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UER Forum > Canada: Alberta / BC > Under the Garden City: Victoria B.C. secret tunnels. (Viewed 1883850 times)
J Peterman 


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< Reply # 920 on 6/29/2006 2:21 AM >
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Hey Mathhias, you can really just walk into Bowker Creek anywhere and follow it North. It's just something you'll hit by traversing it, its not that long. It's the creek that runs through Victoria which you've probably seen at one point or another. Large square-cement entrance. Try walking in at the portion of the creek behind Richmond Elementary School. There are also a number of manholes but these are to much trouble to use as access points if you can just walk in with rubber boots/hipwaders. Cheers




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So 999 is the magic number, hoo-ray! Look folkes, time to break out the cashhhh, pay the homeless to take you if need be. Or the satanic submariners, or bloody puff the magic dragon! You can do it!




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So 999 is the magic number, hoo-ray! Look folkes, time to break out the cashhhh, pay the homeless to take you if need be. Or the satanic submariners, or bloody puff the magic dragon! You can do it!


Money ain't gonna cut it. They'll tell you all about them for cash, but getting someone to take you inside is another matter.

One guy told me that he'd never take anyone inside for the simple reason that doing so would amount to open season on thier space.

The real trick would be for someone to infiltrate their community and THEN follow someone inside. Otherwise, tourists are not welcome.




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< Reply # 923 on 6/29/2006 3:37 PM >
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The real trick would be for someone to infiltrate their community and THEN follow someone inside. Otherwise, tourists are not welcome.


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< Reply # 924 on 6/30/2006 12:57 AM >
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Thanks J!




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< Reply # 925 on 6/30/2006 5:54 PM >
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Hello all! Long time, no see and all that.
I saw this article in the paper yesterday and thought that I'm probably not the only one interested in it.


Tour of history

Grania Litwin, Times Colonist
Published: Thursday, June 29, 2006
Ever wonder what secrets lurk behind those interesting facades you stroll or roll by every day?

What does the interior of the Chinese Taoist temple look like? How do you penetrate the subterranean Chapel of St. Michael in Christ Church Cathedral? Is it true that Capital Iron was once a rice mill, and do the Odd Fellows really have thrones in their grand hall?

The answers to all these questions and more will be revealed on Saturday -- Canada Day --when a richly varied collection of 11 historic downtown buildings open their doors from 11 a.m. to 3 p.m. for self-guided or guided tours. The buildings that offer guided tours will begin them every half hour on a first-come-first-served basis.

Open the Doors to History! is free and a first for this city, although the idea came from back east.

"There are some absolute treasures, some real gems in this city," says Ken Kelly, general manager of the Downtown Victoria Business Association. "And very seldom, if ever, does the public get to go inside and see the splendours. The beauty of this event is people are not simply looking inside wonderful old buildings, but in many cases they can have a guided tour and colour commentary."

There will also be entertainment and refreshments at several locations.

"I think it will be a blast," Kelly says.

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1. The Masonic Hall, 650 Fisgard St.

Check out this 1878 building's domed ceiling, studded with stars as seen during summer solstice over Jerusalem. Tours will include the banqueting hall, historic antiques, large lodge room, and two extraordinary wooden pillars whose orbs on top represent the celestial and terrestrial worlds. Spokesman Laurence Johnson notes there are plenty of interesting details such as a carpet specially woven with the Masonic motif. Free coffee and donuts will be served.

2. Taoist Temple, 1713 Government St.

If you have the legs to climb 52 steps, the temple at the top is well worth it, although perhaps not for those with allergies, as the incense is thick in the air. Victoria's only Chinese Taoist temple features a shrine to Tam Kung, the patron saint of Hakka-speaking fishermen in the Hong Kong area, who died in 1279. His image was brought to Victoria in the early Gold Rush days and is housed in the Yen Wo Society's building.

3. The Independent Order of Odd Fellows Hall, 1315 Douglas St.

This building's plain-jane exterior belies its lavish interior and grand meeting hall, complete with frescoed ceiling and thrones. Members of this men's fraternal organization, founded in England in the 1700s, meet here along with members of the sister organization, the Rebeccas. Vice-Grand Ken Mowers says the tour will reveal Odd Fellows' symbolism, ceremonial significance, displays of beautiful century-old leather-bound books, the main hall, dining room, newly restored billiard room and mini-museum. The Odd Fellows -- who own the whole block, from Bank of Nova Scotia to 7-Eleven, and fill most of the top floor -- will give tours and offer coffee and refreshments.

4. Church of Our Lord, Blanshard at Humboldt

This neo-Gothic church first opened its doors in 1876 and was founded by Bishop Edward Cridge. Former University of Toronto history professor Sylvia Van Kirk will dress in period costume for her fascinating tours that reveal the building's architecture, stained glass, beamed ceiling, old Appleton organ and colourful history -- including stories of Emily Carr and Sir James Douglas's youngest daughter, who carved the pulpit (detail, left). As a bonus, there will be strawberry shortcake and tea in the hall from 1:30 to 4:30 p.m., for $5.

5. McPherson Playhouse, Government at Pandora

Lots of people have enjoyed shows here, but there is plenty of history, too, in the 1912 structure, including elaborate plaster decorations and other details. Tours will offer a little "light entertainment," promises Lloyd Fitzsimonds, executive director of the Royal and McPherson Theatres Society. The improvisation and comedy team of Spilt Milk will perform a fast-paced snapshot of theatre life in Victoria during the early years.

6. St. Andrew's Presbyterian Church, Douglas at Broughton

The stunning Dunsmuir rose window, large barrel ceiling, beautiful woodwork and balcony are among the charms of this 1889 church -- but an added attraction on Saturday afternoon will be mini-concerts by The Moodyville Tales.

"The natural acoustics in this space are amazing," explains David McLean, who notes the carpet was taken up recently to bring the 750-seat space even more alive.

7. Christ Church Cathedral, Quadra at Rockland

If you're not sure where Christ Church Cathedral is, just listen for the sound of a harp and follow it to the steps of Victoria's largest church structure, built in the 1920s in a style similar to Notre Dame in Paris. The impressive interior features soaring columns and vaulted ceiling, but in this self-guided tour visitors can also see the Chapel of the New Jerusalem with its huge stained-glass window, and the subterranean Chapel of St. Michael.

8. Capital Iron, 1900 Store St

Most Victorians know how the inside of this store looks, but company historian Ron Greene will take people deep inside the history of this 1863 heritage treasure, which was originally built as a rice mill. He will show visitors cast-iron columns and 40-metre long roof supports, each made from only two beams.

"Each beam is 60 feet long and 14 inches square -- you just don't see wood like that anymore," says Greene, who will also tell how the building became a retail outlet for items salvaged off boats dismantled nearby.

9. Victoria Conservatory of Music, Pandora at Quadra St.

Built in 1890 as Metropolitan Church, this building then became Metropolitan United in the 1920s, and more recently morphed again into the home of the Victoria Conservatory of Music. Alix Goolden Hall, with its beautiful coloured glass and immense rose window, is an 800-seat performance space that occupies the former sanctuary. Student musicians will play during tours.

10. Hudson's Bay, Heritage Gallery, 4th floor, downtown

The Hudson's Bay Company's Heritage Gallery is one of only two in-store museums in Canada. The gallery draws on the Bay's long history as a fur-trading company dating back to 1670. Exhibits feature a trading post, an interactive map of the Empire of the Bay and reproductions from the Bay's collection.

11. Legislative Buildings, Inner Harbour

Tour organizer Pamela Welch says there will be 35-minute guided tours from 9 a.m. to noon, and from 1 to 5 p.m. Tours begin on the driveway, and tickets are free, but must be obtained from staff in green uniforms. Guests will see two rotundas, the reception hall, legislative chamber and cameo appearances by students dressed as Sir James Douglas, Queen Victoria, Amor de Cosmos and more.


So while most sound kinda lame, and some are already open year round, it's a pretty good opportunity to get inside some of the places we usually cannot and check them out at our own leisure. If you do decide on going, bring a camera and take lots of pics, as I unfortunately will not be here this weekend.




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J Peterman 


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< Reply # 926 on 6/30/2006 6:37 PM >
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Sounds TIGHT. unfortunately I will be floating down Cowichan river in a tube. Cold one in hand. Getting a nice toasty tan and stopping along the way for the occasional cliff-dive.

SeeyouontheriveR

Happy pre-mature CanadaDay

Any of you want to set up a large exploration soon? Shout me a holla.




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Sounds TIGHT. unfortunately I will be floating down Cowichan river in a tube. Cold one in hand. Getting a nice toasty tan and stopping along the way for the occasional cliff-dive.

SeeyouontheriveR

Happy pre-mature CanadaDay

Any of you want to set up a large exploration soon? Shout me a holla.


Yep. Just got off a plane from T-Dot. Back in the Garden city.




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< Reply # 928 on 7/4/2006 2:47 AM >
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Welcome home K.K.

If you had time for any Eastern UE, will the posts be listed here or there, both perhaps? Even if too busy for exploring, sounds like you met some cool people, with good tunnelicious stories.

What would be a cool Victoria UE thing this summer? Meeting at an abandoned place or structure, and having a meet, and (meat) or seafood barbeque on location. Well, maybe there's a place...(I know one but have to keep it PM for obvious reasons)

Anyone remember that old Supertramp album cover: Crisis? What Crisis? Yah, something about rooftops.

Cheers,

A.





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That's awesome

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< Reply # 930 on 7/5/2006 1:23 AM >
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Yesterday I successfully traversed a considerable length of bowker creek, from richmond school to the other side of hillside mall.


Having completed this, I'm hoping to next go to the burrow of the beast.

If anyone can supply me with some directions, it would be much appreciated, as there doesnt seem to be any source on the web that can tell me how to get there.

Also, when i came up out of the creek, i went around the backside of sears. It looks pretty easy to get up top, has anyone been?

Thanks,
Matthias

P.S.

Are there as many spiders in the Burrow of the Beast as there are in the bowker creek culverts? Yuk.

Edit: The part i went through includes the Hall of Wonders



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Are there as many spiders in the Burrow of the Beast as there are in the bowker creek culverts? Yuk.



Yes. They're bigger. And they have fangs like pointy little needles.




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It's the gelatinous cubes that'll get ya! Oh god, and the Spores!

Burrow is a guarded secret. Don't expect directions.

I once saw a giant wolf spider in the bowker creek tunnel. Size of my hand!




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Burrow is a guarded secret. Don't expect directions.




Ahhh, alrighty.

I will have to try and find it on my own, although.....hints are appreciated almost as much as directions


I'm pretty sure some of those spiders down there are black widows




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I'm pretty sure some of those spiders down there are black widows



Really? What makes you so sure?




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Really? What makes you so sure?


Ok, so I'm MEDIUM sure

I saw three kinds of spiders down there,

1. Wolf spiders

2. Odd spindly white ones (with scarily long front legs)

3. Black widows, or what I may have mistaken to be black widows

Edit: P.S. If you are planning to go down into the culverts, I highly recommend a hat, or one of those electrical bug-zapper-tennis-racket-kinda-things






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I am looking for the Burrow of the Beast--

..guarded secret or not, I realize that the directions are accessible.
If this information could be released to me, or any relative information at all, you would have my utmost gratitude.

I have few sources for directions.

This could be done in a more private fashion.


Please!



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They are not black widows. They are cob web weavers. Dark burgandy in color they look almost exactly the same as black widows except they don't have the red violin shaped marking. The cob web weavers are good as they naturally prey on the Hobo spider (which is poisonous).

http://www.srv.net...ider/steatoda.html




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They are not black widows. They are cob web weavers. Dark burgandy in color they look almost exactly the same as black widows except they don't have the red violin shaped marking. The cob web weavers are good as they naturally prey on the Hobo spider (which is poisonous).

http://www.srv.net...ider/steatoda.html




Very informative, thanks.


Except it says that the spiders are around 9mm at largest, the spiders that i saw were somewhere around 2cm long




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It probably wasn't a wolf spider that I saw in Bowker now that I think of it. It looked like a huge funnel web spider or Hobo spider. I couldn't really tell. It was lighter in color and very long. Biggest spider I've ever seen!




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