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Recoil location: Halifax, NS Gender: Male \|	Re: Mines and Tunnels in HRM? <Reply # 40 on 1/5/2010 6:00 PM >

	To address the George's Isl. tunnel myths. I work with parks and have a lot to do with sites downtown (citadel and Georges, specifically). Park's isn't trying to "cover up" any secrets, the scans that BIO did definitively show that there is nothing there now. That's not saying, necessarily there never was, but their scans reveal nothing--it's not some high government cover up. There was an old man, years and years ago who allegedly--on his death bed--admitted to his family that he had worked on tunnels leading out to the island, but it's obviously hearsay and not confirmed. If you want to look for tunnels go to the Westin. I've been to the archives (the parks ones, not the ones available to everyone) and there are records that when the Westin (Originally by another name) was built they kept uncovering tunnels leading towards the harbour coming down from the city. The citadel does have a tunnel called the "big drain" that lead into the city off of the north eastern side of the hill, coincidentally that drain "fed off" into the Royal Artillery yard (no coincidence). However it also branched off into tunnels that largely terminated by where Pier 21/Westin is now--which was also the site of the Royal Engineers yard. Also, consider that the shortest distance to Georges from land is in and around that area. Which would be convenient for those Royal Engineers who would likely be responsible for the construction. Again, I've talked with a lot of Parks historians, archeologists and important people about it and most of them laugh at the idea, it's largely debunked and looked at as a folk-tale. There's very little historical evidence to support its existence, even in the more "secret" files left behind (Of which we have MANY). As far as the tunnel near the Halifax Club there were some leading out of Legislature as I remember. There is currently one that connects Legislature with the building just behind it (I can't recall which one) but they still use it to ferry politicians to and from their offices to avoid the press, if they need to. It would make sense that there would be tunnels connecting different buildings of political significance in that part of the city. But again, look towards the waterfront areas in and around the Westin, that is where I have heard the strangest tunnels that were unearthed decades ago were found. As I was told by historians the Westin never filled them in, but instead restored them because they could easily route power cables from the generating plant on the water to the hotel.

tribeachpunk location: Halifax, NS Gender: Male \| \|	Re: Mines and Tunnels in HRM? <Reply # 41 on 1/5/2010 6:34 PM >

	John William Cameron was the old man. I think all of the cover up talk stems from the army's denial that the tunnels were never anything more than sewers. That's just not true. There was a coverup, but not regarding tunnels under the harbor, just the ones under the downtown... And not a denial that they didn't exist, just that they were for sewage vs. moving people. Halifax UrbEx (Blog) \|\|\| Atlantic Canada Urban Exploration Facebook Group

darbycrashin Noble Donor location: Halifax, Nova Scotia Gender: Female \|	Re: Mines and Tunnels in HRM? <Reply # 42 on 1/6/2010 1:51 AM >

	thanks for the info Recoil... some good stuff there. Flickr http://flickr.com/photos/klandry

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Re: Mines and Tunnels in HRM?
<Reply # 43 on 1/6/2010 12:20 PM >

To address the George's Isl. tunnel myths. I work with parks and have a lot to do with sites downtown (citadel and Georges, specifically). Park's isn't trying to "cover up" any secrets, the scans that BIO did definitively show that there is nothing there now. That's not saying, necessarily there never was, but their scans reveal nothing--it's not some high government cover up.

unless...YOURE ALSO PART OF THE COVER-UP!!! AAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!

moneywagon

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Its only tresspassing if someone catches you.

Re: Mines and Tunnels in HRM?
<Reply # 44 on 1/7/2010 12:41 AM >

Posted by Recoil
To address the George's Isl. tunnel myths.

I work with parks and have a lot to do with sites downtown (citadel and Georges, specifically).

Park's isn't trying to "cover up" any secrets, the scans that BIO did definitively show that there is nothing there now. That's not saying, necessarily there never was, but their scans reveal nothing--it's not some high government cover up.

There was an old man, years and years ago who allegedly--on his death bed--admitted to his family that he had worked on tunnels leading out to the island, but it's obviously hearsay and not confirmed.

If you want to look for tunnels go to the Westin. I've been to the archives (the parks ones, not the ones available to everyone) and there are records that when the Westin (Originally by another name) was built they kept uncovering tunnels leading towards the harbour coming down from the city.

The citadel does have a tunnel called the "big drain" that lead into the city off of the north eastern side of the hill, coincidentally that drain "fed off" into the Royal Artillery yard (no coincidence). However it also branched off into tunnels that largely terminated by where Pier 21/Westin is now--which was also the site of the Royal Engineers yard.

Also, consider that the shortest distance to Georges from land is in and around that area. Which would be convenient for those Royal Engineers who would likely be responsible for the construction.

Again, I've talked with a lot of Parks historians, archeologists and important people about it and most of them laugh at the idea, it's largely debunked and looked at as a folk-tale. There's very little historical evidence to support its existence, even in the more "secret" files left behind (Of which we have MANY).

As far as the tunnel near the Halifax Club there were some leading out of Legislature as I remember. There is currently one that connects Legislature with the building just behind it (I can't recall which one) but they still use it to ferry politicians to and from their offices to avoid the press, if they need to. It would make sense that there would be tunnels connecting different buildings of political significance in that part of the city.

But again, look towards the waterfront areas in and around the Westin, that is where I have heard the strangest tunnels that were unearthed decades ago were found. As I was told by historians the Westin never filled them in, but instead restored them because they could easily route power cables from the generating plant on the water to the hotel.

I worked at the Westin for 2 years while i was going to Dal, if tunnels did exist at one time (apparently they were steam tunnels going from the boiler room in the westin to the now close power plant (being rebuilt as NSP headquarters) they are long gone. I worked back shift and had access to the whole hotel, and we looked, many, many nights we looked, i've been in literally every room on the bottom 3 floors of the building and unless something is bricked up they are now gone. But, there is a crawl space you would have to get onto all fours to explore that does lead towards the harbour and carries pipes from the boiler room, but its by no means a tunnel you coudl walk or move comfortably in, ive also never explored this area because it goes under the building and to be completly honest its creepy as hell and while we had free reign to explore anywhere, none of us were willing or equipped to crawl under the building along with hundreds of rats and mice and electrical and plumbing pipes. But if you can get access to the basement of the hotel these are in the old boiler room, and are most likely the "tunnels" people have heard of. other than that there are 100% no stand up, restored tunnels of the standard military or access tunnel type.

Woke up quick at about noon, just thought that i had to be in Compton soon?

Recoil

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Re: Mines and Tunnels in HRM?
<Reply # 45 on 1/16/2010 11:08 PM >

Posted by tribeachpunk
John William Cameron was the old man.

I think all of the cover up talk stems from the army's denial that the tunnels were never anything more than sewers. That's just not true. There was a coverup, but not regarding tunnels under the harbor, just the ones under the downtown... And not a denial that they didn't exist, just that they were for sewage vs. moving people.

I've seen the original plans laid down for the sewers connecting to the East side of the Hill.

In the report there are two proposed designs for filtering sewage. One is a maybe 2.5 foot high diamond shaped brick tunnel, the other is about 5'6, stone on the bottom rounded brick roof and flat bottom--exactly what IS there now.

The report also states a desire to go with the first design.

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