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Infiltration Forums > Archived UE Photo Critiques > HDR - (Done right?) (Viewed 342 times)
Poll Question:
HDR:
Total Votes:21
1. I think this is HDR done right.733.33 %
2. Yeah, HDR has added something to these shots: but I'm still not convinced.838.1 %
3. No, I still think they look like the usual HDR crap.314.29 %
4. My house is made of bricks; and my wife of cheese!314.29 %

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HDR - (Done right?)
< on 1/11/2007 12:44 AM >
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Here's some shots I've taken in the last couple of months from various locations:





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I shot this one with five exposures: varying the angle of the light source in each: this has created a more balanced shot with details on the bottles visible which would not normally have been.

The following three shots were shot on an old, beaten up Canon G2 - the effect here is that they were produced with a more expensive camera with far tighter lateral contrast:




Would you really think an old POS Canon G2 produced the above!?



Possibly this shot looks a little less 'real' than some of the others; but I'm still pleased: the details on the lamp have come out far better than a single exposure could have produced.

It's hard to tell in some, but these are ALL HDR shots - basically I was going for the understated HDR, to bring out a lot more detail and contrast: without looking like a fantasy scene from a cheap colour adventure gaming book!

I think I've hit the balance OK in most, certainly in comparison to my first attempts which looked very HDR (not in a good way, in the garish colour and cloudy, fantasy way).

Whaddya' all think?

Chris...
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Re: HDR - (Done right?)
<Reply # 1 on 1/11/2007 1:05 AM >
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I think they look great.

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Re: HDR - (Done right?)
<Reply # 2 on 1/11/2007 1:19 AM >
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I think they look great.


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Re: HDR - (Done right?)
<Reply # 3 on 1/11/2007 1:59 AM >
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I only like HDR photos if its tone mapped. to be quite frank these photos do nothing for me. no intresting colors, lighiting or anything. try to get more depth into the photos.

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Re: HDR - (Done right?)
<Reply # 4 on 1/11/2007 3:02 AM >
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I love HDR, and I love the first one. The others like Seidenfaden said don't really do any thing for me. I would say all some more color to them.
I find that the depth of fieldis a bit messed, its i bit blurry in some parts. I seem to be haveing the same thing with my camera

As I speak im trying to make an HDR photo
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Re: HDR - (Done right?)
<Reply # 5 on 1/11/2007 10:54 AM >
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Sorry funboy, but tone mapping isn't a feature I can use on PhotoMatix (that I'm aware, please correct me if not... it's all new to me) - I'm not building these pics on PS-CS.

As for the overblown colours... That's exactly what I was trying to avoid?

Uhmmm, ok, I'll try for that next time*!

As for the DOF (whats left of the psych), yeah; it improves but slowly - my limitation is not having a remote for my D50 - so I can't do exposures longer than 30seconds... Which in a not so well lit place (like some of these photos) the smaller apertures are underexposing and there's no room to bracket.

Meaning - that some of my photo's have one 'point' that's nicely in focus but other portions are blurred. Must man up and buy that £15 remote!!

Chris...

*Well, really I won't.

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Re: HDR - (Done right?)
<Reply # 6 on 1/11/2007 2:00 PM >
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Other than the first one, they all just look like regular photos taken using any digital camera. I know HDR can be best when it's "subtle", but I don't see how it was used it to change/improve anything here. I guess I'd have to compare them to a single exposure from your g2 without any post-work done though.

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Re: HDR - (Done right?)
<Reply # 7 on 1/11/2007 2:24 PM >
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i think that the first shot is done right. without seeing the original shots it is a little hard to tell, but i dont think that you would be able to get all of that detail and light with a regular shot, unless the light was really good. i really like the rest but they dont have a HDR feel to me, which i think is great if they are done with post processing.

the second and thrid have a little bit of a pink tone to the ceiling details, but i am not sure if that is there or not. if it is natural then dont worry about it, and if not then i am not crazy about the pink tone.

I really really like the rest of them. they are really good pics, especially the second from last shot of the steps.

Keep up the good work...

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Re: HDR - (Done right?)
<Reply # 8 on 1/11/2007 3:22 PM >
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What exactly is "tighter lateral contrast"? Are you talking about dynamic range? if so, the DR given by your average point and shoot isn't really going to be any worse than a more expensive camera. 5 stops is just a limitation of current sensor technology...not a feature you can pay for.

I voted for these are done right because they look more or less like regular photographs with the exception of the last one. However, one problem remains: the lighting isn't that good in some of these. The first one in particular lacks any drama or real shadow areas at all. It need curves badly, and it probably needs to just be shot in less terrible lighting. I have a feeling that the HDR is contributing to this problem.

The second to last shot blows the others away in terms of composition, lighting, and use of HDR to actually make a compelling photograph rather than just to use it.

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Re: HDR - (Done right?)
<Reply # 9 on 1/11/2007 4:13 PM >
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Posted by desmet
What exactly is "tighter lateral contrast"? Are you talking about dynamic range? if so, the DR given by your average point and shoot isn't really going to be any worse than a more expensive camera. 5 stops is just a limitation of current sensor technology...not a feature you can pay for.


Oh, sorry: by that I mean the fact that the Canon G2 takes a picture (ANY picture) with a light source in it completely blows out the highlights and the shadows... Meter for the light and you totally loose all detail in the shadow - meter for the shadow and the light parts become a blur with no detail to be seen.

Do an average metering and they both look horrible.

This way, the scene with the door in the hall particularly, there is some detail in the lit areas and plenty more in the dark - it works around the limitation of that camera.

Posted by desmet
The second to last shot blows the others away in terms of composition, lighting, and use of HDR to actually make a compelling photograph rather than just to use it.


I agree matey, i think it's the best example of the HDR effect - it looked VERY flat when taken as a normal shot, now it has texture and depth.

Chris...

PS: As for before and after shots (Micro), apologies; but the originals are long gone. I will retain them for analysis in the future though, as with subtle shots as these it's really only plain on comparison I guess, hey?

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Re: HDR - (Done right?)
<Reply # 10 on 1/11/2007 9:20 PM >
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yeah, you couldve done the same stuff using curves. shrug.

[quote][i]Posted by yokes[/i]
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Re: HDR - (Done right?)
<Reply # 11 on 1/11/2007 9:30 PM >
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Posted by tron_2.0
yeah, you couldve done the same stuff using curves. shrug.


I could've?

Thanks for such a concise explanation on how to achieve that with Curves matey - it's lengthy, intricate and detailed answers like that which allow me to further improve my technique no end.



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Re: HDR - (Done right?)
<Reply # 12 on 1/12/2007 7:18 AM >
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too tired to explain it right now, but i feel this site does a decent job of explaining it:

http://www.cambrid...otoshop-curves.htm

sorry for such a vauge reply, man


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I find your lack of coziness.... disturbing.
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Re: HDR - (Done right?)
<Reply # 13 on 1/12/2007 2:50 PM >
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Posted by tron_2.0
too tired to explain it right now, but i feel this site does a decent job of explaining it:

http://www.cambrid...otoshop-curves.htm

sorry for such a vauge reply, man



Awesome dude, thanks.

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