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Infiltration Forums > Archived Canada: Other > Mines and Tunnels in HRM? (Viewed 2177 times)
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Re: Mines and Tunnels in HRM?
<Reply # 20 on 12/5/2009 8:31 PM >
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Posted by nootz
Well, I figure if there is in fact a tunnel at the Armoury, it would probably only connect it to Fort George. There's no real reason for it to connect with the rest of the tunnel system, not too mention it's a bit of a stretch for it.


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Re: Mines and Tunnels in HRM?
<Reply # 21 on 12/5/2009 10:28 PM >
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Posted by tribeachpunk
Thought I'd post a link to my downtown Halifax tunnels map... I updated it with the Armoury tunnel.

Tunnels that don't likely exist are in red.


Are any of these still accessable? Like the one at the town clock for example?

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Re: Mines and Tunnels in HRM?
<Reply # 22 on 12/5/2009 10:35 PM >
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I remember hearing when I first moved here that there was a high posibility of there being or once being an entrance to the tunnel system at the Seahorse. Which would make sense...
I also remember hearing there might be or might have been an entrance in the Halifax Club... apparently the basement there is a total weird maze.

Again, these are just rumours.

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Re: Mines and Tunnels in HRM?
<Reply # 23 on 12/5/2009 11:00 PM >
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Posted by sonikgirl
I remember hearing when I first moved here that there was a high posibility of there being or once being an entrance to the tunnel system at the Seahorse. Which would make sense...
I also remember hearing there might be or might have been an entrance in the Halifax Club... apparently the basement there is a total weird maze.

Again, these are just rumours.


I remember the comment about the Halifax Club, here's the link, it's the bottom post by Urbandweller
TUNNELS-HALIFAX-DARTMOUTH

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Re: Mines and Tunnels in HRM?
<Reply # 24 on 12/6/2009 6:57 PM >
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Re: Mines and Tunnels in HRM?
<Reply # 25 on 12/6/2009 7:33 PM >
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I've seen this site before, nice of NR to let us know, lol. Last year at Georges Island, one of the reps at a tent had said that the plans to build a tunnel to the island were made, but construction had never actually taken place. Whether or not this was just Parks Canada trying to keep the secret, I don't know, but it's what the rep told me.

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Re: Mines and Tunnels in HRM?
<Reply # 26 on 12/6/2009 7:35 PM >
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If there was a tunnel, it'd have to go pretty darn deep, that harbor isn't exactly shallow, and I'm sure a tunnel like that would of collapsed over the decades. I still don't see the need to keep any of this a secret, its all history really.

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Re: Mines and Tunnels in HRM?
<Reply # 27 on 12/7/2009 12:51 PM >
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Posted by nootz
I've seen this site before, nice of NR to let us know, lol. Last year at Georges Island, one of the reps at a tent had said that the plans to build a tunnel to the island were made, but construction had never actually taken place. Whether or not this was just Parks Canada trying to keep the secret, I don't know, but it's what the rep told me.


i had a slightly different conversation with a different DNR worker. he claimed that the DNR had no information of any type on a tunnel to the island, though he readily mentioned the existing tunnels on the waterfront, and felt that it "would make sense" to try to connect to the island. he was under the impression that the technology wasn't physically available at the time to build such a tunnel, which may or may not be true.
i think the tunnel to the island is something that the DNR reps don't know for certain anymore than we do, and are just repeating their opinions, not fact. however, what the DNR knows and what they tell might be two different things. if i was trying to hide a tunnel, i certainly wouldn't tell my workers, who may in turn tell others. after all, the best way to keep a secret is to keep it a secret.

the first tunnel under the Thames river was in 1843 (according to wikipedia), which makes it possible for a tunnel under Halifax Harbour. the distances are similar, but did we have the actual capacity to do something like that at the time? we were building the fortress at the time, which would suggest that we had digging equipment for a tunnel (shovels and prayers?). but tunnels under water are more complicated than tunnels under land, and are extremely expensive and time consuming.
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Re: Mines and Tunnels in HRM?
<Reply # 28 on 12/9/2009 2:48 PM >
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I think its been proven without a doubt that tunnels to Georges are pretty unlikely, and if they did exist they would have to originate somewhere around where the Westin/Pier 21 is now located, if they originated from the Citadel they would have been enormous and would have had to be built on such an angle that would have made them nearly impossibly long and difficult to construct, they would have to slope downward vertically and horizontally at the same time due to the slope of the harbour bed, and even back then engineers would have known that the easiest place to put the tunnel would also be the shortest. The only thing i can think of is maybe a tunnel was at one time built from the citadel to Fort Massey, and then from Fort Massey (unlikely timeframe?) out to georges island. Then again who knows, it's an old city.

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Re: Mines and Tunnels in HRM?
<Reply # 29 on 12/10/2009 3:54 AM >
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Anyone been in the downtown tunnels on here?

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Re: Mines and Tunnels in HRM?
<Reply # 30 on 12/10/2009 3:59 AM >
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Posted by Jonnie B
Anyone been in the downtown tunnels on here?


I highly doubt it. Access is virtually impossible unless you have some kind of connections within the HRM higher ups.

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Re: Mines and Tunnels in HRM?
<Reply # 31 on 12/17/2009 9:48 PM >
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Posted by nootz
I don't know if the thread still exists somewhere on the site or not, but I recall somebody saying that somewhere in the basement of Scotia Square, there's an access point, but it's locked up or something. Can't remember exactly how it went. Point is: if there is access, it's probably in a place where we can't get into without a damned good reason.

I believe that was probable me (holy crap, I haven't posted here in ages...)
The doors are in the bottom level of the parkade, in one of the stair wells. However, they definitely wouldn't have been doors to tunnels, they looked like all the rest of the doors to the mall, except they were locked and the glass was covered. I would imagine it was once a second entrance to the mall from the parkade, possibly a direct entrance to a department store.

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Re: Mines and Tunnels in HRM?
<Reply # 32 on 12/17/2009 9:52 PM >
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I believe that was probable me (holy crap, I haven't posted here in ages...)
The doors are in the bottom level of the parkade, in one of the stair wells. However, they definitely wouldn't have been doors to tunnels, they looked like all the rest of the doors to the mall, except they were locked and the glass was covered. I would imagine it was once a second entrance to the mall from the parkade, possibly a direct entrance to a department store.

I should really start posting here again...


It may have also been a secondary entrance to the mall from before the parkade was there.

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Re: Mines and Tunnels in HRM?
<Reply # 33 on 12/17/2009 10:15 PM >
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This would be below ground level, on the Market Street side, so doubtful.

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Re: Mines and Tunnels in HRM?
<Reply # 34 on 12/24/2009 2:26 PM >
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Well if it helps I can tell you guys that 80% of the 'secret' tunnels which run under Glasgow, Scotland ARE accessible from shops and businesses built over the access points.

Many of the runs are used by the stores concerned as storage, to the extent that you can't get past all the CRAP they have amassed there.

If that's how it's done in Olda-Scotia, I don't see why Nova-Scotia would be so different?

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Re: Mines and Tunnels in HRM?
<Reply # 35 on 12/25/2009 5:30 PM >
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I doubt this is the case, the tunnels in Glasgow & Edinburgh were once open roadways and streets and were built on top of. The tunnels under Halifax were dug out after the city was built. And from what I've seen in documentaries and photos, it would seem that the tunnels under Hali don't have any space for storage.

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Re: Mines and Tunnels in HRM?
<Reply # 36 on 12/25/2009 6:13 PM >
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The access point in the Seahorse, if it exists, points to access from shops though.

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Re: Mines and Tunnels in HRM?
<Reply # 37 on 12/26/2009 6:25 PM >
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Shop access maybe, but all I'm saying is that it's not like Scotland, our tunnels don't have enough space to store shop items in, they're more like corridors than storage spaces.

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Re: Mines and Tunnels in HRM?
<Reply # 38 on 12/26/2009 7:03 PM >
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Posted by nootz
I doubt this is the case, the tunnels in Glasgow & Edinburgh were once open roadways and streets and were built on top of.


Uh, no. The tunnels in Glasgow were built in the 17/1800's - underneath the roads and streets which were built there hundreds of years previously.

You are referring to 'Grahamston' - the precursor town to Glasgow, the sole remnants of which are still around somewhere under Central Station.

http://www.grahamston.com/

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Re: Mines and Tunnels in HRM?
<Reply # 39 on 12/26/2009 8:37 PM >
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Posted by nootz
Shop access maybe, but all I'm saying is that it's not like Scotland, our tunnels don't have enough space to store shop items in, they're more like corridors than storage spaces.


Some of them could be large enough... But I get what you're saying, they probably aren't used much by anyone who might be able to access them.

They were primarily for military use, big enough to move a cart through. I'm sure I could stack some chairs, for example, in a tunnel and store them there if I had access.

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