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|  | | | For a long time I do research on an old U.S. military base located in James Bay at the Bears islands. The site will soon be decontaminated by a Canadian organization... The building had already been razed, but it would still have two large underground bunker.... I was wondering if anyone had more information about it?
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<Reply # 1 on 4/7/2009 6:33 AM >
| | | | What research makes you think the "secret" base has two underground bunkers?
I'm assuming it was a Cold War era Pinetree or Mid Line related site -- either RADAR or radio-relay. Most were above-ground for expediency, & it was easier to heat an above-ground structure than a below-ground one in Arctic climates. Most didn't have 'bunkers,' either -- the biggest physical threat was the cold, & bears.
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<Reply # 2 on 4/7/2009 9:35 AM >
| | | | Posted by /-/ooligan
What research makes you think the "secret" base has two underground bunkers?
I'm assuming it was a Cold War era Pinetree or Mid Line related site -- either RADAR or radio-relay. Most were above-ground for expediency, & it was easier to heat an above-ground structure than a below-ground one in Arctic climates. Most didn't have 'bunkers,' either -- the biggest physical threat was the cold, & bears.
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I lived in the far north of Canada many years ago and several pilot name this place like that. One pilot who is a friend working on the decontamination projet heard about bunkers, but he dont see them... The base was closed in the early 70s according to some. In addition, many old pieces of boat were found on the island. The limited information I had, I doubt that this old military base was used only for radar and telecomm.
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<Reply # 3 on 4/7/2009 11:27 AM >
| | | | Not likely an MCL station. There's one in Winisk, and one in Great Whale River, Quebec. There weren't any in between.
It's not Pinetree (too far north) and not DEW (too far south).
If it was radar at all, it was likely another purpose.
Not much help, I know, but a start.
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<Reply # 4 on 4/7/2009 1:24 PM >
| | | | Thanks to a work-free morning, I've had time to further research this, and I stand corrected.
Bear Island WAS, apparently, the site of an MCL picket station. Strangely, it was not marked on the map of MCL sites at the website dedicated to MCL at http://www.lswilson.ca/mcl.htm but according to other research, it was indeed.
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<Reply # 5 on 4/8/2009 4:51 AM >
| | | | Posted by XBEN
I lived in the far north of Canada many years ago and several pilot name this place like that. One pilot who is a friend working on the decontamination projet heard about bunkers, but he dont see them... The base was closed in the early 70s according to some. In addition, many old pieces of boat were found on the island. The limited information I had, I doubt that this old military base was used only for radar and telecomm.
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You say you've been researching the place for a long time -- please share some of your findings with us. For example, what were the official names of the installation, and what organization operated it, with what missions?
So it's seeming like you don't have any first or second-hand, primary source information about "bunkers," --more specifically "two large underground bunker" being there?
There are lots of different definitions to bunker. Try doing a Google search on the word & you'll come up with hits about treacherous sand bunkers at golf courses, and fuel prices for ships. Even using a basic definition for what we're interested in -- hardened structures designed to protect against physical threats, most of us have a tendency to fantasize that a rumored "military bunker" is some cavernous, secret underground structure when the reality is a lot of times the "bunker" turns out to just be a small, isolated facility where they used to store flammable materials or something. I'm attaching a photo of the "bunker" at the former Naval Facility Point Sur in Central California. Not exactly what someone would envision if "a bunker at a secretive US Navy Cold War era site" is mentioned! It measures about 10x15 inside & was used to store hazardous materials (sorry, not nuclear weapons, but paints, solvents, etc.).
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<Reply # 6 on 4/8/2009 7:18 AM >
| | | | Posted by /-/ooligan
You say you've been researching the place for a long time -- please share some of your findings with us. For example, what were the official names of the installation, and what organization operated it, with what missions?
So it's seeming like you don't have any first or second-hand, primary source information about "bunkers," --more specifically "two large underground bunker" being there?
There are lots of different definitions to bunker. Try doing a Google search on the word & you'll come up with hits about treacherous sand bunkers at golf courses, and fuel prices for ships. Even using a basic definition for what we're interested in -- hardened structures designed to protect against physical threats, most of us have a tendency to fantasize that a rumored "military bunker" is some cavernous, secret underground structure when the reality is a lot of times the "bunker" turns out to just be a small, isolated facility where they used to store flammable materials or something. I'm attaching a photo of the "bunker" at the former Naval Facility Point Sur in Central California. Not exactly what someone would envision if "a bunker at a secretive US Navy Cold War era site" is mentioned! It measures about 10x15 inside & was used to store hazardous materials (sorry, not nuclear weapons, but paints, solvents, etc.).
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HEY! I do not have much clearer information on this place ... I did several searches on google, but without success ... I am not familiar with military terms, sorry! If I doubt my sources, I would not call this story here!
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<Reply # 7 on 4/8/2009 11:30 AM >
| | | | If it was, as appears, a MCL site, there's not much exciting about it.
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<Reply # 8 on 4/20/2009 12:24 AM >
| | | | Posted by PhotoSeeker
Thanks to a work-free morning, I've had time to further research this, and I stand corrected.
Bear Island WAS, apparently, the site of an MCL picket station. Strangely, it was not marked on the map of MCL sites at the website dedicated to MCL at http://www.lswilson.ca/mcl.htm but according to other research, it was indeed.
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You don't look around enough on that site. The sites listed on the main page are of the control stations.
http://www.lswilson.ca/mclsitemap.jpg
It's (er was) home to sites 412 and 413.
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<Reply # 9 on 5/19/2009 9:07 PM >
| | | | really informative post, thx
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<Reply # 10 on 8/3/2009 7:55 PM >
| | | | Posted by /-/ooligan
There are lots of different definitions to bunker. Try doing a Google search on the word & you'll come up with hits about treacherous sand bunkers at golf courses, and fuel prices for ships. Even using a basic definition for what we're interested in -- hardened structures designed to protect against physical threats, most of us have a tendency to fantasize that a rumored "military bunker" is some cavernous, secret underground structure when the reality is a lot of times the "bunker" turns out to just be a small, isolated facility where they used to store flammable materials or something. I'm attaching a photo of the "bunker" at the former Naval Facility Point Sur in Central California. Not exactly what someone would envision if "a bunker at a secretive US Navy Cold War era site" is mentioned! It measures about 10x15 inside & was used to store hazardous materials (sorry, not nuclear weapons, but paints, solvents, etc.).
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HAHAHAHA you cant even define that as a bunker cause its not ive never seen that building/"type of building" being called a bunker those are more barreks ie where people live or like you said store chemicals but that would never be clasified as any bunker some kid probly just poset it online as a bunker
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| | | Re: Old secret military base in Nunavut
<Reply # 11 on 8/5/2009 3:37 AM >
| | | | The term bunker is pretty broad.
http://www.answers.com/bunker
| A military bunker is a hardened shelter, often buried partly or fully underground, designed to protect the inhabitants from falling bombs or other attacks. |
The term bunker should not only apply to the fortification in /-/ooligan's photo, but to other types of establishments such as trenches and pillboxes.
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