the upper catwalks at the brickworks. the fall might not be as large, but everything is way flimsier than Hearn - that place scares me way more. Im actually surprised no salvage workers have gotten hurt @ hearn yet....its one thing to visit, but looks like a real shitty place to work every single day.
I also dont know what coal elevator they said he fell off of...as mentioned before, they havent been there for yrs.

| Reply with Quote

post by NoSuchPerson

Stop, or I'll ask you again!

Re: Hearn rescue
<Reply # 41 on 6/17/2008 2:31 AM >

When Conundrum and Av went up the stack, myself and caesium did some 'recon' to make sure it was safe. It took them them, from the time of ascent until they were back on the ground, 4 hours or so.

| Reply with Quote

post by micro

Re: Hearn rescue
<Reply # 42 on 6/17/2008 3:20 AM >

And (from what I understand) it's been sealed up ever since.

| Reply with Quote

post by NoSuchPerson

Stop, or I'll ask you again!

Re: Hearn rescue
<Reply # 43 on 6/17/2008 4:24 AM >

It isn't sealed up, per say...they put a huge metal object infront of the door that isn't going to be moved without some kind of machine.

There is radio equipment for Toronto Police on the stack, so they can't permanently seal it.

| Reply with Quote

post by videonerd

Re: Hearn rescue
<Reply # 44 on 6/17/2008 4:51 AM >

A couple pics.... http://www.uer.ca/...=20005&galid=25105

Toronto fire had 15 trucks on scene for Ryan, tying up a lot of resources.

| Reply with Quote

post by NoSuchPerson

Stop, or I'll ask you again!

Re: Hearn rescue
<Reply # 45 on 6/17/2008 5:25 AM >

'Ryan' is screwed. Current billing rates for TFS are;
Pumper: $500
Rescue: $425
Squad: $750
Air Light: $600
Hazmat: $800
Tower: $550
Command 30: $800
District Chief: $400
Platoon Chief: $500

So, the bill which SHOULD be sent to this guy is going to total around $8000.

If he gets said bill, you can bet he'll hire a lawyer, and you can bet that lawyer will go after OPG who would be ordered to either demo or secure the hell out of the place - malt-plant styles.

The Malt is a good example of what happens when an incident gets the attention of the city officials...nobody was hurt during that one either.

| Reply with Quote

post by kowalski

Re: Hearn rescue
<Reply # 46 on 6/17/2008 11:44 AM >

Posted by exkalibur
'Ryan' is screwed. Current billing rates for TFS are;
Pumper: $500
Rescue: $425
Squad: $750
Air Light: $600
Hazmat: $800
Tower: $550
Command 30: $800
District Chief: $400
Platoon Chief: $500

So, the bill which SHOULD be sent to this guy is going to total around $8000.

If he gets said bill, you can bet he'll hire a lawyer, and you can bet that lawyer will go after OPG who would be ordered to either demo or secure the hell out of the place - malt-plant styles.

Forgive me, but do you actually do any of this stuff still, or do you get your kicks these days exclusively from coming on here and psychically undermining / giving the fear to those who do?

Since none of us know what happened, and nor at this rate are we likely to unless the victim or someone who knows him comes on here and tells us about it, I think it's really stupid and indefensible to be relishing the financial penalties that may come down on the guy, let alone speculating about what his response will be. Most of us have faced a non-zero potential for an accident of this nature on more than one occasion; personally speaking, I've put a foot through a metal floor and in a separate incident slid two hundred feet down an underground spillway at relatively high velocity. I think it's pretty tasteless to be speculating about how "screwed" the guy is.

Now, I don't usually pull out this 'reach into the heart of your activity' bullshit (I'm usually the one being accused of not being sympathetic enough to the aims and feelings of others). Similarly, you're probably too deeply sunk into your emergency services foaming to exhibit any genuine empathy. But I don't know, some measure of restraint could be imposed on the currently baseless scorn to which you're subjecting the guy. We don't know what happened, and this accident may very well have occurred outside of any deliberate decision and failure of observation he made that day short of not going into the upper levels of that plant. The hazard may have been difficult to spot or non-objective, the guy may have been as prepared and observant as you or I, and simply stepped onto the wrong spot during the wrong period in the building's history.

None of us who actually do this stuff are immune to the possibility of getting 'screwed' seven stories up an abandoned industrial building, and until there are facts on the ground that implicate a serious mistake of objective judgment in this accident, none of us should be acting as if we're better than the victim.

| Reply with Quote

post by argonian

Re: Hearn rescue
<Reply # 47 on 6/17/2008 12:31 PM >

This situation could possibly have happened to any of us here. I think some empathy would be nice. Personally, I worry for this fellow and hope he comes out of this ok. I certainly don't wish huge bills upon him.

| Reply with Quote

post by yokes

Re: Hearn rescue
<Reply # 48 on 6/17/2008 1:41 PM >

Agreed. He's quite fortunate to be alive.

| Reply with Quote

post by Lexi

Re: Hearn rescue
<Reply # 49 on 6/17/2008 2:33 PM >

Also, $8000 is a small price to pay for your life.

| Reply with Quote

post by cyn1c4l

Re: Hearn rescue
<Reply # 50 on 6/17/2008 4:14 PM >

Well, if Hearn gets demolished, at least I have a front row view from my balcony.

I"m glad this guy survived... his friend sounded responisble. Instead of panicking and running, they got in touch with the right people. This kind of responsibility points to "Ryan" et al, being one of ours, rather than stupid kids breaking in and drinking.

Yet more great proof as to why you don't go exploring alone.

| Reply with Quote

post by Ride My Pony

Accident at Hearn News Release
<Reply # 51 on 6/17/2008 5:47 PM >

Toronto Police Service
News Release
Industrial accident, 55 Division
Tuesday, June 17, 2008 - 9:15 AM
55 Division
416-808-5500
On Sunday, June 15, 2008,at 4 p.m., police received a call for an industrial accident at the Richard L. Hearn Thermal Generating Station.

It is reported that:

- two men, who are not employees at this site, gained access through a secure area of the building for the purposes of taking artistic photographs of the building's interior, which is currently undergoing demolition,

- they went to the sixth-floor catwalk where one of the men fell from an open area in the catwalk into an abandoned coal hopper directly below,

- emergency services were called and a search was initiated,

- the victim was located a short time later and emergency measures were enacted,

- the victim was extricated from the bottom of the coal hopper by members of Toronto Fire Services and was rushed to hospital with serious injuries.

The incident is currently being investigated by the Toronto Police Service and the Ministry of Labour.

Anyone with information is asked to contact police at 416-808-5500, Crime Stoppers anonymously at 416-222-TIPS (8477), or online at www.222tips.com

Constable Wendy Drummond, Public Information, for Detective Kim O’Toole, 55 Division

| Reply with Quote

post by SirJinx

Re: Accident at Hearn News Release
<Reply # 52 on 6/17/2008 5:50 PM >

Hope the guy is okay. It's real easy to trip over shit in the dark and I've also had fear of falling off catwalks and what not.

| Reply with Quote

post by Boffo

Moderator

Re: Hearn rescue
<Reply # 53 on 6/17/2008 5:58 PM >

Since it was the afternoon I'd bet it wasn't very dark at all inside. Still wondering how he fell off the catwalk... did it collapse or did he just not notice that they ripped that section down (usually leaving a stretch of cables across with a warning reading DANGER: OPEN HOLE or something similar).

| Reply with Quote

post by Axle

Re: Hearn rescue
<Reply # 54 on 6/17/2008 6:00 PM >

A scary reminder for us to watch where we're stepping when inside these places.

| Reply with Quote

post by yokes

Re: Hearn rescue
<Reply # 55 on 6/17/2008 6:11 PM >

I don't recall seeing coal hoppers (or don't recall them being as such).. where are they located?

| Reply with Quote

post by Air

Re: Hearn rescue
<Reply # 56 on 6/17/2008 6:23 PM >

Posted by Boffo
Since it was the afternoon I'd bet it wasn't very dark at all inside. Still wondering how he fell off the catwalk... did it collapse or did he just not notice that they ripped that section down (usually leaving a stretch of cables across with a warning reading DANGER: OPEN HOLE or something similar).

I've said this somewhere else, but the top level was being taken apart last time I went. It appeared as if it was being welded out bit-by-bit from the center out. It is dark up on that level, but if the construction lights weren't on, that could have contributed.

And like cyn1c4l said it was good this person wasn't alone. That is probably why he still alive. And better yet, the friend didn't take off.

Yokes, running east west on the highest level.

http://www.ntropy....x.php?showimage=49

| Reply with Quote

post by micro

Re: Hearn rescue
<Reply # 57 on 6/17/2008 6:27 PM >

Assuming they're still there,the actual hoppers are most likely these structures:

[last edit 6/17/2008 6:28 PM by micro - edited 1 times]

| Reply with Quote

post by kowalski

Re: Hearn rescue
<Reply # 58 on 6/17/2008 7:01 PM >

Another view, from 2004:

| Reply with Quote

post by yokes

Re: Hearn rescue
<Reply # 59 on 6/17/2008 7:15 PM >

duh. of course.

| Reply with Quote

Reply
< (1)(2)[3](4)(5)(6)(7)(8)(9)(10)(11)(12)>

This thread is in a public category, and can't be made private.

62 ms gen time