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<Reply # 40 on 8/7/2006 12:31 AM >
|  | | | WHile at Wally world today, I just realized that it looks like Mag is slowly phasing out the incand lights. They are now selling the 2 and 3d lights as OEM LED. Plan on spending a bunch more cash. The 2d LED costs about 30 bones.
The Nite Eyez conversion may be a better option, but for some reason I haven't purchases it yet (8 bucks, but it's one of those "it works fine" sort of arguments")
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<Reply # 41 on 8/7/2006 11:39 AM >
| | | | Posted by c1rc4
I personally carry a 3D maglite, but more so if someone gets too close I can beat them with it, since I don't have many other forms of protection being a female. There are better, more powerful lights out there, yes, but it just depends on what you really want. I don't like extremely powerful lights as it can give away location, which is why I rarely use lights unless I have to.
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the main up point in having a light thats insanely bright is if you run across anyone it's assumed it's dark if you need a flashlight, but you blind the hell outa them and somewhat disorient them, not to mention knock whatever natural night vision they had out.. It won't do alot in the long run, but it'll give you time to haul ass, kick'em in the nuts, pretty much give you a few free seconds of action..
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c1rc4
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<Reply # 42 on 8/7/2006 5:06 PM >
| | | | Posted by Pravus
the main up point in having a light thats insanely bright is if you run across anyone it's assumed it's dark if you need a flashlight, but you blind the hell outa them and somewhat disorient them, not to mention knock whatever natural night vision they had out.. It won't do alot in the long run, but it'll give you time to haul ass, kick'em in the nuts, pretty much give you a few free seconds of action..
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Yea well the only people I ever run into with where I go is security. I've never run into anyone else while exploring so that hasn't been an issue. I'd rather be able to knock someone with my mag-lite then attempt to blind them because some people can see past the light. If I'm out exploring in pitch black and someone shines a bright light in my eyes, they can quickly adjust to it, while not all people are like this, I'd hate to run into someone else that was.
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<Reply # 43 on 8/8/2006 7:22 PM >
| | | | Posted by c1rc4
I'd rather be able to knock someone with my mag-lite then attempt to blind them because some people can see past the light. If I'm out exploring in pitch black and someone shines a bright light in my eyes, they can quickly adjust to it, while not all people are like this, I'd hate to run into someone else that was.
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I completely disagree with this mindset. A female with a poor mindset and a maglite is just as useless as a person with a gun, who thinks showing it will protect them.
No Cop is going to fault a female who is being polite, if they have pepper spray, and no court is going to convict a female with weapons charges.
Flashing someone in the face with a bright light in a dark situation will give you far more advantages then trying to swing in the dark with a maglite. The eye goes through alot of changes and will give you alot of advantage if you have some basic knowledge.
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<Reply # 44 on 8/8/2006 7:28 PM >
| | | | i have a 2D mag. not too big, not too small.
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Pravus
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<Reply # 45 on 8/9/2006 12:22 AM >
| | | | Posted by Mark
I completely disagree with this mindset. A female with a poor mindset and a maglite is just as useless as a person with a gun, who thinks showing it will protect them.
No Cop is going to fault a female who is being polite, if they have pepper spray, and no court is going to convict a female with weapons charges.
Flashing someone in the face with a bright light in a dark situation will give you far more advantages then trying to swing in the dark with a maglite. The eye goes through alot of changes and will give you alot of advantage if you have some basic knowledge.
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gotta say I completely agree here.. take as many advantages as you can in an assault.. Figure they will do whatever they can, you may as well do whatever it takes to make sure you are the one who walks away..
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<Reply # 46 on 8/9/2006 1:09 AM >
| | | | Posted by Pravus
gotta say I completely agree here.. take as many advantages as you can in an assault.. Figure they will do whatever they can, you may as well do whatever it takes to make sure you are the one who walks away..
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Yeap, I agree as well. Carry a bulky flashlight rather than 2 or 3 smaller, better, lighter more specialized lights makes little sense. As a weapon it's effectiveness is limited, and that's not it's purpose.
One swing is all you might get, and that is not enough. Even with a .45 at less than 10 feet away it would be tricky to stop someone coming directly at you. Assuming it was in your hand, and fire ready.
Always try escape first, distance is your ally. Being alert, street smart and more than anything not placing yourself in harms way beats any weapon, any day.
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c1rc4
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<Reply # 47 on 8/9/2006 1:42 AM >
| | | | Posted by Mark
I completely disagree with this mindset. A female with a poor mindset and a maglite is just as useless as a person with a gun, who thinks showing it will protect them.
No Cop is going to fault a female who is being polite, if they have pepper spray, and no court is going to convict a female with weapons charges.
Flashing someone in the face with a bright light in a dark situation will give you far more advantages then trying to swing in the dark with a maglite. The eye goes through alot of changes and will give you alot of advantage if you have some basic knowledge.
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As I've never had problems, I've stuck with it. I've ran into several people besides myself that can adjust eyesight fast, as I work as a theatre lighting tech I got adjusted to quick changes and learned to react faster and faster, now with little lag time as enough times of looking at a spotlight within a few feet away and someone turning it on...kinda hurts but it helps fix the blinding.
If I had bad encounters, I might try it, even though I'm by the DC area I still don't seem to have issues with unwanted visitors. And for being a female, I could easily knock the hell out of someone, with or without a maglite, so I really don't worry yet. Maybe one day I will, but until then I'm content with what I've got.
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<Reply # 48 on 8/9/2006 2:14 AM >
| | | | Posted by blackhawk
Yeap, I agree as well. Carry a bulky flashlight rather than 2 or 3 smaller, better, lighter more specialized lights makes little sense. As a weapon it's effectiveness is limited, and that's not it's purpose.
One swing is all you might get, and that is not enough. Even with a .45 at less than 10 feet away it would be tricky to stop someone coming directly at you. Assuming it was in your hand, and fire ready.
Always try escape first, distance is your ally. Being alert, street smart and more than anything not placing yourself in harms way beats any weapon, any day.
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Totally off topic, but that avatar looks just like The Hitmans daughter's husband Ed; Holy shit.
On topic; flashlights, blah blah, they are bright and shit.
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c1rc4
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<Reply # 49 on 8/9/2006 3:44 AM >
| | | | Posted by 'Dukes
On topic; flashlights, blah blah, they are bright and shit.
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Yea..agreed. Just get whatever you feel like carrying, for whatever your purpose, it's up to you. Each person might prefer something else, but in the end go somewhere and test them, then decide.
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<Reply # 50 on 8/9/2006 11:55 AM >
|  | | | In all the years I've explored and the countless locations I've been into, I can't think of a single time I've needed more light than a 2AA maglite gives off. I now carry a 6P, but only for the size.
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<Reply # 51 on 8/9/2006 12:01 PM >
| | | | Forgot to add... The idea isn't to light up the whole place, just enough to see what's immediatly around you. If you are going to use your maglite as a weapon, put a layer of duct tape on the batteries... they'll not rattle, therefore hurt a LOT more.
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<Reply # 52 on 8/9/2006 2:54 PM >
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<Reply # 53 on 8/9/2006 3:07 PM >
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Damn, now that's a flashlight! Not light weight, but insanely bright, and xenon; it has the perfect color temp. Sweet. Plus you could prolly use the RF triggered high amperage PS to incapacitate would be assailants.
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<Reply # 54 on 8/9/2006 8:03 PM >
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Deuterium
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<Reply # 55 on 8/10/2006 11:33 PM >
| | | | Posted by Yuichi Kanai
cpf motto: buy them all.
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I have more important thing to spend my money on than flashlights
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<Reply # 56 on 9/22/2006 2:18 AM >
| | | | Posted by Mark
Got that info off CandlePower.com doing some searches. Lumans are mesured from the "heat" or light intensity. Candle power is volume of light. Where they mesure Lumans can varry its strenght. I can tell you though the maglite doesn't have crap compared to G2's the base line surfire.
Two companies I really cant stand maglite, and surefire.
By the way fenix is giving a 5% discount for a damn good light, and not all the models are 50$, plus its cheap batteries unlike alot of the better lights.
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Get a Streamlight ProPolymer 4AA Luxeon instead. $31 shipped in the US. This is UL listed for use in hazardous locations where flammable dust, fibers or gases maybe present, such as welding gases, gasoline, grain dust and these maybe present at some UE locations.
http://www.fox-intl.com/item.asp?id=338
Product ID 102-68*44
If you must have something in Minimag size, get the Streamlight Jr. Luxeon 2AA
http://www.fox-intl.com/item.asp?id=531 $35 shipped.
They both run on cheap AA batteries.
My friend has a Fenix L2P, 2AA, which is around $45 shipped and it is not as powerful as my Streamlight and of course, it is not listed for use in hazardous conditions.
Streamlight is a well established American company and comes with a lifetime warranty. If it stops working or you break it, you send it back to Streamlight, located in Pennsylvania and they will replace it.
Fenix is lifetime warrantied as well by Fenix, a Chinese corporation, but I don't believe it covers damage if YOU break it, unlike Streamlight. Warranty is up to the dealer and if they won't honor it locally, you have to send it back to China yourself.
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<Reply # 57 on 9/28/2006 7:11 AM >
| | | | If you have a light with a disorienting strobe function or something incredibly bright, then you might get a few seconds upper hand on an attacker. Exploiting this, however, will require training. If you just point a regular light in a determined attacker's eyes, all you'll do is piss him off more.
If self defense with a flashlight is on your agenda, get a Gladius (disorienting strobe), 10X (extremely bright--impossible to look towards even in daylight) T2 (kubaton), E2D (slashing weapon) or 6D Maglite (nightstick) and get training on how to use your choice to its maximum effect. \Whatever your choice of tool, training is essential. Without it all you've got is a gadget and a false sense of security.
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T-mac
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<Reply # 58 on 9/28/2006 3:06 PM >
| | | | I use a head lamp (leds). It nice and bright and its sweet having free hand to do whatever you want. Its good for things like say if you wanted to peek your head in a hole, wherever you look u can see
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Tyralus
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<Reply # 59 on 9/28/2006 3:31 PM >
| | | | Mags aren't bad, but they aren't good either. The bulbs are far too fragile, and the security provided isn't as much as one would think. A good self defense course would provide you with far better protection. remember, it can be used against you too, if your attacker can grab it from you.
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