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<Reply # 20 on 3/18/2010 5:23 PM >
|  | | | I'm sure he was being sarcastic. 
I'm not sure that 'big' buildings downtown are necessarily the answer... There is a lot of wasted space as it is (ie. Barrington), like you said.
Now that I think about it, I wonder if Barrington Street will go the way of the Historic Properties.. Facades. Something to think about.
Barrington is all retail with no parking. People go to BLIP or similar to do all their shopping conveniently. Maybe I've tried to find a spot to park and shop downtown. Parking ticket. Never again. The city (municipality) is to blame for many of the problems downtown, not limited to parking. Some argue the building commercial and residential space in the downtown will help to support the retail on Barrington. But by then, it'll be too late, IMO.
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Raptor90
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<Reply # 21 on 3/18/2010 6:17 PM >
| | | | Seems traffic is expanding far faster than the tight little downtown city is.
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<Reply # 22 on 3/21/2010 5:13 PM >
| | | | Analyst: Centre will pay off
By BILL POWER Business Reporter
Sat. Mar 20 - 4:54 AM
Using the current state of the economy as an argument against a new convention centre for Halifax is a huge mistake, an industry analyst said Friday.
Michael Hughes, vice-president of consulting and research for Tradeshow Week in the United States, said the convention industry mirrors the state of the economy, and all significant indicators suggest a rebound of the Canadian and U.S. economies will be underway by the end of this year.
"Halifax would need only to attract a handful of new events each year to justify the investment in a new convention centre," Hughes said.
In fact, by the time construction was finished, the economy would be back to normal and the city would immediately begin reaping rewards from the investment, he said.
"There has been some sluggishness across the board in the market segment the facility in Halifax caters to," he said. "There is also lots of evidence indicating this segment will be one of the first to bounce back with the economy improving."
The Coalition to Save the View from Citadel Hill, a group that opposes the convention centre project because of the two highrise towers it includes, used statistics from Tradeshow Weekly to back up its argument that the convention industry in North America has been in decline since the end of the 1990s.
Hughes, who has visited Halifax, said the numbers the coalition used in its presentation at a news conference Thursday referred to some of the biggest conventions at the largest venues in North America and really do not apply to Halifax.
"Halifax is a Tier 3 facility that had some success attracting Tier 2 events," he said. "With a new centre, the city would be a serious contender for more Tier 2 events."
Tradeshow Weekly publishes statistics reflecting attendance and exhibitor participation at the top 200 Tier 1 conventions in the U.S. and the top 50 in Canada.
"These are the some of the world’s biggest industry events that can attract tens of thousands of visitors," Hughes said. "No offence, but Halifax does not play in this league."
The numbers do indicate a significant decrease in exhibitor participation at big shows, which he said reflects the state of the economy.
"This is less of an issue with smaller venues, where there is more of a focus on amenities required for educational seminars and that sort of thing," Hughes said.
He said professional development conferences and industry association meetings are the sort of events a smaller centre like Halifax wants to attract, and it is in this context that the province’s proposed $100-million investment in a new, larger convention centre makes sense.
http://thechronicl...iness/1173156.html
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alps
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<Reply # 23 on 3/21/2010 5:27 PM >
| | | | The reason "traffic is expanding" is not because of development in the core but rather people commuting in from new suburbs. The peninsula has tens of thousands fewer inhabitants than it did in the 1950s. If you want to go and decide new development should be dictated by the availability of parking we might as well level everything in the core, move everything out to buttfuck Dartmouth Crossing, and rename the city Houston. 
One sad thing I learned from the HRMbyDesign presentations was that the core of this city (defined as the peninsula and Dartmouth within the Circ) has a lower population density than Mississauga. Old, tiny-floorplate office space on Barrington is very different from the space that this development would offer to rival places like Burnside. I like that this building retains the ground-level retail (unlike Founder's Square, which was developed in a similar manner by the same company).
I dunno -- I'm actually not too keen on this development in particular (Granville-Historic Properties has, or had, a uniquely continuous historic character to it) but I think it's beyond shortsighted to dismiss development in the core on traffic/parking grounds...no way rail public transit will ever become viable here if we've got more sprawl than suburban Toronto!
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<Reply # 25 on 3/21/2010 5:49 PM >
| | | | That Bill Power article is about a different building, the new WTCC planned for the old Herald site up on Argyle/Grafton:
http://www.metrone...cal/article/223179
Again, I support the intensification of the downtown, but architecturally it looks more suited to suburban Denver than downtown Halifax and there is nothing going on at street level so...bleh. We do need a larger convention spot, though.
One development I was quite excited about was the United Gulf proposal for the old Texpark site, but that was drawn out so slowly before being approved the developer started work on other projects and it's been delayed for ages. Would really help Barrington.
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tribeachpunk
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<Reply # 26 on 3/21/2010 6:24 PM >
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That Bill Power article is about a different building, the new WTCC planned for the old Herald site up on Argyle/Grafton:
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Different building, same downtown, same problems.
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darbycrashin
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<Reply # 27 on 3/21/2010 8:02 PM >
| | | | Posted by tribeachpunk
Now that I think about it, I wonder if Barrington Street will go the way of the Historic Properties.. Facades. Something to think about.
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I'm pretty sure that's the plan for the old Sams/Granite Brewery building and the Roy building.
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darbycrashin
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<Reply # 29 on 3/21/2010 8:49 PM >
| | | | not yet, but there's been talk about tearing it down.
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Protios
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<Reply # 30 on 3/23/2010 1:14 PM >
| | | | Can you imagine 200 years from now, society trying to cope with preserving "historical" properties, which by then would be everything we currently have.
People need to get over sentiments, the past is the past, write it down in a book, take some photos, level the buildings and make life better in the current.
People will complain and fight like hell about anything, and to what avail? Telling their grand kids they stuck it to the man once.
It's all so comical.
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<Reply # 32 on 3/23/2010 10:01 PM >
| | | | That was quite hilarious!
Have faith only in those who you trust. And hold who you trust close to you for you have no idea when you will need them most.
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Protios
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<Reply # 33 on 3/23/2010 11:51 PM >
| | | | SO TRUE!
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<Reply # 34 on 3/24/2010 2:50 AM >
|  | | | Very funny!
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Jonnie B
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<Reply # 35 on 3/30/2010 8:15 AM >
| | | | Posted by tribeachpunk
I'm sure he was being sarcastic.
I'm not sure that 'big' buildings downtown are necessarily the answer... There is a lot of wasted space as it is (ie. Barrington), like you said.
Now that I think about it, I wonder if Barrington Street will go the way of the Historic Properties.. Facades. Something to think about.
Barrington is all retail with no parking. People go to BLIP or similar to do all their shopping conveniently. Maybe I've tried to find a spot to park and shop downtown. Parking ticket. Never again. The city (municipality) is to blame for many of the problems downtown, not limited to parking. Some argue the building commercial and residential space in the downtown will help to support the retail on Barrington. But by then, it'll be too late, IMO.
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By the Khyber, the old theatre behind Neptune is just a facade now. Has been for god knows how long.
http://maps.google...2,258.18,,0,-18.54
apparently you'll have to copy and paste into your address bar as the forum doesn't seem to link google maps links.
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darbycrashin
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<Reply # 36 on 3/30/2010 2:17 PM >
| | | | Posted by Jonnie B
By the Khyber, the old theatre behind Neptune is just a facade now. Has been for god knows how long.
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That used to be the National Film Board building. It caught fire in 1991, and I think they restored the facade in 96-97.
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tribeachpunk
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Halifax, NS
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<Reply # 37 on 3/30/2010 2:38 PM >
| | | | Posted by Jonnie B
By the Khyber, the old theatre behind Neptune is just a facade now. Has been for god knows how long.
http://maps.google...2,258.18,,0,-18.54
apparently you'll have to copy and paste into your address bar as the forum doesn't seem to link google maps links.
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The link just needed a little coding
[url]http://www.uer.ca/forum_showcats.asp?fid=1[/url]
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[url=http://www.uer.ca/forum_showcats. asp?fid=1]UER:Home[/url] |
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Jonnie B
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<Reply # 38 on 4/2/2010 5:53 PM >
| | | | Posted by sonikgirl
That used to be the National Film Board building. It caught fire in 1991, and I think they restored the facade in 96-97.
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I did not know that.
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