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Jonsered
Location: Back in New Mexico where I belong Gender: Male Total Likes: 175 likes
Dressed for a scarecrow ball.........
| | | | | Re: Rural Explores and Parking < Reply # 2 on 6/21/2016 5:11 AM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Welcome. There are a bunch of us here to do primarily rural exploring. Some of the others here may disagree, but I personally think your biggest adversary is nature, not security. Not sure exactly where you are located, but think about snakes, ants, cactus and thorny type plants, barking dogs giving away your position, water (distance covered can get crazy pretty quick in rural stuff), long pants, long sleeves, real shoes, a decent pair of gloves. You also have to consider the camo angle of rural stuff. Think about being the only set of footprints on a dirt road. Consider that in a rural area, everybody will know you ain't from around here, and parking is problematic at best. Out in the sticks, there are still plenty of places that your phone signal, and thus your phone GPS, will be non existent. There are a bunch of threads here on this topic, but most of the best seem to be FM, so you can't see them yet. As for research, Google Earth is your friend. Might also look into books, magazines, etc. describing the history of your area. I still preach buying a good paper map of the target area. Get out into the country and drive around small roads with an eye for old buildings that you weren't looking for before. Rural exploration is sort of a crap shoot, but once in awhile you find a real gem. One other thing. I'm from the boonies, and It's been my experience that if you see something cool in the country, stop and talk to the first person you see, and ask them if they know anything about the place. It's amazing how many times the person you just met is cousin to so and so, and he can get you into see some seriously cool stuff with permission. Good hunting! Edited twice cuz eye caint spel
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| I have changed my personal exploring ethics code. From now on it will be: "Take only aimed shots, leave only hobo corpses." Copper scrappers, meth heads and homeless beware. The Jonsered cometh among you, bringing fear and dread. |
| heinrick
Location: Cascadia Gender: Male Total Likes: 120 likes
| | | | Re: Rural Explores and Parking < Reply # 3 on 6/21/2016 6:27 AM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Like others have said, use trees, fences, and other visual obstructions to your advantage to keep yourself largely discreet and unseen. If it can't be helped, make an effort to at least look like yourself/your vehicle have another objective other than getting into the old house right nearby. Good neighbors are usually on the look-out, so try distance yourself from whatever they might think trouble looks like. It really varies per location and circumstance. I often park in a conspicuous place and ride a bike or walk in. If you're photographing, take exterior shots last, after you've already trespassed to your heart's content. Some people seem to have decent success with asking for permission from property owners. This usually includes agreed upon off-limit areas, pre-arranged visits, and a lot of respect. Like Jonsered suggested, asking the locals about it is a good start.
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| Peptic Ulcer
Location: Katy, TX Gender: Male Total Likes: 839 likes
"Isn't it fun - being bad?"
| | | | Re: Rural Explores and Parking < Reply # 7 on 6/21/2016 6:32 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | I'm all about social engineering. I'm too fat and old and have too much to risk by getting caught. Consequently, I do a lot of asking. One great source for finding locations is cops. Most towns with 2,000 or more people will have at least one. Cops know where the kids go to spray paint and party. You've got to make up your own story as to why you're there but make sure you have it down pat, and are prepared for any weird question they may throw at you. Also look them in the eye, DO NOT look down or away. Practice this. Not only do they know obscure locations, letting them know you're going in and why, helps to eliminate the "nosy neighbor" call and the parking question. The same is true for locals in a restaurant, convenience store or just out in the country. I've done over 100 explores based on cops information, and not once had any trouble. In fact I've had police escorts, and a few months ago one even came with me! The shotgun wielding country folk can be a danger (I've been shot at before while exploring and it's not fun). The real danger in this respect however are going to be grow houses and meth labs. Never stumbled onto one myself but I know people who have. Always let someone know where you're going, when you're going in and have a system for checking in. My wife knows to contact me 15 minutes after I say I'll be out. If she doesn't hear from me, she calls me, waits 10 minutes, try's again then calls the cops. RUREX has its own sets of dangers and opportunities but can be extremely rewarding. Time, practice and experience are the best teacher but the most important thing to keep in mind is that any explore has to be based on risk vs reward. Good luck, be safe and happy exploring!
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| Hoover
Location: Michigan Gender: Male Total Likes: 75 likes
Quiet as a dang churchmouse
| | | Re: Rural Explores and Parking < Reply # 9 on 6/21/2016 6:41 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | What kind of gypsy curse is that? | The kind that gives our miniscule town something to be proud of Guy 1: "I'm telling ya, we're the honey BBQ capital of the world!" Guy 2: "Where I'm from, we've got the biggest insect museum this side of the Western Hemisphere. How about you?" Me: "Well one time, a guy had a heart attack and crashed into a house infested with 50,000 bees". Guy 2: So you're from one of those towns.. Luckily the bee incident happened when I was younger, otherwise I could be the one crawling through a window only to discover a strange yellow and black decorating scheme.
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| Peptic Ulcer
Location: Katy, TX Gender: Male Total Likes: 839 likes
"Isn't it fun - being bad?"
| | | | Re: Rural Explores and Parking < Reply # 12 on 6/22/2016 12:55 AM > | Reply with Quote
| | | A lot if it has to do with approach and as 2X said, appearance. Being an older guy with a nice car, I'm obviously not there to do any harm. I explain that I have an unusual hobby, I'm a serial trespasser. This always disarms a bit and I then explain that I'm looking for old abandoned building to photograph. About half the time I'm directed to some public historic building but after explaining what I'm after, they either give me a few locations or just say there's nothing there. I have a black t-shirt that has an Urbex logo on it and I always have my camera with me if we're outside the police station (this shows I'm serious). I also tell them that I don't reveal my locations or publish anything because I don't want the locations trashed. Looking like a punk, thug druggie (you know the stereotype) will get you nowhere. Dress for the occasion and if you have funky hair, wear a cap and hide it. Cops and rural folks are conservative and suspicious by nature. Be polite, respectful and look as honest as possible. If you're young, a school project is always a good story. Make sure you have the details down. Trespassing on an active farm site is not advisable. If there's something cool, ask the owner - I bet you get more history and info on the site than you would ever find online or in a library. Which brings up my final point. Be patient. Country folks are used to a slower pace of life. Be prepared to listen to boring stories. Be polite, even ask questions. I've had more "no's" turn into "yes's" just because I was willing to listen to some old guy ramble on for 2 hours.
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| Darendor
Location: Red Deer, Alberta, Canada, Earth, Sol System, Milky Way Galaxy Gender: Male Total Likes: 89 likes
| | | Re: Rural Explores and Parking < Reply # 15 on 6/22/2016 8:39 AM > | Reply with Quote
| | | You know, I had the strangest sense of deja vu while reading the last few replies. As though I replied to this thread a year ago or something...
Anyways.
My modest opinion straight up is that approaching law enforcement and asking about abandoned locations is likely to place you on their radar. I mean, let's face it, UE involves (in most cases anyway) committing trespassing, which in and of itself won't likely land you in prison, but it can get you jailed in the short term and charged and having to pay a fine.
I'm not sure about Peptic Ulcer's method of approaching people and saying "Hi I'm a serial trespasser". He says it's disarming, but I feel it's the exact opposite. I'm not trying to argue with anyone, just presenting my viewpoint. Asking for permission from property owners is probably as far as I would go in terms of trying to do an urban explore "legitimately". If they say yes, then terrific. But if they say no, then it's up to you to decide whether to respect their decision, or go ahead and ignore it and explore it "illegally".
I'm not supposed to be awake right now, but I am.
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