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| 1 2 3 4 | UER Forum > UE Main > Are Age Differences Between Explorers an Issue For You? (Viewed 20733 times) |
TunnelRunner33
Location: Seattle Gender: Male Total Likes: 143 likes
| | | Are Age Differences Between Explorers an Issue For You? < on 6/11/2015 10:57 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | I've been thinking a lot lately about something, and I was curious to see what other people had to say on the topic. I recently went exploring with a friend that is literally half my age, and at one point we were engaged in some pretty dangerous behavior. We were attempting to work our way down a "ramp" of collapsed beams and ruined floor sections to the basement below. My partner was taking the lion's share of the risk, assuming the point position on the "ramp," and I couldn't help but feeling a bit guilty at having brought such a smart and brave young man with me to this mouldering potential death-trap. I remember wondering to myself that if something terrible were to happen to us, would I bear some sort of extra blame or responsibility due to my age? Don't get me wrong, I recognize that he is old enough and mature enough to make these sorts of decisions on his own, and I respect that. That still didn't prevent me from wondering if I was doing the right thing, though. I'm curious to see what other people have to say about the topic. My partner and I eventually pulled out, deciding to come back some other time in the daylight in order to see better. The building has since been closed back up, so it looks like a return trip is out of the question, at least for now. Although I was disappointed to find it sealed, I must admit that I also felt a little relief as well. It meant that we didn't have to brave the "ramp" again. That's kind of a fucked up thing to say, because I really would like to get to the building's basement. I just don't want to get myself, or worse, anyone else killed in the process, especially a young person with a lot of promise and potential. Has anyone else faced this dilemma, and if so, what was your decision on it? For myself, I have decided that as long as someone is legally an adult, they are old enough to explore with. That being said, however, I might be more inclined to avoid the most dangerous activities if I am with someone very young. PS... To my exploring friend if you read this: Please don't take this as me saying I wouldn't explore with you again. You were an excellent partner, and it was cool to 'work' with you. Maybe if we do anything so risky again, I'll just make sure to take the point position!
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| telefontubbie
Location: Latvia, Riga Gender: Female Total Likes: 158 likes
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| | | Re: Are Age Differences Between Explorers an Issue For You? < Reply # 8 on 6/12/2015 9:01 AM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Interesting question. For three years i was the only minor in a group of 22 - 30 year old explorers. I was very responsible back then and i didn't take much risk, others respected me and my choices. There have been times when i don't enter building or territory and i stayed out just because i had a very strong intuition - 'something's gonna happen,guard will show up' etc. And always something went wrong if i said so. There have been some times when i explored with a person who's not 18 yet. I met a girl who's younger than me and has an interest for exploring. She was 16 or 17 when it was the first time i took her somewhere, absolutely no problems. We even hitchhiked together to explore abandoned places in another country. But now i remember, the day i met her i asked to her "does any of your relatives or a close friend know where are you now, with who and where you'll go today?". So i guess i felt a little bit responsible about her and i really cared if she's clear about her plans to her family or at least someone close because hitchhiking might be more risky than exploring. If there would be a situation when i'm taking somebody under 18 exploring i would definitely do this: 1)ask if their parents know 2)ask what they already know about safety risks and explain some stuff if it's necessary before going somewhere 3)warn about any dangers while being inside building (but that's what ALL explorers do no matter how old/experienced anyone is) I think any 'grown-up' explorer can learn from young explorers,too. Why? 1)Young explorers can put more attention for exploring. Their only duty is to go to school so they have a lot of free time. So they're totally into exploring, i must say - they're able to focus their attention for exploring 24 hrs a day. They're really able to pay more attention for exploring in any way. I mean, if they would encouter with anything risky, they have plenty of time to find out possible dangers. 2)Young explorers are probably more into social networking that we used to be. They're Google generation. They post stuff on social networks in real time so their parents/friends knows well what the youngster does at the moment. They can react immediately if they find it's not OK. It means they put a lot of trust to anybody they're close to. After writing this i wish i was 15 again for a day..
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| Doug
Gender: Male Total Likes: 769 likes
| | | | Re: Are Age Differences Between Explorers an Issue For You? < Reply # 13 on 6/18/2015 6:22 AM > | Reply with Quote
| | | For the first time in my exploring life, I'm finding that in Australia that the next wave of explorers seem more selfish and annoying than ever. Some even brag about smashing into locations. In some circles smashing your way in is the norm and done even when simple access is possible. Anyone that responds to a photo or video of a location with "wheres that" (which is how they usually spell it) should have their Urbex Card taken away. I have thought these things is the past, however it was always the exception. They were the exception and soon succumbed to peer group pressure - Don't smash up shit ya dick head! It's not just because I'm getting on a bit. If I was to go back five years the majority of newer explorers were generally team players & I could relate to them is some way despite a 20+ year difference, but nowadays... I don't know, I think Australia is catching up to rest of the world where urbex has somehow become a graff related thing where putting videos up of incriminating infiltrations seems more common. These type of explorers have forced the newer keen explorers (that don't smash shit up) underground and they often appear to be arrogant, but in most examples it's often a case of once bitten, twice shy. There are so many explorers not in the C/C that seem to not have a clue that the C/C branches almost seem scared (over cautious) to let anyone join that isn't the salt of the earth. Thinking about it for more than the usual 12.8 seconds, it's probably just a minority that stands out more and I should STFU I'm going to sound like the oldest "back in the good old days" fart, but I am so glad I got to do the majority of my exploring when I did (yeah, grass is always greener, blah blah ;) ) Cheers
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