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Johnny Bravo
 
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|  | | | Has anyone ever used a rope ladder before or know how eazy/hard it is to climb one ? I found a cave, but its a 40 foot drop to get inside, all I could think of was a rope ladder. Id think it would be hard to climb unless you have something to keep the bottom from swinging.
I started on making one and it seems sturdy enough to use, it just takes forever to tie.
Heres what I have so far.
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HairyTheTaco
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<Reply # 1 on 3/6/2004 3:20 PM >
| | | | Climbing a "pure-rope" ladder like they way you are making yours will be kinda difficult. If you can secure the bottom and make it more tight when you hange it, it will be much more easier to climb.
Also, you could make one with wooden slats for steps, that way you can use less rope. Just use a few one-foot long lengths of wood, and drill two holes the same diameter as the rope at the ends, and use knots in the rope to secure the board in place on the rope. The ladder would be a lot more bulkier and heavier, but with the ridged ladder rungs, it will be a little easier to climb.
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Macsbug
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<Reply # 2 on 3/6/2004 4:24 PM >
| | | | Johnny, thats an interesting design you have, did you think of it on your own, or get it from someone/somewhere else?
I would say just tie the end to a cinder block, and let that just rest on the ground, because otherways you will be swinging all over, not unlike Tarzan...
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<Reply # 3 on 3/6/2004 4:30 PM >
| | | | Can you post the knots for that?
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<Reply # 4 on 3/6/2004 4:53 PM >
| | | | If I get my knot book this week I'll post several rope ladders. His is pretty good. However it sucks up lots of rope
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<Reply # 5 on 3/6/2004 6:02 PM >
| | | | Don't know if you have the money to afford it, but Lowe's, Home Depot, and other home improvement store usually sell escape ladders (or online). They run anywhere from US$50.00 - US$200.00.
http://www.safetyproductsunlimited.com/kidde_escape_ladder.html
Maybe, maybe not, it looks small and portable. Lightweight and efficient... Just a thought.
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Macsbug
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<Reply # 6 on 3/6/2004 6:23 PM >
| | | | You can get a two story escape ladder from Home Depot for about $30 - I was looking there earlier, doesnt look like it takes up too much space, and it should be sturdy.
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Johnny Bravo
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<Reply # 7 on 3/6/2004 8:09 PM >
| | | | No I didnt come up with the idea myself, I ran across it doing a search for rope ladders. Its not all that hard to do, but it takes some time to build it.
Back in the old days cable ladders were used to get into vert. caves, but since SRT came along the ladders kind of fadded out, KarstSports.com still sells cable ladders, http://store.karstsports.com/lmscableladder.html .
This is what I found, its kind of hard to see how to do it, but it shouldnt take too long to figure out how to tie it, you have to start at the middle and work your way down when your tieing it. This type of rope ladder is referred to as a Knotted Bathing Ladder
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Rockman1
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<Reply # 8 on 3/6/2004 10:38 PM >
| | | | The best and safest way to go is to rappell down then use an ascending device to get back up. It's fast, safe and easier to set up than any rope ladder.
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Mark
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<Reply # 9 on 3/6/2004 11:18 PM >
| | | | The escape ladders are NOISEY as hell. As for the people that dont want to dump 60 bucks a pop into ascenders and 20 for a figure 8 the rope ladder works fine. Generally a little hevey but hey not as bad as the 30 dollar escape ladder. Its all a matter of opinion I generally likethe repel ascend thing but its a bitch to carry and use all that stuff at once.
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MacGyver
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<Reply # 10 on 3/6/2004 11:18 PM >
| | | | I am fond of using technical climbing gear, but it should be said that using the ropework approach is only safer if you know what you are doing. If you lack training in technical climbing and ropework, I'd stick to the rope ladder idea.
I've wanted to make one for some time now using lengths of steel electrical conduit and thin aircraft cable. I had it all planned out so it would be lightweight and sleek, but I never got around to actually building one.
I would use 3/4" conduit cut into rungs maybe 8" wide. I would drill through the middle of the pipe on each side about 1/4" from the edge. The aircraft cable would then be slid into the holes and have a swage fitting crimped on inside the pipe, eliminating clutter.
Alternately, you could use the kind of cable clamps with the saddle and U bolt, but these might be trickier to work with.
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sympathy in chaos
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<Reply # 11 on 3/7/2004 2:06 AM >
| | | | Yeah, I got nice book on Single-Rope Technique. Too bad I have nowhere to test it out on.
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RadEd
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<Reply # 12 on 3/7/2004 3:19 AM >
|  | | | why not just tie loops?
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MacGyver
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<Reply # 13 on 3/7/2004 4:22 AM >
| | | | Loops are another option. Use butterfly knots if you do.
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Curious_George
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<Reply # 14 on 3/7/2004 5:59 AM >
| | | | I've made a rope ladder and its been quite a useful tool. Mine is made of waterski towling rope and I simply put butterfly loops in it and for hooks I used those two dollar yellow C-shaped utility hooks one can get from Home Repot or Revy.
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Willow
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<Reply # 15 on 3/9/2004 2:38 AM >
|  | | | Posted by Johnny Bravo
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how long a ladder did you get from how much rope
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Johnny Bravo
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<Reply # 16 on 3/9/2004 7:17 AM >
| | | | I have a 60 meter rope that Im working with, I bought the rope for SRT, but started making a rope ladder out of it because Im too cheep to get all the gear. I only have two knots in it because #1 it takes forever to tie the knot, #2 you have to pull half of the rope through all the time to make the knot, & #3 if I ever get gear itll take twice as long to untie the rope.
Plan on useing 1-2 feet of rope per knot and then however many feet betweeen knots per side, so youll be under half of what you started with.
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<Reply # 17 on 3/10/2004 4:49 PM >
| | | | Another alternative that I have seen, which will help more when you are starting at the bottom and have no way to reach up and attach the rope ladder is a teliscopic latter. I've seen them on TV, those home shopping network stations. They are about two feet by three feet and can stretch out to damn near twelve feet. The cost is pretty high and I don't know whether it will be worth carrying them, but I guess that depends on the situation.
http://www.youcansave.com/ladder10.asp
(Edit: Added link and corrected/added info.)
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Fairuza
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| | | Re: Rope Ladders
<Reply # 18 on 3/10/2004 7:36 PM >
|  | | | Rope ladders DO swing quite a bit, especially when climbing back up them but it's nothing to worry about as long as you have it securely fastened to something stable at the top. If you've ever done ANY rock climbing, even recreationally, you won't have much trouble at all ascending a rope ladder, your body weight is enough to keep it from swinging so much that you'd fall off so rope ladders are very good versatile, easily portable tools and yours looks really good.
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<Reply # 19 on 3/11/2004 4:50 AM >
| | | | Heres a good site with lots of knots.... realknots.com if it doesent come up on your browser search for it with google.
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