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<Reply # 20 on 9/24/2006 8:12 AM >
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Your right; to effective jam a receiver you need to have a transmitter that is preferably putting out a LOT more watts (not milliwatts!) then it's mated transmitter. You are right if it puts out more than is permitted for that class of transmitters it would be illegal. This "technic" is a half baked idea.
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Not necessarly. Without increasing power, you can use a directional antenna to concentrate the signal on the video receiver and cause interference at the minimum.
Also, Consumer Electronics can be "overpowered". In most cases, there's a voltage tolerence of something 2% to 5%.
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<Reply # 21 on 9/24/2006 8:21 AM >
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If they accept 9-24v, then the RF transmitter must be made to be FCC compliant under all operating conditions. If you can "jam" other legal devices by running it at higher voltage, then its not in compliance.
The device is either illegal or you're talking out of your ass
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Deut, actually, its a catch 22. The FCC Part 15 rules say that the device must not cause any interference, but must accept any interference.
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<Reply # 22 on 9/24/2006 8:41 AM >
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Not necessarly. Without increasing power, you can use a directional antenna to concentrate the signal on the video receiver and cause interference at the minimum.
Also, Consumer Electronics can be "overpowered". In most cases, there's a voltage tolerence of something 2% to 5%.
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There's no way to tell if it's doing so, and to whar extent. Worse if the site is large the mere present of another duplicate signal will suggest foul play. It can also allow one to vector it's source for when the owner retrieves it. A second hardwire camera is all that's needed even if it does work. Just not worth all the trouble it will cause; you get tagged eventually as the odds are against you.
One thing that bothers me is homeowners are more likely to use these; busting into people's houses isn't exceptable exploring.
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<Reply # 23 on 9/29/2006 2:06 AM >
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The device is either illegal or you're talking out of your ass
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I have a completely modular, customized, WORKING Jamming system, that cuts out all FOUR cameras, I just tried it AGAIN (after reading all the speculative replies on this board I thought I would try it again) and what do you know.
I have no idea what some of you are talking about by "tracing" the Jamming Camera or whatever.. this whole "serial number"/traceability" crap is a bunch of jumbo, the cameras are not unique in ANY way... they work on 4 different frequencies and THAT"S IT.
There is no way to view the video on the target reciever, and expect that you are going to get ANY valuable information about who the infiltrators were.
Anyone who thinks otherwise, better, buy a system, prove it to me on a workbench, or on a site, and then POST AFTER YOUR FINDINGS ARE SECURE.
Instead of as it was so gingerly put "talking out of your ass"
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<Reply # 24 on 9/29/2006 2:41 AM >
| | | | Posted by NightOpsTech
I have a completely modular, customized, WORKING Jamming system, that cuts out all FOUR cameras, I just tried it AGAIN (after reading all the speculative replies on this board I thought I would try it again) and what do you know.
I have no idea what some of you are talking about by "tracing" the Jamming Camera or whatever.. this whole "serial number"/traceability" crap is a bunch of jumbo, the cameras are not unique in ANY way... they work on 4 different frequencies and THAT"S IT.
There is no way to view the video on the target reciever, and expect that you are going to get ANY valuable information about who the infiltrators were.
Anyone who thinks otherwise, better, buy a system, prove it to me on a workbench, or on a site, and then POST AFTER YOUR FINDINGS ARE SECURE.
Instead of as it was so gingerly put "talking out of your ass"
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Your the one blowing bubbles out your ass. There's no way to know if in a given location that your "jammer" is working without seeing the monitor that your suppose to be jamming. If an object emits RF energy it can be triangulated and tracked. Futhermore every microprocessor clock oscillator has it's own unique "fingerprint"; don't be so sure your anonymous. If it's actively monitored, total signal corruption prolly will be considered a breech.
The best trick you can do is watch their camera's image on your monitor, if their dumb enough to be using wireless.
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<Reply # 25 on 9/29/2006 2:42 AM >
| | | | Posted by NightOpsTech
I have a completely modular, customized, WORKING Jamming system, that cuts out all FOUR cameras, I just tried it AGAIN (after reading all the speculative replies on this board I thought I would try it again) and what do you know.
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customized and complies with FCC regulations? I said your device is either illegal or you're just talking.
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<Reply # 26 on 9/30/2006 5:06 AM >
| | | | Posted by Deuterium
customized and complies with FCC regulations? I said your device is either illegal or you're just talking.
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Read Part 15 of the FCC rules, Deut 
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<Reply # 27 on 9/30/2006 5:22 AM >
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Read Part 15 of the FCC rules, Deut
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If I understand that correctly it refers to incidental FR emissions from consumer devices, or custom built devices such as a computer or a pic project to blink lights. Europe's real big on that shit. That isn't referring to RF transmitters or modified transmitters so it doesn't apply to a rogue transmitting device.
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<Reply # 28 on 9/30/2006 7:03 AM >
| | | | Posted by blackhawk
If I understand that correctly it refers to incidental FR emissions from consumer devices, or custom built devices such as a computer or a pic project to blink lights. Europe's real big on that shit. That isn't referring to RF transmitters or modified transmitters so it doesn't apply to a rogue transmitting device.
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The 2.4 GHz video transmitters that NightOpsTech has are Part 15 certified.
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<Reply # 29 on 9/30/2006 7:26 AM >
| | | | Posted by Agent Skelly
The 2.4 GHz video transmitters that NightOpsTech has are Part 15 certified.
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I was thinking of section 5. As long as it doesn't interfere with any licensed devices I guess he's free to hop up the gain as far as he can afford to.
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<Reply # 30 on 10/10/2006 6:31 AM >
| | | | If this is as easy as it sounds, I bet it would be equally as easy too bring a laptop computer with you and with proper equipment and software to capture the security cameras image. Rather then broadcast black taped out video feed regenerate the looped image. I will look into this.
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<Reply # 31 on 10/10/2006 7:10 AM >
| | | | Posted by paulxqx
If this is as easy as it sounds, I bet it would be equally as easy too bring a laptop computer with you and with proper equipment and software to capture the security cameras image. Rather then broadcast black taped out video feed regenerate the looped image. I will look into this.
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Welcome to UER.  Interesting first posting in an otherwise dead thread. If your master plan succeeds the stage will be set to view/break into Mom's nursery. Bravo.
Real security cams tend to be hard wired for just this reason.
The idea of live decoy 2.4 GHZ transmitter to dazzle the "over achiever's" into a false sense of security is an interesting thought. Prolly worth the $200 in a system that is already in the thousands.
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