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Bayers Lake Mystery Walls
< on 1/24/2012 4:12 AM >
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How could something so purposefully built and close to the city leave absolutely no trace or record as to its origins? This was one of my first thoughts when visiting this area. Just down the road from where thousands shop every day, this placement of tons upon tons of rocks was obviously the product of a lot of backbreaking labour - but for what purpose? These efforts were surely not expended for a small or short term purpose. Someone was driven to produce this significant result. Why?

Where mystery persists, theories abound - and this one is no exception. Theories range from an early (British) military purpose of some kind to a connection to Henry Sinclair and the search for the Holy Grail.

I hope that someday some light will be shed on this mystery and that development will not ever encroach on this special place.

You will find pictures and information at the links I've placed below.
http://bayerswalls.blogspot.com/

http://rockpiles.b...-halifax-nova.html

http://www.vortexm...scotia/page15.html

http://www.flickr....72157603231598753/

http://www.rootswe...nshalifa/Ch21.html

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As seen on Halifax History.
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Re: Bayers Lake Mystery Walls
<Reply # 1 on 1/24/2012 6:46 AM >
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Farm settlers pretty much is what I think, I'm from Chezzetcook, if you go back a field of wooded area, you find the stone walls everywhere. They marked property lines etc. Sadly there isn't much recorded history of them that I know of, but a lot is from Acadian settlers.

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Re: Bayers Lake Mystery Walls
<Reply # 2 on 1/25/2012 2:40 AM >
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I'm hoping you're Todd and didn't just copy and paste a page from his website without giving him credit or sourcing it.



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Re: Bayers Lake Mystery Walls
<Reply # 3 on 1/25/2012 3:29 AM >
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When Sonikgirl and I went on a little tour of the wall site with a group, there was an Irish anthropologist there as well who said that the structures are very similar to those found at early settlements in Ireland. But that's more speculation I think than anything else. I still remain intrigued with these walls and wonder if there's anything else out in that area that hasn't been found yet.

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Re: Bayers Lake Mystery Walls
<Reply # 4 on 1/26/2012 6:50 PM >
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Tweeted about these walls the other day hoping to draw someone with insight into our thread. While that hasn't happened yet, this thread is now featured on an online paper called 'UrbEx Daily'. Fingers crossed more people see it.



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Re: Bayers Lake Mystery Walls
<Reply # 5 on 1/26/2012 10:58 PM >
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There's pages and pages of theories in the NS Explore mailing list. Also here is Todd's website where cormiermax copy/pasted the first post.

http://halifaxhist...keMysteryWalls.htm

Todd is the guy who Nootz and I and a few others went out there with last fall.

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Re: Bayers Lake Mystery Walls
<Reply # 6 on 1/26/2012 11:30 PM >
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Sorry sonikgirl for not giving credit where credit was due, totally slipped my mind, tried to edit it in but apparently I cant.

Back to topic, I also talked with a few reputable sources who said the structure seemed to resemble very early settlements. My question is, why hasn't an archaeological dig been preformed at the site?

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Re: Bayers Lake Mystery Walls
<Reply # 7 on 1/27/2012 9:59 PM >
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If I had to guess, I'd say it's either not at the top of their list of things to do, or it could be too expensive to do at this point in time. But people in the Fairview, Lakeside and Bayers Lake area have always known the walls were there, they just don't know where they originated. Just like everybody else, lol.

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Re: Bayers Lake Mystery Walls
<Reply # 8 on 4/14/2012 8:02 PM >
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Look like property markers/boundaries.We have them all over the place,where I live.They would have to carbon date the rock

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Re: Bayers Lake Mystery Walls
<Reply # 9 on 4/14/2012 8:16 PM >
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That would have been a lot of trouble to go through marking property lines like that in the middle of nowhere out there.

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Re: Bayers Lake Mystery Walls
<Reply # 10 on 4/15/2012 1:57 AM >
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Posted by tribeachpunk
That would have been a lot of trouble to go through marking property lines like that in the middle of nowhere out there.


Except when they were built, it probably wasn't the middle of nowhere.

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Re: Bayers Lake Mystery Walls
<Reply # 11 on 4/19/2012 12:00 AM >
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Posted by tribeachpunk
That would have been a lot of trouble to go through marking property lines like that in the middle of nowhere out there.


It does,but when you look at land deeds,some of the rock walls are exactly on property boundaries of the time

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Re: Bayers Lake Mystery Walls
<Reply # 12 on 4/19/2012 1:25 AM >
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Posted by Spiritwalker


It does,but when you look at land deeds,some of the rock walls are exactly on property boundaries of the time



The thing is, there is no documentation of these walls/foundations - so no land deeds. The city currently owns this land and has for a while, it's an area of forest just outside a current business park. It most likely was from a small community, but it's not great land for farming (very rocky) and not very close to water. My guess is it dates back to the 1600s... but who knows. A military buff also said, it's likely not military, because everything military is well documented in this area.

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Re: Bayers Lake Mystery Walls
<Reply # 13 on 4/19/2012 2:22 AM >
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Posted by sonikgirl



The thing is, there is no documentation of these walls/foundations - so no land deeds. The city currently owns this land and has for a while, it's an area of forest just outside a current business park. It most likely was from a small community, but it's not great land for farming (very rocky) and not very close to water. My guess is it dates back to the 1600s... but who knows. A military buff also said, it's likely not military, because everything military is well documented in this area.


Hmm interesting,is it possible it was part of a fort or some kind of fortification

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Re: Bayers Lake Mystery Walls
<Reply # 14 on 4/19/2012 1:32 PM >
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Hmm interesting,is it possible it was part of a fort or some kind of fortification


It seems doubtful, as our military history is well documented.

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Re: Bayers Lake Mystery Walls
<Reply # 15 on 4/21/2012 5:07 AM >
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Not all of our military history is well documented. There is lots out there lost to time and this city isnt exactly great at keeping records.

Lots of things/places I've seen in person, dont exist according to the NS archives or HRM archives.
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Re: Bayers Lake Mystery Walls
<Reply # 16 on 4/21/2012 5:25 AM >
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http://www.nsexplo...mysterywalls51.jpg

Heres a map of the area with the walls and foundation.


Saint Mary’s University archaeologist Stephen Davis says they are indeed Scottish/Irish in origin, he also says they could predate the founding of Halifax and Jeff Turner (Founding member of the Archaeological Land Trust of Nova Scotia) says there is evidence of gun emplacements(notches where a cannon would be rolled up to in this case).

The 5 sided foundation has what looks to be a fireplace, but there are no stones to be found which would of made the chimney. The idea that this would of been for gunpowder storage would make sense combined with the fact the foundation is built so water slopes away from it.


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Re: Bayers Lake Mystery Walls
<Reply # 17 on 4/21/2012 1:30 PM >
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Posted by Jonnie B
http://www.nsexplo...mysterywalls51.jpg

Heres a map of the area with the walls and foundation.


Saint Mary’s University archaeologist Stephen Davis says they are indeed Scottish/Irish in origin, he also says they could predate the founding of Halifax and Jeff Turner (Founding member of the Archaeological Land Trust of Nova Scotia) says there is evidence of gun emplacements(notches where a cannon would be rolled up to in this case).

The 5 sided foundation has what looks to be a fireplace, but there are no stones to be found which would of made the chimney. The idea that this would of been for gunpowder storage would make sense combined with the fact the foundation is built so water slopes away from it.

So it could have been a fortification or early protected settlement.Judging by the map you provided it makes sense that a battlement was on top of a hill.I bet that in those days,we would have been looking down into a valley and placing the fortification where they did,gives them a great view of the valley below and beyond

But WHY is there a fortification there? was there alot of native presence at the time,I wonder

All speculation I know,but interesting nonetheless.We also have to remember that Halifax went through a great fire and explosion in 1917 and many many records could have been lost at that time
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Re: Bayers Lake Mystery Walls
<Reply # 18 on 4/21/2012 10:13 PM >
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Posted by Jonnie B
Lots of things/places I've seen in person, dont exist according to the NS archives or HRM archives.


That doesn't mean there isn't documentation of them. ;)


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Re: Bayers Lake Mystery Walls
<Reply # 19 on 4/30/2012 3:03 AM >
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Ill have to make my way up there soon, Interesting to think it could pre-date Halifax.

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