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funker_joe
location: Boulder, Colorado Gender: Male
| | | | | Arrest @ Gates READ IMMEDIATELY! < on 10/2/2007 1:16 AM >
| | | Hi everyone... a friend of mine got busted at Gates. He got charged with 2nd degree burglary. (Which is a felony by the way.) In Colorado, 2nd degree burglary qualifies as "entering a building [with intent to commit a crime]". So he just got out of jail. His bail was set to $5000. His friend is still in there, and this happened on Tuesday. He had in his possession a old switch panel. I would assume that it's theft & trespassing but he apparently had "intent" according to them. Just something to keep in mind if you're thinking about going.
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Boffo
Moderator location: Smithers, BC Gender: Male
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| | Re: Arrest @ Gates READ IMMEDIATELY! <Reply # 1 on 10/2/2007 1:31 AM >
| | | Posted by funker_joe He had in his possession a old switch panel. I would assume that it's theft & trespassing but he apparently had "intent" according to them.
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Nope, sounds like burglary.
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funker_joe
location: Boulder, Colorado Gender: Male
| | | | | Re: Arrest @ Gates READ IMMEDIATELY! <Reply # 2 on 10/2/2007 1:35 AM >
| | | Who's to say whether he had intent or not? Not to mention the entire building & everything in it will be in a landfill in a couple months.
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Boffo
Moderator location: Smithers, BC Gender: Male
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| | Re: Arrest @ Gates READ IMMEDIATELY! <Reply # 3 on 10/2/2007 1:50 AM >
| | | Posted by funker_joe Who's to say whether he had intent or not? Not to mention the entire building & everything in it will be in a landfill in a couple months.
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Because it's going to be landfill doesn't really matter to the police. They see a guy carrying an old switch panel who's currently trespassing and arrest him with intent to break the law while unlawfully entering a premises. Again, how does this not sound like second degree burglary?
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funker_joe
location: Boulder, Colorado Gender: Male
| | | | | Re: Arrest @ Gates READ IMMEDIATELY! <Reply # 4 on 10/2/2007 1:55 AM >
| | | Just because he stole something doesn't mean it was a conspiracy to do so. I'm not saying it was wrong to bust him. I'm saying it's wrong to charge him with a felony for something that was worthless to the owner. He could have just as easily been charged with theft and trespassing but they decided to be hardasses about it. I don't think it was any reason to be jailed by any means.
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junkyard
location: LaCrosse, WI Gender: Male
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| | | Re: Arrest @ Gates READ IMMEDIATELY! <Reply # 5 on 10/2/2007 4:13 AM >
| | | This isn't canada asshole. Theft of a switch isn't a fellony. If he talks to the DA, it'll be a misdomeaner. I'm not sure about Colorado, but usually it needs to be more than $1000 to get fellony cahrges. They always go high and let you plead down. He needs to fight it, it will be an easy 'win' if you want to call it that. If he talks nice and pretends like he cares, there's a chance he gets off with trespassing. You catch more flies with honey and all. But you're right Boffo, he fucked up and got caught. Lesson 1 don't get caught. Lesson 2 play dumb and innocent. lesson 3 take your fuckin medicine.
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Boffo
Moderator location: Smithers, BC Gender: Male
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| | Re: Arrest @ Gates READ IMMEDIATELY! <Reply # 6 on 10/2/2007 4:42 AM >
| | | I was reading the Colorado laws at the time... asshole.
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junkyard
location: LaCrosse, WI Gender: Male
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| | | Re: Arrest @ Gates READ IMMEDIATELY! <Reply # 7 on 10/2/2007 5:30 AM >
| | | I like that. Don't take it personally. I just hate canadia because they wouldn't let me in to go rapelling behind Niagra Falls. Still, nothing is over here til the fat lady sings.
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funker_joe
location: Boulder, Colorado Gender: Male
| | | | | Re: Arrest @ Gates READ IMMEDIATELY! <Reply # 8 on 10/2/2007 8:52 AM >
| | | Hey, hey. I didn't mean to start a flame war or anything... The point is to watch the hell out if anyone had planned on going in there any time soon. Whether I think it was disproportionate force is irrelevant.
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junkyard
location: LaCrosse, WI Gender: Male
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| | | Re: Arrest @ Gates READ IMMEDIATELY! <Reply # 9 on 10/12/2007 3:34 AM >
| | | Oh it's all in good fun. Part of being a junkyard. Stupid pink-who-cares-ticket charges are easy to beat/plead down. That was the general point.
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MHInc
This member has been banned. See the banlist for more information. location: Niagara Falls, Ontario Canada Gender: Male
| | | Re: Arrest @ Gates READ IMMEDIATELY! <Reply # 10 on 10/12/2007 3:41 AM >
| | | Posted by junkyard I like that. Don't take it personally. I just hate canadia because they wouldn't let me in to go rapelling behind Niagra Falls. Still, nothing is over here til the fat lady sings.
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And Canada hates you for making a Blatant spelling error on it's name and not giving it a capital "C"
Posted by funker_joe Who's to say whether he had intent or not? Not to mention the entire building & everything in it will be in a landfill in a couple months.
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FYI Intent was there when he was caught with the switchboard in his hand. in·tent –noun 1. something that is intended; purpose; design; intention: The original intent of the committee was to raise funds. 2. the act or fact of intending, as to do something: criminal intent. 3. Law. the state of a person's mind that directs his or her actions toward a specific object. 4. meaning or significance. [last edit 10/12/2007 3:43 AM by MHInc - edited 2 times]
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nohbdy
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| | Re: Arrest @ Gates READ IMMEDIATELY! <Reply # 11 on 10/12/2007 4:06 AM >
| | | junkyard is right, i pleaded my last one down to the point it was off public record and i only had to pay $120 + $90 court fees
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Raticus
Moderator location: Tyler Gender: Male
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| | Re: Arrest @ Gates READ IMMEDIATELY! <Reply # 12 on 10/12/2007 1:19 PM >
| | | I know the laws are different from place to place, but I really wouldn't think that a felony charge for stealing a switch cover would stick. I think he can plead that down. Way down.
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junkyard
location: LaCrosse, WI Gender: Male
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| | | Re: Arrest @ Gates READ IMMEDIATELY! <Reply # 13 on 10/12/2007 2:32 PM >
| | | The DA needs a conviction usually. As long as he gets them, he looks good. If it is total BS from some jackass cop that used to get beat up in high school and now has a badge (there are some) the DA will throw it out if he thinks it is a waste of time and money to fight it with little chance of winning. After all it is just trespassing and some garbage, in a building he really doesn't have any reason to care about, not like the court house. An old missileer I know who was raised in a tradition that more often than not was rightly called SAC, once said a DA is just a lawer that couldn't make it in private practice. He's been walking that tight line since the 60's.
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Intrinsic
location: Collingwood Gender: Male
| | Re: Arrest @ Gates READ IMMEDIATELY! <Reply # 14 on 10/13/2007 3:44 AM >
| | | Posted by junkyard I like that. Don't take it personally. I just hate canadia because they wouldn't let me in to go rapelling behind Niagra Falls. Still, nothing is over here til the fat lady sings.
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You call another member an 'asshole' for no reason other than a difference of opinion and tell him not to take it personally?
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Akron
location: Colorado Gender: Male
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| | Re: Arrest @ Gates READ IMMEDIATELY! <Reply # 15 on 10/13/2007 8:36 AM >
| | | You have a point, but its Junkyard. He does that, don't take it so seriously. Remember that this is the internet, tone and expression are omitted.
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Raticus
Moderator location: Tyler Gender: Male
Ratus exploricus abandonae
| | Re: Arrest @ Gates READ IMMEDIATELY! <Reply # 16 on 10/13/2007 4:23 PM >
| | | We're having this same discussion in another forum, even more intense than this one. Not saying sudbury is doing this, but there are some people on UER that take this stuff waaaayyyy too seriously. On the other hand, there are some people who spout off offensive comments to people who don't know them, and it tends to start a bunch of e-fussing. Ha... I just created a new word. E-fussing.
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imprezawrxsti
location: Portland, OR Gender: Male
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| | | Re: Arrest @ Gates READ IMMEDIATELY! <Reply # 17 on 10/13/2007 5:29 PM >
| | | right, so the point is, if you go to Gates, don't get caught. got it.
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funker_joe
location: Boulder, Colorado Gender: Male
| | | | | Re: Arrest @ Gates READ IMMEDIATELY! <Reply # 18 on 10/14/2007 2:55 AM >
| | | I saw three teen to 20s aged guys waltzing around the inside of the Gates fence today in broad daylight when I was riding on the light rail. Lolz.
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MHInc
This member has been banned. See the banlist for more information. location: Niagara Falls, Ontario Canada Gender: Male
| | | Re: Arrest @ Gates READ IMMEDIATELY! <Reply # 19 on 10/14/2007 3:48 AM >
| | | Posted by funker_joe I saw three teen to 20s aged guys waltzing around the inside of the Gates fence today in broad daylight when I was riding on the light rail. Lolz.
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Did any of these teen to 20's guys have a switchboard in hand?
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