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UER Forum > Canada: Alberta / BC > Under the Garden City: Victoria B.C. secret tunnels. (Viewed 1883766 times)
J Peterman 


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Re: Under the Garden City: Victoria B.C. secret tunnels.
< Reply # 520 on 1/23/2006 6:05 AM >
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Yea, we have found things in Victoria...Its not at all as if the search is useless.

Victoria is rich in history both architecturally and satanically

Heres the coal shute and the the crawlspace.






Surekill don't you have a picture or two of inside that crawlspace you could post?




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ShadowCaster 


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< Reply # 521 on 1/23/2006 6:18 AM >
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Well, I got sidetracked and didn't check out the cemetary this weekend. But, hopefully I'll get a chance this week. The only tunnel I know about is one on Wharf Street, near the Johnson Street Bridge, but it's always half full of water and tekkers, so I've never bothered going in.

Where's that coal shute located? the cement around the manhole looks like it's just outside of Market Square.

Oh, and as for Mason Street, it's only a few blocks long. there are only a couple buildings on it that are old enough to have had any chance of having been built by the Masons. At one end of the street are some old, boarded up buildings, which I've been meaning to check out, and about halfway down the street is a church, which I've been in a few times, but I've never looked around for tunnels or anything.

Well, that's my useless contribution. You can all thank me later...




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< Reply # 522 on 1/23/2006 6:56 AM >
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So here's a couple shots from inside that crawlspace we found. I'd say it's only accessible at low tide...unless you have hip waders or like swimming.

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< Reply # 523 on 1/23/2006 8:08 AM >
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Thank you for blocking out his crack.

Thank you.




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< Reply # 524 on 1/23/2006 9:06 AM >
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I also send my deepest appreciation for your consideration in removing the crack. There are somethings better left un-explored. by the look of things it might have been quite a wide crack at that.





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< Reply # 525 on 1/23/2006 9:33 AM >
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I've been doing a little bit of online research and found this...
John Tod House
John Tod was born in Scotland and emigrated to Canada in 1811 where he rose to the position of chief fur trader with the Hudson's Bay Company. His house, located at 2564 Heron Street, is western Canada’s oldest house, completed in 1851. Tod built the house from local heavy timber, with pegged and dovetailed construction rare to the area. Since 1929 owners of the house have complained of ghostly activities and unexplained events. Rumours abounded of secret tunnels dug from the house to Oak Bay coves for the purposes of smuggling contraband – but the tunnels have yet to be discovered.

Anybody know anything about this?




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< Reply # 526 on 1/23/2006 9:36 AM >
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< Reply # 527 on 1/23/2006 4:17 PM >
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Let me guess, she can't remember where the entrance is, right?



She does, I just did not convey it well. N.




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< Reply # 528 on 1/23/2006 4:18 PM >
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Sounds a lot like the Ross Bay outflow to me. Accessable at low tide from a boat, goes underneath Dallas Rd, and then under the cemetery before it starts to get to small to comfortably navigate. An old storm drain tunnel made of brick, about 5 feet high.

I doubt it was used for rum running, but if you believe the book Michelle Remembers it may have been used to torture small children.


This is it. N.



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< Reply # 529 on 1/23/2006 8:55 PM >
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I would like to fan the flames a bit if you don't mind. So here it is. I work with a lady that grew up in Victoria. Says she has been in a tunnel that they accessed by boat somewhere beyond where the cruise ships come in.

( You will have to excuse my directions as I do not know Vic AT ALL ). apparently it is submerged at high tide, and heads up towards the old Cemetery or Dallas road in the James bay area? Does any of this sound right?.

She was vague to say the least and is somewhat of a bullshitter so I dunno. Prohibition tunnel that lead to seedy nightclubs?. N.



This woman is such a major bullshitter, I told her about this drain and she insists that the Ross Bay outflow is different than above mentioned tunnel. Any remote possibility of this guys?. N.




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< Reply # 530 on 1/24/2006 12:33 AM >
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nobody if she insists its different then why not give her the benefit of the doubt? I dont get it, isnt it easier to cut people slack, and atleast believe in the possibility, until you check it out first hand.

Instead of calling them a BSer, or saying that rumor and so and so is BS.

You get alot more leads and real evidence when giving people the benefit of the doubt.





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< Reply # 531 on 1/24/2006 4:34 AM >
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nobody if she insists its different then why not give her the benefit of the doubt? I dont get it, isnt it easier to cut people slack, and atleast believe in the possibility, until you check it out first hand.

Instead of calling them a BSer, or saying that rumor and so and so is BS.

You get alot more leads and real evidence when giving people the benefit of the doubt.




You are absolutely correct.




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< Reply # 532 on 1/24/2006 3:39 PM >
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nobody if she insists its different then why not give her the benefit of the doubt? I dont get it, isnt it easier to cut people slack, and atleast believe in the possibility, until you check it out first hand.

Instead of calling them a BSer, or saying that rumor and so and so is BS.

You get alot more leads and real evidence when giving people the benefit of the doubt.




You are absolutely correct, I rarely call people bullshitters, I just don't like her. N.




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< Reply # 533 on 1/24/2006 3:47 PM >
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Fixed to reflect the reality of most of the cases.

Posted by mavrix

You get alot more leads and real evidence unsubstantiated claims and utter nonsense when giving people the benefit of the doubt.




I'm not saying to automatically disbelieve people, but I'm saying to use common sense. Not everyone that makes a claim is telling the truth. Quite the contrary. Tons of people will make things up just to get attention, then stop talking when they're supposed to prove what they said.



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< Reply # 534 on 1/24/2006 3:53 PM >
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Fixed to reflect the reality of most of the cases.




I'm not saying to automatically disbelieve people, but I'm saying to use common sense. Not everyone that makes a claim is telling the truth. Quite the contrary. Tons of people will make things up just to get attention, then stop talking when they're supposed to prove what they said.



This women is exactly that. Wouldn't even entertain the thought that she may have been in a drain, just instantly dismissed it. N.




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< Reply # 535 on 1/24/2006 6:05 PM >
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Okay, so I talked to this lady and it is now an underwater cave we are talking about. It is ( she says ) quite a bit north of the Ross Bay outflow and is still used by divers to catch Octopus. Apparently the rear of the cave has been tunnelled up to some place, she doesn't know.

Her brother knows where it is and one of these days hopefully will get GPS coordinates. Hopefully this info is of use to somebody. N.




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< Reply # 536 on 1/24/2006 10:43 PM >
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Thanks Nobody, its interesting. You see now you were able to obtain more information about that tunnel.

See, yeah ppl bullshit, lie, have wrong info, but it doesnt matter. Feedback is feedback. Ther is no wrong information. Know what i mean? If someone tells you a lie, and you pretend to believe in them, and you finally are able to check it out. Then thers nothing ther. Its not a waste of time, its feedback. Mistakes and problems are good they show you that its wrong and wich direction to go next.

Anyhow, now we have a possibility of a cave. Thats what ive been talking about and that is very interesting. Because i showed ther are many caves and deep ones in the area. Its well known (to me atleast) that caves sometimes connect to old sewers, tunnels, etc and mines.


Sometimes when making the tunnels or mines or whatever, they breach into a cave tunnel network. Then again, when caves are found, and have long tunnels, why wouldnt someone in the know, possibly use this to connect to other tunnels ther building? Or use it themselves if they had a use. Its alot easier to use a cave tunnel then digging a tunnel.


For believing in her, you now have some new leads, cave, and octopus hunting. So you can follow up on the divers. Good nes pas?

Nobody, just be honest with people, dont seem demanding, promote honesty and they will be compelled to be honest with you. (in most cases)

Another way to judge if someones lieng, thers many ways, body language, asking specific questions, and noting what they want.

With close analyzing you can determine if they want attention, if they lie because ther pretending to be smart, if they lie because ther psychopathical liars, (these people make BIG claims)

people lie, for a reason. Always. Figure out ther reason and you can figure out if its a lie. No reason, No Lie. (in most cases)

its all a numbers game like everything else in the entire universe.

Cool leads though and try to follow up on them. Ask detailed questions like names, times, dates, to figure out if ther lieng.

Peace





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J Peterman 


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quite a bit north of the Ross Bay outflow


Thats umpossible. Anything *North* of *the* or *any* Ross Bay outflow is on land.

I'm looking at my maps here and it shows only 3 outflows around Ross Bay which protrude into the water. The rest are just along that wall off of Dallar Road. And arent walkable.



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For believing in her, you now have some new leads, cave, and octopus hunting. So you can follow up on the divers. Good nes pas?

Nobody, just be honest with people, dont seem demanding, promote honesty and they will be compelled to be honest with you. (in most cases)


I don't know about you Mavrix but I am dying for some Octopus (Seriously). I am glad you found that interesting, I too find it interesting. I appreciate your advice in these matters, and believe me when I say that I am as forthright and humble with people as I possibly can be, in most cases. N.




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Thats umpossible. Anything *North* of *the* or *any* Ross Bay outflow is on land.

I'm looking at my maps here and it shows only 3 outflows around Ross Bay which protrude into the water. The rest are just along that wall off of Dallar Road. And arent walkable.


Even as an underwater opening? I mean I do not really know the area AT ALL, sorry. N.





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