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Nemo location: North Carolina Gender: Male \| \|	Buildering < on 2/9/2004 4:15 AM >

	Does anyone have any advice on buildering.... how to get started, equipment, good building types?

Macsbug Noble Donor location: St. Paul, MN Gender: Male Safety First! \| \|	Re: Buildering <Reply # 1 on 2/9/2004 4:22 AM >

	It seems like many building climbers do not use much or any equipment - generally free climb. I say just look for a low easy to get on building, or one with many landings between levels, and work up from there, plan out an idea of how you think you will get up before you start, and assuming you will be free climbing, be sure not to do anything that you are not comfertable with, or do not feel safe doing. From using search function: http://www.uer.ca/forum_showthread.asp?fid=1&threadid=1598&currpage=1&pp#post0 http://www.urbanfreeflow.com/ "Believe those who are seeking the truth; doubt those who find it."

j0lt location: Kobe, Japan Gender: Male \| \|	Re: Buildering <Reply # 2 on 2/11/2004 1:24 AM >

	buildering.net run by Ardarvin is a really good site to check out. It's great fun as long as you know what you're doing and feel comfortable with the height and difficulty of the climb. j0lt: Larger than life and twice as ugly!

Rockman1 Noble Donor location: Depends on the time of day Gender: Male \|	Re: Buildering <Reply # 3 on 2/11/2004 2:59 AM >

	Thank god for people like that, they keep me well paid and employed! Gettin' close to an overload...everyday's a no win situation..

DSM2nr203 location: Saratoga Springs, NY Gender: Male \| \|	Re: Buildering <Reply # 4 on 2/17/2004 3:09 AM >

	One other thing: MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A WAY DOWN! You dont want to get to the top only to realize your stuck up there

Macsbug Noble Donor location: St. Paul, MN Gender: Male Safety First! \| \|	Re: Buildering <Reply # 5 on 2/26/2004 7:56 PM >

	Ok, I've got a question. Does anybody know of a way to climb a sharply angled basic house roof? I can sit on a less steep part of my roof fine, and love to do so during the summer, but I would like to get to the peak (summit...) of my roof, but it is pretty steep gettng up there. I dont need to be quick or sneaky, but would like to figure out a way to get up semi-safely, and not make any modifications to the roof (nailing stuff to it, etc.) Any Thoughts? "Believe those who are seeking the truth; doubt those who find it."

Ricotta Nobler Donor location: Houston, TX Gender: Male De arimasu~ \|	Re: Buildering <Reply # 6 on 2/26/2004 7:58 PM >

	Throw a grappling hook over the top and hook it to the overhang on the other side of the house.

Macsbug

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Re: Buildering
<Reply # 7 on 2/26/2004 8:07 PM >

Posted by Damien Nightbane
Throw a grappling hook over the top and hook it to the overhang on the other side of the house.

Nope, for one I dont have a grappling hook, and two, it's a plastic rain gutter on the other side, which I would not trust to hold my weight.

"Believe those who are seeking the truth; doubt those who find it."

Ricotta

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Houston, TX
Gender: Male

De arimasu~

Re: Buildering
<Reply # 8 on 2/26/2004 8:10 PM >

Posted by Macsbug

Nope, for one I dont have a grappling hook, and two, it's a plastic rain gutter on the other side, which I would not trust to hold my weight.

Sounds like you're screwed then.

White Rabbit Women's Advocate location: Missouri Gender: Male \| \|	Re: Buildering <Reply # 9 on 2/26/2004 9:11 PM >

	Modify Damien's idea a bit. Pull your car/truck/whatever away from the house a bit. Tie a rope to the bumper or axel or something secure, throw the rope over the house, and climb up from the other side. --WR Underground Ozarks http://www.undergroundozarks.com Missouri, Arkansas, Oklahoma, and Kansas

HAMMERTIME location: Reading Pennsylvania Gender: Male mmm, a box . . . just a box \|	Re: Buildering <Reply # 10 on 3/28/2004 5:34 AM >

	Just so happens, this ninja wannabe used to be a roofer. If the roof is covered in shingles, you may be able to gently lift the tab and use it as a handhold. Problem is that they sometimes rip off or you can't lift the tab because the tar has welded that sucker to the roof. Make sure to attempt this while you are above the dormer; if you lose your grip or slip, you slide down to the dormer and not off the roof. We would often use "chicken ladders", take 12 chickens, (not roosters, they make too much noise) . . . Lol, sorry, its late here. A chicken ladder is a lath strip ladder with a 90 degree angle at the top to catch the top of the roof - this isn't very practical for stealth but maybe (never tried) you could take an expandable pole and attach a 90 degree angle to the end to catch the roof. You would need to hold it low against the roof as you climbed up it. if the roof is slate, you can get a slate ripper and push it up under the slate to grab the nail that secures it. this does no damage and you could use two of them to work your way up the roof. (imagine a slate ripper as to that of a door opening slim jim but with a bent grip at the end). Another option that leaves a trace but should not do damage for a shingle roof, is to use a number of those small tree steps look-a-like things that hunters use to hold their bow in their tree stand. You lift up the shingle tab (if you don't want to damage the roof) and twist that sucker in. Now you have a foot support. From a ninja perspective, make sure to place a cloth or leaves in the roof's rain gutter at the edge of the roof so that the little shingle pebbles don't go Ding a ling a ling as they hit the gutter or roll off the roof and hit Sam Security Guard on his head. I like the rope tied to an anchor / car idea for scaling a roof, cudos . . . just make sure to wing that sucker hard and not hit any electrical lines. HAMMER

chud111 location: reading, uk Gender: Male \|	Re: Buildering <Reply # 11 on 3/28/2004 5:31 PM >

	Is there any kind of cure for vertigo? Its very frustrating that I want to climb things but I can't unless its enclosed like a tree or cave. I just freeze up once I'm about 2m up.

MacGyver location: St Paul, Minnesota Gender: Male "Someone go find me a paperclip, a D-cell battery, and a cheese grater" \|	Re: Buildering <Reply # 12 on 3/28/2004 6:47 PM >

	Only two meters?? My head is roughly two meters up. Like a fiend with his dope / a drunkard his wine / a man will have lust for the lure of the mine "If you are not part of the solution, you are not dissolved in the solvent."

chud111 location: reading, uk Gender: Male \|	Re: Buildering <Reply # 13 on 3/28/2004 7:10 PM >

	That is why its so frustrating. Its like being scared of going half way up a flight of stairs.

HAMMERTIME location: Reading Pennsylvania Gender: Male mmm, a box . . . just a box \|	Re: Buildering <Reply # 14 on 3/29/2004 4:18 AM >

	Chud111, It's pretty much the same for any fear, you have to take baby steps (kinda reminds me of that Bill Murray movie) anyway, start with going up see-through steps, few floors at a time. Take a ladder and climb a few rungs for a few weeks until you can go up another rung. The first time I climbed up a ladder with a pack of shingles on my back, I thought for sure that I would die, but my roofing boss (believe it or not, an Ex-Navy SEAL) just yelled "Move your ass up that ladder, it AINT gonna fall You Shit stick (a medical device for testing the stool)!!! Well, I got up that roof and now I want to jump out of a plane. Have confidence in yourself, find a person who will help you and motivate you and you'll be swinging on a grappling hook in no time. Good luck. HAMMER

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Dakota Territory
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nowhere is a state of mind

Re: Buildering
<Reply # 15 on 3/29/2004 6:00 AM >

Posted by MacGyver
Only two meters?? My head is roughly two meters up.

Okay, I'll admit it. I'm not the greatest fan of heights, especially while climbing a small pipe up the side of Krazy's workplace...I guess you could call it more common sense, i.e. when the danger factor increases, I get quiet, but hey I'm not going to kid myself.

Here's a tip though, it's all mental. You KNOW your body is fully capable of doing something but it's your mind that takes your thoughts away from the task at hand. Just concentrate, and do it. It's a good feeling once you're done.

I rock climb every now and then, I'm a pilot, and I love being on high places. It's just the getting down part that sucks

"I hope that I find you in heaven, because I'm so lost without you down here..."

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chud111 location: reading, uk Gender: Male \|	Re: Buildering <Reply # 16 on 3/29/2004 6:08 PM >

	Thanks for the advice.

Freak location: Usually Alaska, now MSP. Gender: Male Hypocrite \| \|	Re: Buildering <Reply # 17 on 3/30/2004 12:10 AM >

	I'd suggest going to a rock climbing gym and messing around on the wall, maybe take a class if it's offered but otherwise just get someone to belay you and see how you do at different heights and different types of holds. I've gotten a lot more confidence about my ability to hang onto small ledges and holds from rock climbing, and it helps in buildering as well. As with anything, constant practice helps improve your ability and confidence, I haven't had time to get to the gym much this semester and I'm losing some of my climbing skills Personally I love heights, I always want to get to the tallest part of a building or structure (the dredges up here have all kinds of rusty, shakey ladders and gantries to play on). I've probably taken a few stupid risks and I've found myself hanging off of rocks and ladders a few times, but if you take a few precautions you can lower the danger. If you're up high or not sure of the floor, move along a wall or use something (like machinery, pipes, etc) to take some of your weight off and provide a backup if you fall. You can also use regular climbing gear for buildering with little or no modification, I've rappelled into elvator shafts and bunkers and used a harness for backup in some cases, a lot of towers and other ladders these days have safety cables up the middle that you can clip a carabiner into for fall protection. I haven't personally used a grappling hook, a friend of mine used one to get on top of our high school and ended up getting himself into the police blotter Turn off the internet and go play outside. http://spamusement...hp/comics/view/137

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