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Re: supercollider facility away from main campus
<Reply # 40 on 6/9/2006 11:53 PM >
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Re: supercollider facility away from main campus
<Reply # 41 on 6/10/2006 7:31 PM >
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I wouldn't think it would take more than a couple of inches differential to cause real problems, and the longer the tunnel, the greater opportunity for damage. I'm with you in guessing that the shotcrete wasn't spec'd for water, but they may have been a step ahead of us here. ...... They would surely last longer if they were still being used and kept dry, but that isn't the case.

As far as the TBM, tough call. When the Chunnel was completed in Europe, the French machines were taken apart and removed, but the British one was driven into rock and abandoned.


The material used to line the walls was waterproof, need to keep it from leaking IN, now the problem is obviously as stated it was never designed to withstand the tunnel itself being full of water so who knows how long it will stand up. I think it's crazy they filled it with water due to the liability and alot of others in the science community agreed at the time I'm told. There was/is alot of concern on what happens as you say 50 years from now if it caves in with a housing development on top of it.

As far as the TBM goes I was told it was dismantled and removed by someone who was one of the the Senior Project Managers on the job, He used to run the office where I worked.

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Re: supercollider facility away from main campus
<Reply # 42 on 6/11/2006 6:14 AM >
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I went by this location, we got inside, the owner of the property is using the first 20 feet for storage. and the rest is empty except for a big water cooler about every 10 feet up on the wall. What were they cooling with all this water? one of the big pipes on the wall was labeled "LCW" whats that mean? lake cold water? There were small tunnels on the left of the building every 20 feet or so going down at an angle. at the bottom of each was water. towards the end of the building the tunnels get bigger and bigger. At the very end there's a pit with an elevator that is full of water. there's stairs going down. Is that an entrance to the tunnels? I don't get how you could fill all of the tunnel with water. that's a lot of water.

who had a map of all the different buildings? pm me!

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Re: supercollider facility away from main campus
<Reply # 43 on 6/11/2006 11:14 AM >
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I don't get how you could fill all of the tunnel with water. that's a lot of water.



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Re: supercollider facility away from main campus
<Reply # 44 on 6/11/2006 7:29 PM >
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you could see the bottem of the water, i dont think it was deep enoughf to go to the tunnle. has anyone seen the acthual tunnle under water? or an real entrance to it? Where is the location in the middle of the feild? with the tin lids on it?

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Re: supercollider facility away from main campus
<Reply # 45 on 6/12/2006 7:23 PM >
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The material used to line the walls was waterproof, need to keep it from leaking IN, now the problem is obviously as stated it was never designed to withstand the tunnel itself being full of water so who knows how long it will stand up. I think it's crazy they filled it with water due to the liability and alot of others in the science community agreed at the time I'm told. There was/is alot of concern on what happens as you say 50 years from now if it caves in with a housing development on top of it.



I agree that there is a concern about the tunnel compromising the ground above. Thats why I suggest a collaborative effort by viewers of this thread to solicite the respective U.S. Representative and Senator for the Ellis County area to get the pumps working and drain the tunnels. We could simply front ourselves as concerned citizens from the area. Perhaps get residents and travelers from that area to jump on board with a local grassroots effort. This would be very inexpensive and would only require a concentrated group effort. It is worth a shot. Perhaps, collectively, we could persuade the powers that be to operate the pumps again as a safety and property damage issue (which would be helpful in itself) and then explorers could have access to the tunnel.


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Re: supercollider facility away from main campus
<Reply # 46 on 6/12/2006 7:56 PM >
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Posted by bkblonghorn


I agree that there is a concern about the tunnel compromising the ground above. Thats why I suggest a collaborative effort by viewers of this thread to solicite the respective U.S. Representative and Senator for the Ellis County area to get the pumps working and drain the tunnels. We could simply front ourselves as concerned citizens from the area. Perhaps get residents and travelers from that area to jump on board with a local grassroots effort. This would be very inexpensive and would only require a concentrated group effort. It is worth a shot. Perhaps, collectively, we could persuade the powers that be to operate the pumps again as a safety and property damage issue (which would be helpful in itself) and then explorers could have access to the tunnel.






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Re: supercollider facility away from main campus
<Reply # 47 on 6/12/2006 9:00 PM >
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Posted by generic0
you could see the bottem of the water, i dont think it was deep enoughf to go to the tunnle. has anyone seen the acthual tunnle under water? or an real entrance to it? Where is the location in the middle of the feild? with the tin lids on it?


Just drive the back roads and keep your eyes open. You will see them, they're not hidden. They are in fields on private property. Like I said earlier, you have to broaden your search to areas beyond the SSC Lab and the Linear Accelerator bldg. These "Tin Lids" are only padlocked, so one could gain access to them fairly easy. You would only need to worry about the property owners and there guns and there dogs and the sheriffs dept and the Dept of Energy and TXU and Atmos Energy and the infamous BV-B SUD Gestapo....
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Re: supercollider facility away from main campus
<Reply # 48 on 6/12/2006 9:16 PM >
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Posted by bkblonghorn


I agree that there is a concern about the tunnel compromising the ground above. Thats why I suggest a collaborative effort by viewers of this thread to solicite the respective U.S. Representative and Senator for the Ellis County area to get the pumps working and drain the tunnels. We could simply front ourselves as concerned citizens from the area. Perhaps get residents and travelers from that area to jump on board with a local grassroots effort. This would be very inexpensive and would only require a concentrated group effort. It is worth a shot. Perhaps, collectively, we could persuade the powers that be to operate the pumps again as a safety and property damage issue (which would be helpful in itself) and then explorers could have access to the tunnel.





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Re: supercollider facility away from main campus
<Reply # 49 on 6/12/2006 9:56 PM >
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I was reading last and they compleated like 5 deferent sites. I relly need a good map of the project. I cant find one anywhere. I only know of 3 the 2 that there are pics of and the huge bulding of of hwy 77 that go bought.

The 2 sites that there are pics of thers not much there, In the magnet developement lab theres a lot of random vandalism and 2 decent sized safes in one room. both locked, i wouldn't think thered be anything in them but who knows!! there relly heavy probably 300lbs or so. There was another room with a bunch of blueprints thrown around but non of them looked usfull. no maps.

In one of the other buildings on the n15 site theres 2 stairwells that go into a room direcly below the flore. theres about 10 inches of water on the ground. theres 2 steal weights marked 5 ton dropped down the stair well holding the dore at the bottom of the stair well open. There was some more random power equpment but it was otherwise empts and no tunnel access.

From what ive read the 3 big holes outside were the only access on the n15 site.

Also i think i saw some pics where the lights were on in somebodies pics of the long bulding and the magnet lab. the pics said 2003 on them and i think there were boxes stacked up in the mangnet lab. ans in the long skinny bulding there pics show it being empty, now there a bunch of office furniture stored there along with some old computers (with hard drives). So why were the lights on in 2003?
There was a texas monthly in a pile of papers that was from 1999 i thought the place was closed in 94 or something?




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Re: supercollider facility away from main campus
<Reply # 50 on 6/13/2006 1:52 AM >
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Hello. It is nice to see someone willing to have a mature discussion about the SSC instead of the same old crap from 2x and others who want to play childish games and insult people just because they are insecure about questions or new ideas. Perhaps it is best that the tunnel just rot and collapse. That way no one gets to explore it. They think my idea is silly, but I havent seen them throw out any gems. It may not be the best idea, nor is it necessarily intended to be. Instead, it is meant to generate discussion about how or if the tunnels could ever be cleared of water and eventually explored. Why not? There is a pump system in place right? Maybe someone has a better idea or maybe everyone is resigned to never accessing the tunnels. I dont know what their problem is, but I rather enjoy sharing my knowledge with others. If I know something of interest and someone else doesnt, then I have no problem telling them instead of chastising them about finding it on their own. I guess I'm just more friendly. Anyway, you seem to know a lot about the SSC and, based on what you posted, it seems as though you have seen many recent pictures. Where or how did you get your information? You are not a full member here so how or where did see the pictures? I would love to see them but I havent been able to get access to them.

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Re: supercollider facility away from main campus
<Reply # 51 on 6/13/2006 1:55 AM >
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Re: supercollider facility away from main campus
<Reply # 52 on 6/13/2006 3:06 AM >
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Well, i just googled it and spent a good half-hour reading about that project. Wow. . . i can't even begin to decipher what the hell a superconductive supercollider if meant to do, but it sure sounds interesting. I'd love to see what that place looks like now!

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Re: supercollider facility away from main campus
<Reply # 53 on 6/13/2006 3:30 AM >
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Posted by ExploringOhio
Well, i just googled it and spent a good half-hour reading about that project. Wow. . . i can't even begin to decipher what the hell a superconductive supercollider if meant to do, but it sure sounds interesting. I'd love to see what that place looks like now!


Be careful with your post. According to 2x your good half-hour is not nearly enough to justify coming on here and commenting or asking questions. I think he expects a person to study it extensively and have a dissertation on the subject published before they can dare approach this forum with questions or discussion. So please be prepared or else you will have to deal with his intolerance and backlash.
Maybe I can save him the trouble of expending energy in his fingers in case he reads your post by replying for him.
From 1/2xexploring: You must be lost or an idiot. Clearly you dont have a clue so I'll provide one for you then your on your own. Stop everything else going on in your life and exhaust yourself looking up public information. I have no life outside exploring and trying to pick up chicks on related websites (see Thurber thread in South forum). I expect nothing less from all of you. Quit your job, dont pursue a higher education, leave your wife and kids and go dig through a massive amount of public information dam it. There wont be any short cuts here!

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Re: supercollider facility away from main campus
<Reply # 54 on 6/13/2006 3:35 AM >
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Oh, almost forgot. Here is the typical response you will see from 1/2x's lapdog, Allva.

From Allpo: I think... I am... a jackass...

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Re: supercollider facility away from main campus
<Reply # 55 on 6/13/2006 4:18 AM >
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Posted by bkblonghorn


I have no life outside exploring and trying to pick up chicks on related websites (see Thurber thread in South forum).


chicks dig real explorers

I think you should try to settle down now all this talk about the SSC has got you all worked up, tenacious is right ! grwwwwwwr....




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Re: supercollider facility away from main campus
<Reply # 56 on 6/13/2006 5:50 AM >
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Re: supercollider facility away from main campus
<Reply # 57 on 6/13/2006 12:27 PM >
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Posted by bkblonghorn

From 1/2xexploring: You must be lost or an idiot. Clearly you dont have a clue so I'll provide one for you then your on your own. Stop everything else going on in your life and exhaust yourself looking up public information. I have no life outside exploring and trying to pick up chicks on related websites (see Thurber thread in South forum). I expect nothing less from all of you. Quit your job, dont pursue a higher education, leave your wife and kids and go dig through a massive amount of public information dam it. There wont be any short cuts here!


hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. your finally getting the hang of this!

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<Reply # 58 on 6/13/2006 2:41 PM >
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C'mon 2X.
You too Allva...
Stop playin' with the kids and come back to the adults table...

I'm a blatant waste of time and resources.
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Re: supercollider facility away from main campus
<Reply # 59 on 6/13/2006 8:58 PM >
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Posted by Barry Kooda
C'mon 2X.
You too Allva...
Stop playin' with the kids and come back to the adults table...


Aw man. We were having so much fun. Come on Barry, tell us where you hid the keys to the tunnel...

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