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UrbanDK
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Maybe she's born with it. Maybe it's methamphetamine.
| | | Re: First Aid Kit and Injuries? < Reply # 24 on 10/17/2018 4:06 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by Mr. Bitey
Every explorer should get a Tetanus shot! They are good for 7-11yrs. If you aren't sure when the last one was, there is no harm in getting another. Ask your Dr. at your next check up! If you haven't been inoculated, and do get ripped on some rusty metal like UrbanDK, get yourself to a Dr. or clinic within 48hrs and get the shot. Tetanus is no joke!
| Totally second this. Also, remember that in the US, confessing to urbexing to your doctor will remain confidential. Sure, there's no need to tell doctors that you were in a place you shouldn't have been and you can just say you got cut on some rusty metal, but even if you have to go into detail you won't have to worry about any legal trouble. Physicians are required to report things like murder, not urbex. It's just not a big enough deal, so stay safe, guys.
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| Dee Ashley
Location: DFW, Texas Gender: Female Total Likes: 1378 likes
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| | | | Re: First Aid Kit and Injuries? < Reply # 25 on 3/4/2019 5:10 AM > | Reply with Quote
| | | I keep it super simple in my backpack (pretty much just tissue, sanitizer, bandaids, and maybe a couple single-use Neosporin pouches) and I keep more comprehensive (but not overkill for someone that has no medical experience what-so-ever) first aid kit in the back of my Jeep. I keep the kit in an oversized bag so there's room for useful secondary things like sunscreen, a small hand crank radio, Benadryl (itches, stings, allergies), and Technu (in case of poison ivy contact), and a few other handy things. Another thing I always keep in my vehicle kit is an epi-pen. These are prescription only, but most doctors don't mind writing a script for one if you ask. I grew up thinking I was allergic to bees because I was attacked and almost died when I was seven years old. Turns out, I'm not allergic but I still keep the epi-pen because someone else might be and it could very well save their life. They're very expensive but I have good insurance, so it's worth the small co-pay, IMO. I was on an explore a couple years ago with someone when we stumbled across a wasp's nest. Fortunately, it was still late winter/early spring and it was nighttime, so we didn't get stung, but he was so allergic that he would have died if he had gotten stung and we couldn't get him treated timely treatment (like within minutes). Why he didn't mention this before we headed out or why he didn't carry his own epi is beyond me, but that night reminded me why I keep that thing in my car just in case. I'll probably never use it, but it's worth having around.
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| | | | Re: First Aid Kit and Injuries? < Reply # 26 on 3/4/2019 7:37 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | ●Iodine is broad spectrum germicide that bacteria never gain resistance or at the best very limited. Iodine will not impede healing. I prefer Tincture of Iodine (colorless iodine) however povidone (used to prep for surgical incisions too) is excellent. https://www.scienc.../S1743919117305368 ●Gentien violent is a germicide purple dye. Effective against MRSA and strong antifungal properties. Best not to use on large open lacerations or mucus membranes. Will knock out ringworm, athlete's foot and jock itch straight out. https://www.o-wm.c...-violet-1-solutionhttps://www.scienc.../S0197457210004908 I've used both for many decades with excellent results. Both should be in 1st aid kit. Lol, got some of both on minor cuts right now. These are better first line defenses than antibiotic ointments. Better than alcohol as both provide germicidal action long after application. Neosporin is ototoxic; avoid prolong, repeated use and never put in ears or on large areas of skin!
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| NMPatriot
Location: Las Cruces, New Mexico Gender: Male Total Likes: 28 likes
| | | | Re: First Aid Kit and Injuries? < Reply # 31 on 5/17/2019 8:55 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | There's no point in carrying anything that you (or those exploring with you) aren't trained and comfortable using. I've seen people with nothing more than Red Cross First Aid & CPR carrying kits containing items that you'd need to be an Intermediate EMT or Paramedic to actually utilize. It's a waste of space / weight. Stick with what you need and what you know. What I take with me, on any given day, depends on where I'm going. There really isn't much of anywhere I go without at least a small "blow out kit" consisting of a pressure dressing, gloves, roll of tape and a packet of celox powder all in a heavy gallon zip-lock bag rolled / folded with a tourniquet around it so it's a small contained unit. That's mostly because I carry and I think it's irresponsible for anyone to carry a weapon without being to at least rudimentarily provide aid to the injury caused by it. The tourniquet, celox & pressure dressing are of course usable for any deep / jagged gashes or other injury causing severe bleeding. It's a small kit that can be carried in a cargo pocket, but usually resides in my messenger/laptop bag. If I'm going to be out for the day exploring then it's the blow out kit plus a small "it's not really an emergency" kit. That's things like assorted band-aids, 2" roll gauze, additional gloves, XL alcohol wipes (4"x5"), packets of neosporin, excedrin, benadryl and ibuprofen. Other than band-aids, the most used items in that kit in the past have been the excedrin, gloves and alcohol wipes. Gloving up and wiping down with the XL alcohol wipes have saved me several times after realizing that I was wearing shorts knee-deep in poison ivy while backcountry hiking. It doesn't completely get rid of the oil, but it does a good job in getting the majority of it off. After showering if I end up with small reactions from the ivy the following day I wipe it down with a stick of anti-perspirant deodorant (then discard the stick, accidentally transferring urushiol oil to your armpits would suck). It helps dry it out better than calamine and reduces the length you're in misery. Not really something I have to worry about now that I'm living in a desert climate. My vehicle is where my actual trauma kit remains unless I have reason to carry it. It would have to be one HELL of a sketchy / risky exploration to warrant carrying it, which is something that's literally never happened although I've had to hump it around many times on SAR missions. Just my $0.02 Ric
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| NMPatriot
Location: Las Cruces, New Mexico Gender: Male Total Likes: 28 likes
| | | | Re: First Aid Kit and Injuries? < Reply # 34 on 5/17/2019 9:42 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by blackhawk ... squirting blood isn't fun...
| (bit off topic) You aint kidding! I got dispatched one night to an "unknown injury" at a local hotel. Arrived on scene to find a mid-twenties guy walking around the lobby of the hotel with defensive slash wounds to both forearms where he'd held his arms up to protect himself. Turns out he got into a fight with his BROTHER over a hooker they had in their hotel room. The hotel was a fairly decent 4 star. The kind of place that had marble floors and close to 12ft ceilings in the lobby. Poor guy had not only sprayed blood all over the lobby but had managed to get the ceiling. Hotel security guard was "rendering aid" when I got there and was literally covered nose to shoes in blood, wasn't gloved up and was absolutely freaked out by the whole ordeal. The hooker was following the patient around the lobby saying things like "It'll be okay honey, just come back to the room". I suspect there was more than a bit of mind-altering substance coursing through her veins and I'm relatively sure that a stimulant like methamphetamine or cocaine was the only thing that kept the patient vertical and speaking based on how much blood he'd lost. I'd called on PD when I arrived on-scene and discovered the nature of the call (because I didn't know where the brother was, what his mental state was or whether he was still armed). When PD arrived the first words out of his mouth when he walked in was "Where's the body?". The worst part (for me, and I'm sure the hotels cleaning staff) was that it was mid-winter and the hotel had boiler heat which made the air super-dry. The blood that had been sprayed around the marble floor had dried. Whatever polish or treatment they'd used on the marble floor had made it hygrophobic and the dried blood had come loose from the floor as little curls that looked like paper-thin red wood chips. They were wafting around the floor with every breeze and you could literally taste iron in the air. That was the absolute worst bleeding type call I've had in 20+ years in EMS. Ric
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| | | | Re: First Aid Kit and Injuries? < Reply # 37 on 7/1/2019 10:08 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by Dee Ashley I'm still holding out hope for a vaccine against these plants one day... Plenty of animals in the wild are immune to it so why can't we be immune too? Some of my most miserable moments of existing have been due to poison ivy (chiggers are a close second if I'm fed upon by enough of them at once). I always keep Technu (not sure on the correct spelling) in my Jeep and have had to use it a couple of times. It's abrasive like an exfoliant - I'm assuming to help get all of that wretched oil off. It's used like a soap and can be bought over the counter. I also use rubbing alcohol but mostly on anything I think might have touched the oak/ivy/etc. Items like my backpack, shoes, gloves.... The offending oil can easily stick around for a year or more if it's not removed from items. I highly suggest keeping Technu or something similar. If you can use this or alcohol or whatever within a few minutes or so of contact with the plant, you might save yourself a lot of agony! *Fun fact: Every part of the poison ivy plant contains urushiol (the oil that gets on your skin and makes you want to die), even the roots underground and they can still get you even when they die! Evil bastards.
| Long thick plants tucked into high top boots, long sleeve shirt, gloves, bandana, bush hat and eye protection. Keep your hands and upper body out off it! If it gets in your eyes, on your fingers or sensitive boy/girl parts you will really suffer. Avoid windy days. Shower as soon as possible and be careful handling contaminated items. Oral benedryl, lots of it, knocks it down best and stops it's spread once nailed by it. Your reaction to it varies over time. It could be little one year and just wind exposure could trigger it the next season. The shinier, oilier looking leafs are worse. If in a known highly allergic phase, avoid areas with it completely. When I got busted at the Nike site I walked through about 50 yards of thick waist high poison ivy. Fuck me, a field of it, real thick, green and glossy. Couldn't shower until 8 or 9 hours latter. Nothing. Some of the cops got it from frisking my pants down. I warned them... they gradually learned to take me seriously Ain't no poison ivy in W Texas... I'll take rattlers and black widows over that any day
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