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Re: Grappling Hooks!
<Reply # 60 on 4/20/2007 4:53 PM >
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Posted by secretdestroyers
Ok so i know how grappling hooks work but how would you go about retrieving a hook once you come back down? assuming that you cant go another way.


you pull the hook down when you get to the top. redo your ropes, and rappel down.

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Re: Grappling Hooks!
<Reply # 61 on 5/6/2007 10:38 AM >
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i have a problem keeping grip on the rope that came on my hook cuz its not terribly thick...anyone got any pointers?

it would be nce not to have to put knots in it for grip

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Re: Grappling Hooks!
<Reply # 62 on 5/6/2007 9:10 PM >
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What's it's diameter, anything between 10-11mm can be used with specialised ascenders

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Re: Grappling Hooks!
<Reply # 63 on 5/8/2007 10:23 AM >
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Posted by nyxviii
i have a problem keeping grip on the rope that came on my hook cuz its not terribly thick...anyone got any pointers?

it would be nce not to have to put knots in it for grip


Tie loops into it, but this will eat alot of the rope up.. Also if you have the same hook I have, burn the rope it came with as it's too thin to be useful and doesn't 'safely' hold the weight of a person.. We used it once in a pinch and the line snapped.. I 'highly' recommend buying 10-11mm static line.. Then I recommend learning to use ascenders and descenders as well as learning to free-climb rope..

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Re: Grappling Hooks!
<Reply # 64 on 5/9/2007 12:55 AM >
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well ive used the loops and ive used prusiks for ascenders but im just looking for tips on free climbing it

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Re: Grappling Hooks!
<Reply # 65 on 5/9/2007 12:59 AM >
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and im not sure of the diameter but 10mm is a fair estemate

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Re: Grappling Hooks!
<Reply # 66 on 5/9/2007 6:26 AM >
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Posted by nyxviii
well ive used the loops and ive used prusiks for ascenders but im just looking for tips on free climbing it


Ok.. Is this the hook and rope set you got?


If thats it then burn the rope.. trust me..
As for free climbing the rope

And for a lil self promotion, this is the 'best' way to freeclimb a rope that I know of..
http://www.uer.ca/...rrpage=2&pp#post23

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Re: Grappling Hooks!
<Reply # 67 on 5/19/2007 4:23 AM >
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Hasn't anyone thought about the safety of throwing a fairly heavy and POINTY piece of steel streight up in the air? I hope you have your tetanus shots!

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Re: Grappling Hooks!
<Reply # 68 on 5/19/2007 2:14 PM >
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Posted by Alx_xlA
Hasn't anyone thought about the safety of throwing a fairly heavy and POINTY piece of steel streight up in the air? I hope you have your tetanus shots!


.. Why in gods name would you throw it straight up? And practice makes perfect, just improve your aim on a tree in your backyard.. That way a second/third story window can be hit in a throw or two..

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Re: Grappling Hooks!
<Reply # 69 on 6/5/2007 2:20 AM >
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ok i havnt been on in a LONG time so here it goes as far as comments, pics, and ideas

this is an EZ hook normally used for hammers i find it quite usefull for my grappling hook when carrying it

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Duncantx - amazing equipment sight thank u very much, ive already bought the zippo upgrade and it is flawless

MindHacker - i used rubber hose to tightly cover the metal parts and THEN i saw ur reply about the rubber stuff and i tried it and it was perfect and i have used it for a alot of other things as well

and A-BOMB - could u get close ups of your grappling hook for me because i really wanna see exactly how it works

and whoever had the idea of the Petzl GriGri ... words cannot explain how fantastic that thing is lol

i have a lot more ideas but i NEED to study for finals. plz comment on the pics about wut u think(its basic i know but u can get the thing at Home Depot and it makes the carrying your grappling hook less of a pain in the ass



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Re: Grappling Hooks!
<Reply # 70 on 6/7/2007 4:01 PM >
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I wasn't going to post in this topic about how stupid this whole subject was, but since you asked for comments...

This whole subject is stupid.

What happens when security or the cops roll around the corner and see some guy climbing up the side of a building? Or worse, they see you standing on the ground trying to throw your grappling hook at a window? "Oh, hello officer, I was just practicing my l337 ninja skillz on this abandoned building while trespassing and possessing burglars tools, I hope you don't mind!" It's also much more suspicious for any normal person to see you scaling the side of a building and increases the likelihood that they will call the cops on you.

That's not even mentioning the obvious personal safety hazards. How do you know the hook/rope/point of contact isn't going to break halfway up to the third story? How do you know the point of contact is even secure? What if you just mess up and fall to your death? Personally I wouldn't risk my immediate safety to enter... well, anything, really.

I think it's just as or more stupid than carrying lockpicks or a crowbar.

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Re: Grappling Hooks!
<Reply # 71 on 6/7/2007 6:36 PM >
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Posted by LuminousAphid
I think it's just as or more stupid than carrying lockpicks or a crowbar.


I don't agree (although the grappling hook launcher is mostly impractical).

I've personally gotten into places I otherwise wouldn't have because I had a grappling hook. Some places you just can't get a ladder to (without getting arrested anyway). Sometimes it's the only way to get through that broken second story window or whatever.

I'm not denying a lot of people just want one because it's a stupid ninja thing. But they're handy to have.

(And I think lockpicks are excellent to have in certain situations.)

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Re: Grappling Hooks!
<Reply # 72 on 6/7/2007 9:51 PM >
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Posted by White Rabbit
I've personally gotten into places I otherwise wouldn't have because I had a grappling hook.


Is that supposed to make me believe it's any less stupid to carry? Like I said, I wouldn't add risks to my safety or likelihood of getting charged with a felony just to get into a building. Have fun when you get charged with a felony and have to live the rest of your life semi-free.

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Re: Grappling Hooks!
<Reply # 73 on 6/8/2007 12:09 AM >
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Posted by LuminousAphid
I wasn't going to post in this topic about how stupid this whole subject was, but since you asked for comments...

This whole subject is stupid.

What happens when security or the cops roll around the corner and see some guy climbing up the side of a building? Or worse, they see you standing on the ground trying to throw your grappling hook at a window? "Oh, hello officer, I was just practicing my l337 ninja skillz on this abandoned building while trespassing and possessing burglars tools, I hope you don't mind!" It's also much more suspicious for any normal person to see you scaling the side of a building and increases the likelihood that they will call the cops on you.

That's not even mentioning the obvious personal safety hazards. How do you know the hook/rope/point of contact isn't going to break halfway up to the third story? How do you know the point of contact is even secure? What if you just mess up and fall to your death? Personally I wouldn't risk my immediate safety to enter... well, anything, really.

I think it's just as or more stupid than carrying lockpicks or a crowbar.


Ok.. If you think it's stupid don't learn to use one and don't get one..
People also rarely look up so if yer 20ft up and a cop rolls past you it's doubtful he'd even notice you at all.. If your are just sitting in the open throwing a hook up at a building with no actual care of your surroundings then sure it may be possible for someone to see you standing there, or of course you could try being aware of your surroundings and not have that problem..

As for the argument of 'personal safety' clearly you can't use a hook and rope as a lifeline to cross sketchy flooring or to pull up a friend from a lower level if stairs gave out, no you can only use it for "l337 N1nj4" tactics.. Any time you enter an abandon or mothballed building that is left to rot you are making a rather large risk, so really maybe it's in your best interest to shut up get in the back and find a new hobby.. I also carry picks on me pretty much every where I go, now I /really/ gotta be a dumbass..

As for the launcher it's not that I want it so I can be some special ops wanna be guy, I see it as a fun project.. I'd be perfectly happy building a kickass hook/launcher then putting it on my wall and never using it.. If I did get to use it even better, but it'd like be to large for me to even think about using it in UE at all..

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Re: Grappling Hooks!
<Reply # 74 on 6/8/2007 1:19 AM >
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Those are really nice but I am over 6 foot and about 300 pounds I dont do ups I only do downs If I am not sure the floor would hold me I don't go there. 8^)

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Re: Grappling Hooks!
<Reply # 75 on 6/8/2007 4:18 AM >
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Posted by Pravus
now I /really/ gotta be a dumbass..


I didn't mean you were a dumbass, I just think these things are foolish things to do for quite obvious reasons. If you're dedicated enough to this hobby to take the risk of having your life ruined because of it, then good on you, but I'm not.

I'm just putting in my two cents; I think it's a bad idea. I'll leave it at that.

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Re: Grappling Hooks!
<Reply # 76 on 6/8/2007 4:49 AM >
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Posted by LuminousAphid
I didn't mean you were a dumbass, I just think these things are foolish things to do for quite obvious reasons. If you're dedicated enough to this hobby to take the risk of having your life ruined because of it, then good on you, but I'm not.

I'm just putting in my two cents; I think it's a bad idea. I'll leave it at that.


Eh.. I'm mostly fucking with you.. But yea hooks have their uses.. we normally don't bring ours outa the car but it's good to have some rope and a hook available in a pinch.. It's not a tool I would recommend bringing with you every time (mostly because rope and a hook weigh you down much more then anyone wants) but you can't deny that it could be damn nice to have access to one in certain situations..

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Re: Grappling Hooks!
<Reply # 77 on 6/8/2007 5:05 AM >
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Posted by LuminousAphid
Have fun when you get charged with a felony and have to live the rest of your life semi-free.


Brother, don't talk down to me or lecture me about risk. I've been through the wringer worse than anyone on this site. I've had a private detective hired to find me and then try to extort me with threats against my family. I've been legitimately threatened with lawsuits half a dozen times. And I've been arrested for trespassing in an active government building simply for crawling through a muddy tunnel into a basement.

Suffice to say, I know a little more about risk versus reward than you will ever learn and you can save your condescension and your lecturing for someone else.

And climbing a rope into a building? Not that big a fucking deal--if you're not a complete dumbass about it.

But please, don't come off your goddamn high horse on my account.
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Re: Grappling Hooks!
<Reply # 78 on 6/8/2007 5:12 AM >
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Posted by LuminousAphid
If you're dedicated enough to this hobby to take the risk of having your life ruined because of it, then good on you, but I'm not.


And if you think you're not risking having your life ruined because you're not carrying lockpicks or worse on you, then you're naive far beyond the people you're lecturing in this thread.

Quite a few people from this site, including myself, have damn near had their lives ruined for trespassing with nothing more than a flashlight and a camera.

There's nothing wrong with warning people of potential risk. But FYI, you're being a gigantic asshole about it.
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Re: Grappling Hooks!
<Reply # 79 on 6/8/2007 7:34 AM >
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Yeah, Pravus, I can understand their uses in some situations, but just understand my opinion is that they're not worth it, and I wouldn't use one. That's all I meant in the first place, not to insult anyone for using one.

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