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< Reply # 1780 on 12/4/2007 12:01 PM >
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i too have lived here since a little age & found that out this year i knew i seen it but i know now a meaning
plus too say its erected is just like saying how the others in the Vatican have one ''erected'' or the separate city in London with its own laws & own flag along with how Washington dc does too & the Vatican where the Vatican is (highest degree popes bishops)
the district of Columbia is not Washington but Washington dc (district of Columbia) also packs quite a big package I'd say sky high above water all around it i forget where I'm talking about the name but I'm sure u maybe know what I'm at?

the obvious place in Washington with the big obelisk they have probably gaven by the French too like new yorks statue of liberty gaven by the French masons i'm not exact sure on that but its not too doubtable if Washington's or all them came from there , would have too look into it.

all three of these places run this chunk of dirt.


& then theres us
who knows but why we have it on the front lawn of the parliament obviously approved by our mayor our city & our queen

someone told me in in ross bay there are mason graves with obelisk , lots




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< Reply # 1781 on 12/4/2007 12:09 PM >
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-And the guy on No Print's bus that must be involved, somehow.




im sure if you live here in vic everyone has seen that particular guy everywhere if you notice the description
plus he far fetchly dresses so oddly oblivious you would literally call him quite thee odd fellow the guys pants skin tight white complexion rather than being a indian of the east .

- toad from mario bros big size looking purplish blue turban

bouncen on his head always

has a back pack usually
i don't even know this guy but i can pin point him in my brain by the millisecond if I'm too be watching my surroundings I've seen him like he tracks around literally everywhere & reading a book called the end of all time pretty much make s me lean on in deciding this guy belongs there. fuck he even was heading a ways too one the odd fellows near the bottom of esquimalt




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he also has a semi-scraggly long beard growing for something too wipe his ass with i don't know




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i too have lived here since a little age & found that out this year i knew i seen it but i know now a meaning
plus too say its erected is just like saying how the others in the Vatican have one ''erected'' or the separate city in London with its own laws & own flag along with how Washington dc does too & the Vatican where the Vatican is (highest degree popes bishops)
the district of Columbia is not Washington but Washington dc (district of Columbia) also packs quite a big package I'd say sky high above water all around it i forget where I'm talking about the name but I'm sure u maybe know what I'm at?

the obvious place in Washington with the big obelisk they have probably gaven by the French too like new yorks statue of liberty gaven by the French masons i'm not exact sure on that but its not too doubtable if Washington's or all them came from there , would have too look into it.

all three of these places run this chunk of dirt.


& then theres us
who knows but why we have it on the front lawn of the parliament obviously approved by our mayor our city & our queen

someone told me in in ross bay there are mason graves with obelisk , lots





I'm not sure why we have an obelisk here. I know that of the 100s of obelisks that were once in Egypt, most of them now stand in Britain (and France). Damn Imperialists. Long shot, but it could b Britain rubbing it in. Hahaha.


Are we talking about the Washington Monument?

"At age 21, in Fredericksburg, Washington became a Master Mason in the organization of Freemasons, a fraternal organization that was a lifelong influence."


Hm. Interesting.





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I'm not sure why we have an obelisk here. I know that of the 100s of obelisks that were once in Egypt, most of them now stand in Britain (and France). Damn Imperialists. Long shot, but it could b Britain rubbing it in. Hahaha.


Are we talking about the Washington Monument?

"At age 21, in Fredericksburg, Washington became a Master Mason in the organization of Freemasons, a fraternal organization that was a lifelong influence."


Hm. Interesting.




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"You could probably ask him," I said. "His bones are probably in a catalog box in the archives somewhere around here."





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im sure if you live here in vic everyone has seen that particular guy everywhere if you notice the description
plus he far fetchly dresses so oddly oblivious you would literally call him quite thee odd fellow the guys pants skin tight white complexion rather than being a indian of the east .

- toad from mario bros big size looking purplish blue turban

bouncen on his head always

has a back pack usually
i don't even know this guy but i can pin point him in my brain by the millisecond if I'm too be watching my surroundings I've seen him like he tracks around literally everywhere & reading a book called the end of all time pretty much make s me lean on in deciding this guy belongs there. fuck he even was heading a ways too one the odd fellows near the bottom of esquimalt


Well, that settles it, then! Find the east indian guy with the blue turban "bouncen on his head always" and we'll have this mystery solved and we can all move on to the next one.




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True story. Upon my first visit to the Royal BC Museum back in late '97, a friend remarked that it was a real shame that some of the totem poles in the gallery had been cut into smaller pieces. "I wonder what the carver thinks of his totem pole being cut in three for the sake of a museum?"

"You could probably ask him," I said. "His bones are probably in a catalog box in the archives somewhere around here."





I wouldn't doubt it. I wonder what other kind of neat stuff they have deep in the bowels of the museum though..




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Anyone else check out the daily communist today? They have an article on an old gun from 1915 a store owner found in Chinatown.




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Anyone else check out the daily communist today? They have an article on an old gun from 1915 a store owner found in Chinatown.


Yeah. Heard about it. Found in an attic or some such. But the gun is much older than 1915.




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Anyone else check out the daily communist today? They have an article on an old gun from 1915 a store owner found in Chinatown.


Saw the article, I was in that shop a few days ago. They let me look behind the scenes. Seem to recall asking about a basement last year, they said they don't rent it, or there isn't one. Hmm, new owner, should ask again. That gun and wrapping is a very cool find, confirms and feeds the gambling den, underworld Chinatown story nicely.

Maybe if they pull up some flooring it will reveal who ever the gun was used on





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DUH DUH DUHHHhhhhhh...... The plot thickens. Cool find...time to read the article.


















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Yo,
I found this ,,
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I wouldn't be surprised if we have a similar conduit, yet to be found.




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Find the purple turban before the next moonlight, ask him if he is the man with with the golden can, then quickly state "I love pistachios"


Tried that. Didn't work out well.




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If I can be serious for a minute. Okay, pardon but I really mean it. This alternate parallel universe thread has some really interesting stuff.

Just Check it out.

"If you look hard enough in the larger archives under the Royal BC museum Second, many Victoria blocks had a tunnels that went under the sidewalk and ..."

vicbc.tribe.net/thread/ c98b7f87-5bac-4918-9b0b-4327cbc0be6f - 129k - Cached - Similar pages\

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Great link, A. Lien! Some discussion on this thread awhile back about that location, but the bipolar party in 2003 looks like a good lead...I seem to remember the basement visit not panning out since the girlfriend no longer worked there or something. Don't recall.

In other news, I heard the Empress is giving tours of its basement sometime in the near future. Would it be worth going?


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"If you look hard enough in the larger archives under the Royal BC museum Second, many Victoria blocks had a tunnels that went under the sidewalk and ..."



Yes, under the sidewalk areaways. All over the place in Vancouver too. At some time I'm sure many were connected to make a tunnel of sorts, but today I would think most if not all are bricked off. If you were a business owner, would you want someone to have the ability to access the basement of your business? In Vancouver, as in Victoria I'm sure, several of the areaways have weakened over time. When that happens, the City will brick them off and fill them up with gravel or sand.




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Seriously...are we REALLY back on track?

A guy on Salt Spring Island told me about the tunnel he visited back mid-70's. Market Square, but not part of Market Square. Closer to the Junk Company thing. Might have been related to the cistern mentioned in Dr. Lai's book.




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Thanks Yoshkow, and good point Mowgli. I should have picked a better quote. Here are some.

All are quotes, I just blanked one persons name out of respect for their privacy. IMHO, there are a couple of intriguing stories here. I've been in the basements of the store(s) on Y*tes. The new and old, and several buildings around the corner on Fort. Quite amazing, but no skating rink.

Yes, common under sidewalk spaces are cool, well documented, and not really technically 'tunnels'.

However, we have seen and experienced enough other spaces to know we are on to tunnels and spaces, that do not fit the description of under sidewalk access areas.

The post on the people who entered the building on Pandora is quite intriguing. I wonder what they know. I'm still amazed how the condo project, (cough) fell through, what with our booming economy and massive amount of development/redevelopment. I think something spooked them.

The building was torched, the lot sits vacant. I mean, Market Square is just across the street. That site is in Chinatown. It's loaded with history, good and bad... They tanked and I really really really wonder why!!

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They do exist. My mother used to work for a division of the Victoria Police Department and was in them frequently.

There is nothing down there except garbage and dead rats. At least, there wasn't anything down there 10 years ago. From what I understand it is impossible to get in and the main passages of the tunnels are completely blocked off.

the only guy i know who has been in the tunnels was in 'em years ago, and he accessed them from the basement of the building on the south east corner of store and pandora. his buddy was working there and took him into the basement, where there was a set of stairs into a sub-basement. down there, a door led to a sloping passage, which as Ibby described, ran down to the waterfront so that the shops goods could be re-stocked direct from the ships in port.

I think some times peoples imaginations run wild . That said there has always been a large concentrtion of "Dark Arts" in Victoria . My uncle was the Chief of Police on the MainLand and there had been years ago an investigation of several missing students . There was a team of officers sent into the tunnels both under UVic and under Victoria . It was after that everything was walled up . He didn't give me details of what exactly was found down there but he didn't see, all so comftorable talking about it . Evidently a few of the officers got real freaked out as well. I don't know if he was just yanking my chain as he knew that I was the curious type and wanted to see what was down there but if that is the case what an excellent poker player he would make. As for the Masons who the hell knows what they are up to or want to for that matter!!

Good work XXXX! This is the closest to what I found out. I know of a bricked up entrance in the basement of a building at Fisgard and Store. An Oak Bay city worker I knew for several years told me about the tunnels he explored as a teenager. The load transport tunnels and cistern system honeycomb the downtown from Chinatown to Oak Bay, many of them along Fort Street. And the problem with exploring them gets larger with time, as many entrances are bricked, foundations filled, and new construction takes place. It wouldn't be out of line to wear hip waders and hardhats, and to expect a lot of dead ends.

One more set of tunnels that no one has yet mentioned. I'm not sure where they are but apparently there is a network of tunnels and bunkers that where to be used to by the provincial government if the japs ever decided to to invade the continent. Later on they where upgraded to nuclear bunkers in the case of nuclear war. They where built in order to house the government and the local army/navy. After the spectre of nuclear holocaust disappeared they were flooded. Recently a battalion of military engineers were supposed to pump them dry as a training exercise. They failed.. Hrmm! This is all hearsay from a friend of mine who is a captain at the armoury. Anyone know anything about these tunnels? Oh yeah.. one more thing... Apparently the air vents can be idenfitied as big metal cylindars sticking out of the ground with a metal fin on top of them (so that a nuclear blast would swing the air intake away from the blowing radioactive wind).. anyone see any of these things?

chinatown: We broke into the old pandora squat last year or so, and we came in from the roof, the part of us in front of us was half collapsed and the other part to the right was open and had some floor beams it seemed like a halway. With our candles and lighters we made our way along then dropped down into a space that we had to crawl in, we crawled along for a few feet then a moment later we were poking our heads out of a cupboard and looking into a kitchen it was quite alice an wonderland feel.......so that was yth that was quite real. Also some friends were poking around in the sewers by the empress downtown and got into an sewer much like a tunnel they were apprehended almost immdiately.....sheesh.
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