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femaledragonx
     
location:
Detroit & Everywhere Else I can dream up to go to
The singularity is near
 |  | thermals and other cold weather gear
< on 11/6/2006 5:07 PM >
|  | | | i am a pitiful weanie when it comes to temperature extremes. so this week began the usual winter exploration dramas. hitting some upstate NY locations with my company from london (cheers to my family in the UK, 28 days later. she is safe and happy, but she refuses to sleep) and i found that i was too cold to truly enjoy my explore missions.
i was wearing two pairs of thermal pants layered, plus a pair of military surplus cargos overtop. upper body was similarly layered. i looked like a little kid whose parent has bundled them up into a puff ball of inflated layers.
...in other words, i looked like an idiot, and wasn't terribly coordinated either.
worse yet, even in this tragic fashion state, i was still too cold to be comfortable.
now my thermals were not made by any special company. they were purchased at target or walmart. but one would think it would be enough!
so now, i open some questions to the community. maybe some of you military buffs or techie people or other enthusiasts can point me in the right direction before i go on ebay buying random items and wasting funds.
i am looking for suggestions of what to look for in thermals, maybe specific brands or details to look for. interested in hearing about thermal socks, jackets, etc. i am also very interested in links to online shops that sell warm gear.
anything that will keep me warm. i don't want to stay in this winter, nor do i want to go out and be miserable.
please help. i hate the cold. wah!
"Collective fear stimulates herd instinct, and tends to produce ferocity toward those who are not regarded as members of the herd." -Bertrand Russell
"How we spend our days is, of course, how we spend our lives." ~Annie Dillard |
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Jonsered
  
location:
Back in New Mexico where I belong
Gender: Male
Dressed for a scarecrow ball.........
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<Reply # 1 on 11/6/2006 5:15 PM >
| | | | I will put in my two cents for battery operated socks and gloves. I have had mien for years, so I have no idea where to get them anymore, but they rock. If your extremities stay warm, so does the rest of you.
As for thermals, you might try these guys:
http://www.campmor...000226&storeId=226
This is where I buy most of my outdoor gear, and they have never let me down.
I have changed my personal exploring ethics code. From now on it will be: "Take only aimed shots, leave only hobo corpses." Copper scrappers, meth heads and homeless beware. The Jonsered cometh among you, bringing fear and dread.
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Duncantx
location:
Tulsa, OK
Gender: Male
| | Re: thermals and other cold weather gear
<Reply # 2 on 11/6/2006 5:41 PM >
| | | | buy those little reactive heat packets, they last 7 hours and are cheap.
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dsankt
location:
live and in the fresh
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<Reply # 3 on 11/6/2006 5:54 PM >
| | | | I'm a fan of merino wool thermals, it's much finer and softer than normal wool so doesn't itch. It comes from sheep that live high in the new zealand mountains. It's very warm for its weight, keeps you warm when wet, has a moisture wicking effect, doesn't retain odour and it maaaad comfy.
Otherwise go for something made from a synthetic material like polartech powerdry. Keeps you warm, dries very quickly, has a wicking effect to move moisture away from your skin and is reasonably cheap. It will retain odours more than wool.
It comes down to personal preference really. The warmth has to come from somewhere so you'll need a lil bit of bulk.
Also check out the softshell jackets, the warmth of a fleece but wind resistance, water resistance, stretchy and usually pretty tuff. That's the black jacket I wore most of the time while I was there.
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femaledragonx
location:
Detroit & Everywhere Else I can dream up to go to
The singularity is near
| | Re: thermals and other cold weather gear
<Reply # 4 on 11/6/2006 7:00 PM >
| | | | Posted by Jonsered
I will put in my two cents for battery operated socks and gloves. I have had mien for years, so I have no idea where to get them anymore, but they rock. If your extremities stay warm, so does the rest of you.
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good point about extremities. i had ear muffs and a hat on, but my feet were cold. i was wearing two pairs of regular socks. maybe i will be looking into those really wooly thermal socks.
thanks for the link as well. cheers!
"Collective fear stimulates herd instinct, and tends to produce ferocity toward those who are not regarded as members of the herd." -Bertrand Russell
"How we spend our days is, of course, how we spend our lives." ~Annie Dillard |
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Mark
Very Noble Donor
location:
South Carolina
Gender: Male
What is a lion, king of the savannah, when hes at the south pole?
| | Re: thermals and other cold weather gear
<Reply # 5 on 11/6/2006 8:05 PM >
| | | | You can't get much colder then a hunter or a soldier. Those guys will hunt polar bares butt naked in the middle of a hail storm in antatica.
That being said there are a few nifty products on the market, and normal techniques.
I suggest a tight under armor shirt, followed by a long sleeve tshirt, synthetic fleece(so you dont water issues) followed by a good winter jacket. Layer Layer Layer is the key.
Next you need to get wrist warmers. They have electric or fleece ones. The appendages suffer not because the appendage is cold, but warm blood is shut off to the hands. Keeping your wrists warm allow warm blood to flow into your hands more readily.
Go to the bathroom before you leave home(less to heat).
Wear somethign warm on your head. Knitted isn't as good as fleece in this department.
Also neck gators are great! Its like a turtle neck but it can be pulled up to cover your lower facial area and some are long enough to go up the back of your head. Although you will look like a ninja when your done.
"If the threat level goes up its probably because of me." "I am looking for a girl who enjoys headbutting beltbuckles" |
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femaledragonx
location:
Detroit & Everywhere Else I can dream up to go to
The singularity is near
| | Re: thermals and other cold weather gear
<Reply # 6 on 11/6/2006 9:58 PM >
| | | | Posted by Mark
I suggest a tight under armor shirt, followed by a long sleeve tshirt, synthetic fleece(so you dont water issues) followed by a good winter jacket. Layer Layer Layer is the key.
Next you need to get wrist warmers. They have electric or fleece ones. The appendages suffer not because the appendage is cold, but warm blood is shut off to the hands. Keeping your wrists warm allow warm blood to flow into your hands more readily.
Go to the bathroom before you leave home(less to heat).
Wear somethign warm on your head. Knitted isn't as good as fleece in this department.
Also neck gators are great! Its like a turtle neck but it can be pulled up to cover your lower facial area and some are long enough to go up the back of your head. Although you will look like a ninja when your done.
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great ideas! thanks. you guys are great. keep it coming. i'm looking up links.
"Collective fear stimulates herd instinct, and tends to produce ferocity toward those who are not regarded as members of the herd." -Bertrand Russell
"How we spend our days is, of course, how we spend our lives." ~Annie Dillard |
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Duncantx
location:
Tulsa, OK
Gender: Male
| | Re: thermals and other cold weather gear
<Reply # 7 on 11/7/2006 12:13 AM >
| | | | lol do what bums do, stuff your jacket with newspaper.
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Pravus
location:
Chicago Area
Gender: Male
Now the two key words for tonight - "caution" and "flammable"...
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<Reply # 8 on 11/7/2006 8:00 AM >
| | | | I'd also recommend Under Armor, you could get an entire body suit of thier stuff including a balaclava.. that plus your normal winter crap should keep you toasty
Live to Serve, Serve to Live.. |
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Mark
Very Noble Donor
location:
South Carolina
Gender: Male
What is a lion, king of the savannah, when hes at the south pole?
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<Reply # 9 on 11/7/2006 10:28 AM >
| | | | Posted by Pravus
I'd also recommend Under Armor, you could get an entire body suit of thier stuff including a balaclava.. that plus your normal winter crap should keep you toasty
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Also when you wear your body armor wear it inside out its far more comfortable. Just make sure you get it tight just not to tight.
Although I don't like balaclava's as much any more They work rather nicely to keep your face warm.
"If the threat level goes up its probably because of me." "I am looking for a girl who enjoys headbutting beltbuckles" |
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DeMiNe0
location:
Brooklyn, NY
Gender: Male
DeMiNe0.CoM
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<Reply # 10 on 11/7/2006 3:09 PM >
| | | | Yup, under armor is the way to go. Some people say wetsuits work well to, although i think the under armor would work better in terms of coldness.
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marissa_obscura
location:
brooklyn new york
Gender: Female
maybe in the next world
| | | Re: thermals and other cold weather gear
<Reply # 11 on 11/7/2006 3:15 PM >
| | | | Posted by femaledragonx
i am a pitiful weanie when it comes to temperature extremes. so this week began the usual winter exploration dramas. hitting some upstate NY locations with my company from london (cheers to my family in the UK, 28 days later. she is safe and happy, but she refuses to sleep) and i found that i was too cold to truly enjoy my explore missions.
i was wearing two pairs of thermal pants layered, plus a pair of military surplus cargos overtop. upper body was similarly layered. i looked like a little kid whose parent has bundled them up into a puff ball of inflated layers.
...in other words, i looked like an idiot, and wasn't terribly coordinated either.
worse yet, even in this tragic fashion state, i was still too cold to be comfortable.
now my thermals were not made by any special company. they were purchased at target or walmart. but one would think it would be enough!
so now, i open some questions to the community. maybe some of you military buffs or techie people or other enthusiasts can point me in the right direction before i go on ebay buying random items and wasting funds.
i am looking for suggestions of what to look for in thermals, maybe specific brands or details to look for. interested in hearing about thermal socks, jackets, etc. i am also very interested in links to online shops that sell warm gear.
anything that will keep me warm. i don't want to stay in this winter, nor do i want to go out and be miserable.
please help. i hate the cold. wah!
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I can not deal with the cold one bit. Im from Brooklyn Ny and the thought of even stepping outside to feel any cold is just something i can not deal with. i cant imagine living some where really cold. I was worrying about how to layer myself too. im a pretty "thick" girl but that doesnt do anything for me during the winter time! haha. we're in the same boat : (
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marissa_obscura
location:
brooklyn new york
Gender: Female
maybe in the next world
| | | Re: thermals and other cold weather gear
<Reply # 12 on 11/7/2006 3:17 PM >
| | | | Posted by DeMiNe0
Yup, under armor is the way to go. Some people say wetsuits work well to, although i think the under armor would work better in terms of coldness.
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do they make different kinds of under armor? i know its expensive but well worth it if it keeps you guys toasty
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lexiphoto
location:
Denver, Colorado
Gender: Female
UE Den Mother
| |  | | | Re: thermals and other cold weather gear
<Reply # 13 on 11/7/2006 3:20 PM >
| | | | I live in ski country.
1. silk johns.
-they're thin, but silk is warm
2. Hi-tech fleece
-like polartech
3. Wind breaker
-if you cut the wind you won't be as cold
4. Bring warm liquids in a thermos (or take sips from some whiskey, don't over do it)
I always double up on socks.
Always have a fleece hat.
I carry those self-warming hand warmers that are like $1 a pack.
And always have a scarf as you can wrap them around anything, mostly for the face and ears.
Nothing Satisfies Like Beef! |
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Pravus
location:
Chicago Area
Gender: Male
Now the two key words for tonight - "caution" and "flammable"...
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<Reply # 14 on 11/7/2006 6:19 PM >
| | | | Posted by marissa_obscura
do they make different kinds of under armor?
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http://www.underarmour.com/
They make heat gear as well.. I have no clue about how well that works as I have never used it nor do I know anyone who has..
Live to Serve, Serve to Live.. |
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Free Baller
location:
New Jerssey
Gender: Male
I have a friend in Jesus. Seriously, Jesus ate my friend. It was horrible.
| | Re: thermals and other cold weather gear
<Reply # 15 on 11/8/2006 2:24 AM >
| | | | Under armour is expensive as hell, I suggest you stop being a little pansy. Just kidding.
Any way under armour is retarded it costs so damn much What you might want is to layer up and by a pocket heater its metal ( with a wood outside I think ) anyway you put a pice of charcoal in their throw it in your pocket and your good to go.
Trying to win hearts and minds, but willing to splatter them if neccesary.
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Mark
Very Noble Donor
location:
South Carolina
Gender: Male
What is a lion, king of the savannah, when hes at the south pole?
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<Reply # 16 on 11/8/2006 3:53 PM >
| | | | I should have said that most Wal-mart K-mart stores carry a fake underarmor brand. Your looking at 6-8 dollars. You wear this inside out(because only one company has made the seams properly 5.11) and make sure you get a tight one. The principle is much like a wet suit. When you have the tight layer it helps trap a small pocket of heat to your skin.
Also wetsuits are terrible for cold weather(believe me I have explored with them due to some wet locations) due to the inability to move freely. If you do decide to go that direction you can get a 1 millimeter suit, with another torso/shorts combo. The 1mm layer is super flexible and most divers in florida use these in the summer because they are so comfortable and flexible but retain some protection/heat value. Although these run about 80-120 and aren't any better then long johns
"If the threat level goes up its probably because of me." "I am looking for a girl who enjoys headbutting beltbuckles" |
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micro
Gender: Male
Slowly I turned
| | Re: thermals and other cold weather gear
<Reply # 17 on 11/8/2006 3:59 PM >
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femaledragonx
location:
Detroit & Everywhere Else I can dream up to go to
The singularity is near
| | Re: thermals and other cold weather gear
<Reply # 18 on 11/9/2006 5:36 PM >
| | | | Posted by Mark
I should have said that most Wal-mart K-mart stores carry a fake underarmor brand. Your looking at 6-8 dollars. You wear this inside out(because only one company has made the seams properly 5.11) and make sure you get a tight one. The principle is much like a wet suit. When you have the tight layer it helps trap a small pocket of heat to your skin.
Also wetsuits are terrible for cold weather(believe me I have explored with them due to some wet locations) due to the inability to move freely. If you do decide to go that direction you can get a 1 millimeter suit, with another torso/shorts combo. The 1mm layer is super flexible and most divers in florida use these in the summer because they are so comfortable and flexible but retain some protection/heat value. Although these run about 80-120 and aren't any better then long johns
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i have this sportmansguide magazine i nicked from my dad. inside there are those underarmour thing, but they are "man shaped." do they come in female shapes. otherwise, i will feel a bit odd with the extra room in the crotch, but maybe it will make a nice place to stash my extra flash cards....
i have heard mixed reviews about the underarmours. i ordered some silk thermals and will give them a shot in two weeks.
i doubt i will be getting a wetsuit. but i did see the walmart fake underarmours. they were more like 30-something for a top though....?
"Collective fear stimulates herd instinct, and tends to produce ferocity toward those who are not regarded as members of the herd." -Bertrand Russell
"How we spend our days is, of course, how we spend our lives." ~Annie Dillard |
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Free Baller
location:
New Jerssey
Gender: Male
I have a friend in Jesus. Seriously, Jesus ate my friend. It was horrible.
| | Re: thermals and other cold weather gear
<Reply # 19 on 11/9/2006 6:40 PM >
| | | | They actually do make female underarmour I belive I saw it in a ranger joes catalog.
Trying to win hearts and minds, but willing to splatter them if neccesary.
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