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Heartless location: Dakota Territory Gender: Male nowhere is a state of mind \| \| \|	Re: Fingerprints <Reply # 20 on 3/23/2004 4:16 AM >

	Krenta, are you sure you're not a cop? "I hope that I find you in heaven, because I'm so lost without you down here..." Lost Highway Photography

wingedkamui location: Milwaukee, WI Gender: Female Like a chocoholic, but for booze. \|	Re: Fingerprints <Reply # 21 on 3/24/2004 1:14 AM >

	I've bitten my nails and the skin around them bloody since I first grew teeth, and now at age 22 I have smooth, printless patches on several fingers, where I repeatedly stripped skin away as soon as it grew back. Gross, huh? knit gloves might work... though I expect someone more knowlegable about criminal justice will come along and correct me on this. Je suis une brave poule de geurre je mange peu et produis beaucoup http://www.livejournal.com/users/wingedkamui

Macsbug

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Re: Fingerprints
<Reply # 22 on 3/24/2004 1:35 AM >

Posted by ExKa|iBuR
Not all latex is porus - condoms, for example, aren't

Enter condom man, explorer of all crevices.

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Krenta

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Nope, wasn't me.

Re: Fingerprints
<Reply # 23 on 3/24/2004 2:56 AM >

Posted by Heartless
Krenta, are you sure you're not a cop?

Affirmative. I'm positive.

For what it's worth, I *believe* that all latex is permeable; it's just that it doesn't permit blood, semen, and other (comparatively) large things through. Water and skin oils still make it through... Nitrile is much less porous, but it's also a lot less elastic/stretchy, which (I believe) is why it's not used for condoms.

It's useless trivia, but latex was used for wetsuits in the late '40s through late '50s, and as I understand it the whole point with a wetsuit is that it lets water in and holds it against the body.

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NoSuchPerson Stop, or I'll ask you again! \|	Re: Fingerprints <Reply # 24 on 3/24/2004 3:41 AM >

	The best way to prevent your fingerprints from going onto something is to not touch it! But in all seriousness... Use leather work gloves and you'll be fine. You could always double-wrap ;) -Ex Unit calling radio say again?

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Re: Fingerprints
<Reply # 25 on 3/24/2004 3:44 AM >

Posted by Krenta
...and as I understand it the whole point with a wetsuit is that it lets water in and holds it against the body.

Isn't the whole point to keep water out, but to keep heat in?

Posted by wingedkamui
I've bitten my nails and the skin around them bloody since I first grew teeth, and now at age 22 I have smooth, printless patches on several fingers, where I repeatedly stripped skin away as soon as it grew back. Gross, huh?

I can relate. Mine are the same way. I'm also at the point where the nails no longer grow back, or grow back extremely slowly. I've tried that stuff you put on your nails that tastes bad, I've just learned to like it.

"I feel like I just got in a battle of wits with some kid in a helmet I found licking a window."

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NoSuchPerson Stop, or I'll ask you again! \|	Re: Fingerprints <Reply # 26 on 3/24/2004 3:49 AM >

	No. Wetsuit == makes you wet Drysuit == keeps you dry. A wetsuit is designed to allow water to get in your suit, which your body then warms up, keeping you warm throughout the dive. These are designed to allow minimal water flow to keep as much water against your body as possible, which is controlled by the snugness of the suit. A drysuit is designed to not let any water against your skin, and are made larger than are required, allowing you to wear warmer clothes under your suit. Is one better then the other? Yes and no. Wetsuits are good for areas where the ambient temperature of the water is already pretty decent (ie, diving off the coast of Florida), but a drysuit is better for diving in, say, the Great Lakes, where the water is already pretty cold. -Ex Unit calling radio say again?

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Re: Fingerprints
<Reply # 27 on 3/24/2004 4:03 AM >

Posted by ExKa|iBuR
No.

Wetsuit == makes you wet

Drysuit == keeps you dry.

A wetsuit is designed to allow water to get in your suit, which your body then warms up, keeping you warm throughout the dive. These are designed to allow minimal water flow to keep as much water against your body as possible, which is controlled by the snugness of the suit.

A drysuit is designed to not let any water against your skin, and are made larger than are required, allowing you to wear warmer clothes under your suit.

Is one better then the other? Yes and no. Wetsuits are good for areas where the ambient temperature of the water is already pretty decent (ie, diving off the coast of Florida), but a drysuit is better for diving in, say, the Great Lakes, where the water is already pretty cold.

-Ex

I didn't even know there were two different kinds. Thanks for the enlightenment Ex.

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Mark Very Noble Donor location: South Carolina Gender: Male What is a lion, king of the savannah, when hes at the south pole? \|	Re: Fingerprints <Reply # 28 on 3/24/2004 6:30 AM >

	ExKal see my post about leather gloves. Remeber OJ. "If the threat level goes up its probably because of me." "I am looking for a girl who enjoys headbutting beltbuckles"

NoSuchPerson Stop, or I'll ask you again! \|	Re: Fingerprints <Reply # 29 on 3/24/2004 3:21 PM >

	Hey, if the glove fits.. Unit calling radio say again?

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Re: Fingerprints
<Reply # 30 on 3/25/2004 11:46 PM >

Posted by ExKa|iBuR
But in all seriousness... Use leather work gloves and you'll be fine.

Actually, the thing about leather is that it can leave a finger print too. Just like human skin- animal skin has different marks on the skin. If they suspect you of something, and manage to get a warrent (not likely), and they find the gloves used (not likely), they could match them with the prints on the site (also not likely). But hey... just my two cents.

Pity the poor agnostic dyslexic insomniac; he stays up all night, wondering if there really is a dog.

Heartless location: Dakota Territory Gender: Male nowhere is a state of mind \| \| \|	Re: Fingerprints <Reply # 31 on 3/25/2004 11:58 PM >

	So burn the gloves afterwords. Sheesh "I hope that I find you in heaven, because I'm so lost without you down here..." Lost Highway Photography

SnakeEyes

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Re: Fingerprints
<Reply # 32 on 3/26/2004 12:00 AM >

Posted by Heartless
So burn the gloves afterwords. Sheesh

leather gloves are really expensive!

Pity the poor agnostic dyslexic insomniac; he stays up all night, wondering if there really is a dog.

Heartless

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Dakota Territory
Gender: Male

nowhere is a state of mind

Re: Fingerprints
<Reply # 33 on 3/26/2004 12:09 AM >

Posted by SnakeEyes

leather gloves are really expensive!

So is jail.

"I hope that I find you in heaven, because I'm so lost without you down here..."

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Re: Fingerprints
<Reply # 34 on 3/26/2004 2:37 AM >

Posted by Heartless

So is jail.

You might as well NOT wair leather gloves! Just get nylon or cotton or some other type of synthetic.... or I guess you could hide the gloves

Pity the poor agnostic dyslexic insomniac; he stays up all night, wondering if there really is a dog.

HAMMERTIME location: Reading Pennsylvania Gender: Male mmm, a box . . . just a box \|	Re: Fingerprints <Reply # 35 on 3/27/2004 4:23 AM >

	First of all, unless you find a dead body at the UE site or did some major crime there, the cops probably wont even bother taking prints. For those of us who have our prints on file with the Man, it is always smart to take precautions. Acid, burning, disfigurement, are all extremely painful - many nerve endings in the fingertips, and as mentioned above, only help to identify you more. one exception where a person had totally smooth prints was a guy who had a surgeon remove his prints and he then secured his hands to his chest where new skin grew. He then had to cut his fingers from his chest. He still got caught and they figured it out because of the five finger scars on his chest. another option for those who don't want to wear gloves (and aren't into sadomasochistic pain )is to cover your fingers in superglue and allow it to dry WITHOUT TOUCHING ANYTHING !!!! and . . . WITHOUT TOUCHING THE FINGERS TOGETHER !!! this covers up the print. A less dangerous method is to cover the fingertips in liquid bandage (i.e. NewSkin) which also covers the fingerprint. HAMMER p.s. The Irish mob was known to kill a guy and keep his hand so that they could plant his prints at crime scenes. But I hope that the tunnel rats here dont become grave diggers - that really goes against the UE concept. [last edit 3/27/2004 4:26 AM by HAMMERTIME - edited 1 times]

orangeindiana

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Meh.

Re: Fingerprints
<Reply # 36 on 3/28/2004 9:36 PM >

Posted by HAMMERTIME
First of all, unless you find a dead body at the UE site or did some major crime there, the cops probably wont even bother taking prints.

Thank you. Someone finally said it. You're going to have to get yourself into a LOT of trouble for the police to actually dust for fingerprints. Far more than the UE forums are intended to help you get into and out of. So while this conversation is interesting, I would hope that it isn't applying to anybody's actual UE activities.

one exception where a person had totally smooth prints was a guy who had a surgeon remove his prints and he then secured his hands to his chest where new skin grew. He then had to cut his fingers from his chest. He still got caught and they figured it out because of the five finger scars on his chest.

I remember reading about this a while ago, although he actually had grafted skin onto his fingertips, not just allowed his fingers to grow into his back (which is entirely unpractical and I doubt it'd actually be attempted). In the account I read, he was caught by using the prints midway down his finger, which he had left -- yep, they use those too.

So far, most of the methods that people have mentioned in the forum for "altering" fingerprints are impractical, short-lasting or otherwise not workable. Burns cover up, but they're incomplete and are not permanent. The ridges will grow back when new tissue forms, so cutting/burning/otherwise removing the skin won't work unless you replace it with a graft or cut down your fingers a LOT farther than you'd want.

another option for those who don't want to wear gloves (and aren't into sadomasochistic pain )is to cover your fingers in superglue and allow it to dry WITHOUT TOUCHING ANYTHING !!!! and . . . WITHOUT TOUCHING THE FINGERS TOGETHER !!! this covers up the print.

I wouldn't recommend this. Super glue isn't very good for the skin, it's difficult to remove, and there are more practical ways to go about it (gloves). Not to mention the good laugh the police would have if you got caught. "Um... I was working on a model plane."

A less dangerous method is to cover the fingertips in liquid bandage (i.e. NewSkin) which also covers the fingerprint.

It'd certainly be safer, but Second Skin, NuSkin, etc. tends to slip off pretty easily; you need to cover it with a bandage or something else to hold it on, which you could do anyway.

Like someone said earlier, it's generally a good idea to wear gloves just to protect your hands. I think the more important thing to worry about is not doing stuff that would motivate the law to look for your prints in the first place.

Stench \|	Re: Fingerprints <Reply # 37 on 4/5/2004 8:26 AM >

	Cutting or burning off your finger prints is rediculous. You would leave marks of fingers but no prints then they would just identify you as the kid with no fingerprints. IM RICK JAMES BITCH!

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