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BeaverBanker location: Canunkastan Gender: Male A Hobo In A Orange Sweater \|	DEBERT BUNKER TOURS < on 7/9/2008 4:22 PM >

	BUNKER TOURS ARE SCHEDULED: July 12 & 13, August 9 & 10, September 6 & 7, and October 4 & 5 2008 Please call the Museum at 662-2860 for information on Tours. They stopped doing them a while ago. so if you want in. now is the time! http://www.debertm.../diefenbunker3.htm video of CARP to give you a idea http://archives.cb...r/topics/274-1469/ [last edit 7/9/2008 4:35 PM by BeaverBanker - edited 1 times]

BeaverBanker location: Canunkastan Gender: Male A Hobo In A Orange Sweater \|	Re: DEBERT BUNKER TOURS <Reply # 1 on 7/9/2008 4:24 PM >

	I will be attending a fall one. Sept or Oct

nootz location: Lake Echo, NS Gender: Male Many will always go where only one is needed \| \|	Re: DEBERT BUNKER TOURS <Reply # 2 on 7/10/2008 3:05 AM >

	I'll probably go next month. Have faith only in those who you trust. And hold who you trust close to you for you have no idea when you will need them most. http://nootz101.blogspot.com

reduxzero location: Edmonton, AB Gender: Male \| \|	Re: DEBERT BUNKER TOURS <Reply # 3 on 7/16/2008 2:20 PM >

	Do it. The guide I had was very thorough, and it's fascinating stuff to see. reduxzero - DrainsofmyCity

thparkth location: Bedford, NS Gender: Male nulla regula sine exceptione \| \|	Re: DEBERT BUNKER TOURS <Reply # 4 on 7/16/2008 4:20 PM >

	Sounds pretty interesting. For those who've been before, is it fairly photography friendly?

thparkth location: Bedford, NS Gender: Male nulla regula sine exceptione \| \|	Re: DEBERT BUNKER TOURS <Reply # 5 on 7/22/2008 5:32 PM >

	To answer my own question, photography will be permitted FROM AUGUST when the ownership of the site will change.

nootz location: Lake Echo, NS Gender: Male Many will always go where only one is needed \| \|	Re: DEBERT BUNKER TOURS <Reply # 6 on 7/23/2008 9:22 AM >

	Ownership?? Who's owning it now, and who's going to be owning it after August? Have faith only in those who you trust. And hold who you trust close to you for you have no idea when you will need them most. http://nootz101.blogspot.com

thparkth location: Bedford, NS Gender: Male nulla regula sine exceptione \| \|	Re: DEBERT BUNKER TOURS <Reply # 7 on 7/23/2008 10:57 AM >

	I didn't have the opportunity to have a long conversation with the guy to ask those questions (I was at work) but it seems there's been a dispute over who actually owns it... http://thechronicl...iness/1068136.html I'm not impressed by the idea of the province selling a major historical site to an IT company for a mere $150,000 so that they can close it off, and presumably, cut off the Debery Military History Society's main source of funding - the bunker tours. [last edit 7/23/2008 11:03 AM by thparkth - edited 1 times]

tribeachpunk location: Halifax, NS Gender: Male \| \|	Herald.ca: Diefenbunker for sale? <Reply # 8 on 7/25/2008 2:27 PM >

	From last Friday's Herald: --- Bunker mentality on talks IT firm tight-lipped after court ruling restarts negotiations on Debert purchase By CLARE MELLOR Business Reporter Fri. Jul 18 - 5:36 AM Bastionhost Ltd. of Halifax and the Colchester Regional Development Agency have resolved a dispute stemming from the IT company’s attempt to buy a Cold War-era bunker in Debert. The 63,000-square-foot underground fall-out shelter — nicknamed the Diefenbunker — was built in the 1960s to protect political and military leaders in the event of a nuclear strike. "Negotiations (for the sale) are continuing," Alan Johnson, spokesman for the Colchester Regional Development Agency, said Thursday. But Bastionhost, a startup company with plans for a village of data centres to provide high-security IT services and storage for the financial services industry in New York and London, is holding its cards close to its chest. "It would place us at a disadvantage to be very specific about what we have and have not yet purchased," Anton Self, Bastionhost’s founder and CEO said Tuesday. "I don’t really want to start blaring the horn about property that may be available, that we have identified as being valuable, onto our prospective competitors." The bunker was handed over to the community along with the rest of Canadian Forces Station Debert when the military closed down the site in 1997. The sale of the bunker to Bastionhost was scheduled to close last Sept. 30, but the two parties ended up before a judge in Halifax due to a disagreement over the purchase and sale agreement. Bastionhost had originally agreed to buy three buildings at the former base from the agency for $1.5 million. They included the bunker at $150,000; a hangar at $850,000; and the Debert Hospitality Centre for $500,000, according to court documents. But Bastionhost decided to proceed only with its purchase of the bunker, alleging the development agency had not met its stipulation that the three buildings would be able to have a secure perimeter with no public roads cutting through. The Colchester Regional Development Agency refused to accept the purchase of the bunker alone. Bastionhost took the matter to court, alleging breach of the purchase and sale agreement, but in November, Justice John M. Davison refused to rule on the issue, saying the matter would have to be decided at trial. In June, Bastionhost unveiled its plans for "Dataville," a secure, data centre concept, at a major IT industry conference in Boca Raton, Florida. A Bastionhost news release issued during the conference said Dataville is located in Atlantic Canada, "on the Great Circle Route between New York and London," and will address infrastructure problems of the booming data centre industry. "Bastionhost is creating a secure campus of state-of-the-art data centres in repurposed military-surplus data-centre buildings that benefit from reliable and affordable power sources and geothermal cooling," the release said. Data centres provide homes for the information technology systems that provide online services, such as banking and airline reservation systems, as well as the millions of computer servers that drive the Internet. "Data centres are a very significant consumer of power, and the computer servers are very significant consumers of power, and some ways we are conserving power by the way we cool the computer server are fairly cutting-edge and very environmentally sustainable," said Mr. Self, a native of New York. Bastionhost, which has a number of shareholders and headquarters in Halifax, has already acquired data centre facilities, Mr. Self said. He declined to disclose their location. The company is also looking at other sites, besides Debert. These sites are in other areas of Canada and "as far away as Argentina," he said. "I’m not at liberty to disclose what facilities are at what stage and I am definitely not at liberty to disclose specific facilities. I have really tried very hard to stay out of the local press," Mr. Self said. The release announcing the debut of Dataville was for the IT industry and not meant for the general public, he said. "I am very happy to disclose information to the local news media when we feel it would be beneficial, but at this point, our marketplace isn’t really here, and I just find that it generates a lot of noise rather than beneficial attention to us," he said. Bastionhost has registered 13 people who are lobbying the Nova Scotia government on behalf of the company. The registry indicates Bastionhost will lobby the provincial Justice Department for strong privacy laws that encourage computer-systems hosting in the province. It will also lobby the province for improvement of information technology infrastructure and legislation that would make the region attractive to the financial services industries in New York City and London. ( cmellor@herald.ca) ’It would place us at a disadvantage to be very specific about what we have and have not yet purchased.’ --- http://www.thechro...iness/1068136.html Halifax UrbEx (Blog) \|\|\| Atlantic Canada Urban Exploration Facebook Group

darbycrashin Noble Donor location: Halifax, Nova Scotia Gender: Female \|	Re: Herald.ca: Diefenbunker for sale? <Reply # 9 on 7/25/2008 8:05 PM >

	I think someone in the other thread mentioned that someone bought it already. edit: most vague post ever. hah. [last edit 7/25/2008 8:06 PM by darbycrashin - edited 1 times] Flickr http://flickr.com/photos/klandry

DaveDabruchey \|	Re: DEBERT BUNKER TOURS <Reply # 10 on 8/4/2008 5:03 PM >

	I lived in Debert for 4 years when I was a younging. My father worked next door to that place in the communication bunker. The woods around Debert are full of ruins and foundations, as well as roads to nowhere which were part of parade squares and everything else. During the 2nd WW Debert was Huge ( triple the size of Truro) and used to train pilots for the Battle of Briton.

nootz location: Lake Echo, NS Gender: Male Many will always go where only one is needed \| \|	Re: DEBERT BUNKER TOURS <Reply # 11 on 8/5/2008 12:15 AM >

	How accessible are these ruins though? Like are there fences surrounding the (former) CFB Debert, or could you just walk onto the land without being penalized? Have faith only in those who you trust. And hold who you trust close to you for you have no idea when you will need them most. http://nootz101.blogspot.com

daltus location: Kingston ON Gender: Male \|	Re: DEBERT BUNKER TOURS <Reply # 12 on 8/5/2008 3:43 AM >

	I used to fly out of Debert and spent many weekends in the woods and trails surrounding the airport. There are some cool ruins out there, namely, the firing wall where they used to sight the guns of the planes, and an old crashed Banshee that was never entirely cleaned up. Also, referring to the bunker. I've had friends who were staff with the air cadets on camps there (they stay in the bunker now during the summer) and one visit up there they took me through all of the "other" areas that are off limits to tours and whatnot. A very interesting place indeed. Most notable are the map rooms (huge room with maps for all of Canada and the North Atlantic) and the "node", a room entirely insulated by a thick brass shell so no radio waves could come in or go out.

DaveDabruchey

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<Reply # 13 on 8/5/2008 2:06 PM >

How accessible are these ruins though? Like are there fences surrounding the (former) CFB Debert, or could you just walk onto the land without being penalized?

The ones I’m taking about you can get to without any problem. There all around outside the old Base parameter. As I kid me and my friends played in them and made a fort in the foundation of some building . You can ever go on the base now to walk around/drive around. I think it’s just the bunkers you can’t get into.

I would like to know where the old hospital grounds are out there although I don’t think there is anything left.

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