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Izzy123 \|	When do you go in? < on 12/30/2010 7:49 PM >

	I am such a noob on the UE that it is not even funny. But really when do you go in? When a building closes up when would you consider it a abandonment? I have seen some pics from very recent closings and very old closings. I am guessing that the older the closing the harder it is to gain access to it because of previous vandals and the danger level goes up because of structural integrity being questionable. Don't cook bacon with your shirt off

aurelie location: pacific northwest Gender: Female high tech:: low life. \| \|	Re: When do you go in? <Reply # 1 on 12/30/2010 7:54 PM >

	Generally the older an abandonment is, the easier it is to get in. Most buildings just don't have people who care about them enough to keep them sealed/patrolled, so the longer it stands, the more entrances will be made. Even buildings that are sealed one day will be open the next. Recently closed buildings may still have alarms, may be used for storage or have an owner who cares about them. With that said, I go in active things more than I go in abandoned ones, so the only thing that matters is security measures. reckless thoughts abide; anachronistic and impulsive. loosely jacketed against the cold and ten thousand worlds for the choosing.

tribeachpunk

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Re: When do you go in?
<Reply # 2 on 12/30/2010 7:55 PM >

Posted by Izzy123
I am such a noob on the UE that it is not even funny. But really when do you go in? When a building closes up when would you consider it a abandonment? I have seen some pics from very recent closings and very old closings. I am guessing that the older the closing the harder it is to gain access to it because of previous vandals and the danger level goes up because of structural integrity being questionable.

It'll vary greatly from location to location.

When buildings close for the first time, they're often locked tight. Over time, the vandals (et al) wear down the secure building and, if no one cares to mend it, it'll open up, letting you walk through the front door instead of having to kick it down. Yeah, please don't kick down the front door.

Generally, the longer it sits there, the more open it becomes.

But if the place gets torched or seriously vandalized, or if the place becomes a huge, hazardous death trap, you can be assume that security or police will be patrolling more often.

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TheWolfman269 location: Nashville, Tennessee Gender: Male If it looks like a wolf, acts like a wolf, and howls like a wolf, it's probably an asshole. \| \|	Re: When do you go in? <Reply # 3 on 12/30/2010 8:02 PM >

	Most of the time when a building first closes down, it is still covered by the owner's insurance on it. So even though it is no longer actively in use, the owner still needs to protect it until the insurance runs out. So you will still have a good chance of thier being security guards or an alarm. My general rule of thumb, if it still has power, I don't go in. That is usually the last thing that gets turned off. The owners will let that one run the longest for lights (for themselves, as a deterrent, and for any guard working there) and for the power outlets to still be working should they plan on doing anything with the building at all. If the power is turned off, they more than likely have nothing planned for the building. So that's my rule of thumb. As mentioned though, it is going to vary from location to location. "I've got military training, a giant crowbar, and I've already been shot. What can really stop me?" - Myself

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Re: When do you go in?
<Reply # 4 on 12/30/2010 9:05 PM >

Posted by tribeachpunk
or if the place becomes a huge, hazardous death trap, you can be assume that security or police will be patrolling more often.

Hearn in Toronto is a good example of this... security has calmed down some since the death from waht i have heard.. but there IS still security there

The Seeker location: Greater Toronto Area Gender: Male Time's Person of the Year for 2006 \| \|	Re: When do you go in? <Reply # 5 on 12/30/2010 9:09 PM >

	also, in terms of when is the right time to go in.. i dont really have any discretion... abandonned buidings, active buildings, cnstruction site, half demolished buildings(Malt)... I have done them all... I just stick to the main rules of exploring. take only photographs, leave only footprints, and damage nothing. and certainly don't knock in any doors. I don't know if ayone on here has ever kicked a door in, but I haven't... sone locations, however, look for fire exits, and roof exits... those are often left open ;) Sony a7II \| Canon 5D mkII \| Canon Rebel XSi \| Sony 28mm f/2.0 \| Yashica 50mm f/1.9 \| Sigma 15mm f/2.8 fisheye \| Sigma 10-20mm f/4-5.6 \| Canon 50mm f/1.8 STM \| Sigma 70-200 f/2.8

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Re: When do you go in?
<Reply # 6 on 12/30/2010 9:55 PM >

Posted by rostit
I tend to go in when I am out. Going in when you are already in, is difficult. Its like dividing by a negative or rounding Pi or something...

It's elementary, dear Watson.

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TheWolfman269 location: Nashville, Tennessee Gender: Male If it looks like a wolf, acts like a wolf, and howls like a wolf, it's probably an asshole. \| \|	Re: When do you go in? <Reply # 7 on 12/30/2010 9:57 PM >

	I'll kick in a door. I'll hunt for a way in first but if I can't find one, I'll make one. I try to avoid breaking glass if I can though. I would rather bust through the wall like the Kool Aid Man than break a window. "I've got military training, a giant crowbar, and I've already been shot. What can really stop me?" - Myself

tribeachpunk location: Halifax, NS Gender: Male \| \|	Re: When do you go in? <Reply # 8 on 12/30/2010 10:15 PM >

	What I like to do is remove the plywood covering a ground floor window. I'll hang it back in place when I'm inside and do my best to secure it when I leave. That way it doesn't look like an obvious entrance to a passerby. I generally won't damage the front door. I'll poke and pry at it but if I can't shut it when I'm leaving, I won't push it.. Halifax UrbEx (Blog) \|\|\| Atlantic Canada Urban Exploration Facebook Group

CatalogOfCulture

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All over the northeast
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Re: When do you go in?
<Reply # 9 on 12/31/2010 2:09 AM >

Posted by TheWolfman269
I'll kick in a door. I'll hunt for a way in first but if I can't find one, I'll make one. I try to avoid breaking glass if I can though. I would rather bust through the wall like the Kool Aid Man than break a window.

Just because I saved it the last time someone posted it in this context

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TheWolfman269

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Nashville, Tennessee
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Re: When do you go in?
<Reply # 10 on 12/31/2010 5:21 AM >

Posted by CatalogOfCulture

Just because I saved it the last time someone posted it in this context

Out-Fucking-Standing!

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Re: When do you go in?
<Reply # 11 on 12/31/2010 5:33 AM >

Posted by rostit
I tend to go in when I am out. Going in when you are already in, is difficult. Its like dividing by a negative or rounding Pi or something...

... math fail? :/ I dearly hope that you're jesting.

Back on topic, whatever. If you like taking risks, go for recently closed or mothballed buildings. If you don't, don't.

The Seeker

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Re: When do you go in?
<Reply # 12 on 12/31/2010 5:39 AM >

Posted by tribeachpunk
What I like to do is remove the plywood covering a ground floor window. I'll hang it back in place when I'm inside and do my best to secure it when I leave. That way it doesn't look like an obvious entrance to a passerby.

I plead guilty to having done this once before. But it required no effort.. It was a wet, soggy, piece of particle board, and the glue had deteriorated and begun to rot...
But like I said, I have never personally damaged or broken anything to gain access to a location.

Axman location: St.Paul, MN Gender: Male \|	Re: When do you go in? <Reply # 13 on 12/31/2010 5:14 PM >

	Some 3M buildings just closed down and the property is up for sale, but the security is still really strong. I'm gonna wait for a while before trying a POE. Lucky I can keep watch from my house to see when it starts to die down. The truth can set you free.....Or get you killed.

compaq12986

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Tupper Lake, N.Y., 12986
Gender: Male

Re: When do you go in?
<Reply # 14 on 12/31/2010 8:28 PM >

Posted by rostit
Usually I just put slugs in the 12guage and use it to "pick" locks.

im guilty of doing this all the time at my fav places.

The Misandry around these parts is redonkulous. Sorry I was born with male anatomy.

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