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Stowmontgomery
  
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< on 6/26/2006 2:14 AM >
|  | | | So I have noticed that while exploring several buildings, we have come across instances where it seemed people had made the effort to clean up the place from such things as asbestos and strange vats of chemicals. The thing that makes me wonder is that it was never fully cleaned up. In one substation we found a corner CAUTION taped off with bags labeled "Caution asbestos" all over them, but it seems as the people had no interest in cleaning it up all the way and rather stashing the poisonous stuff right there. At another factory we came across those big nasty yellow and blue containers that look like garbage cans that you always see in Toxic Waste movies.... anyways it had a big sticker on it saying CORROSIVE CHEMICAL number:3456345342543 (not that specific number sequence) as registered with [some random government agency with a three letter acronym] The vat was cracked and a long trail of oozing green bubbly slime covered a good portion of the floor. Could this be draining into the water system and if so should I notify someone about it? and thirdly do you think they would close up the whole site completely for safety reasons if i do?
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| | Re: The dangers/laws of Nasty Chemicals...?
<Reply # 1 on 6/26/2006 3:22 AM >
| | | | Something like that should be reported to the authorities (anonymously). Sure the location may be closed up but there are other locations to be found and explored. If there are toxic chemicals leaking, think of the people who could be affected.
I would definitely report it.
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<Reply # 2 on 6/26/2006 10:55 AM >
|  | | | Posted by Stowmontgomery
Could this be draining into the water system and if so should I notify someone about it? and thirdly do you think they would close up the whole site completely for safety reasons if i do?
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Yes, yes, and it depends on the particular pollutant in question, but probably not.
I work for an environmental agency - I've done a little bit of pollution response work - and I can safely say that we don't give two shits about why someone was in a particular location, only the information they have for us. And anonymous tips are just as good as anything else. So nobody should ever worry about getting busted for trespass after reporting a pollution concern.
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Now the two key words for tonight - "caution" and "flammable"...
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<Reply # 3 on 6/26/2006 12:51 PM >
| | | | So the question would be who would you call in a situation like that? You stumble upon glowing bubbling drums leaking out into the ground.. Personally I guess the cops would be a stepping stone, but they aren't going to do anything short of call someone else.. Would that be CDC? or would that only count if biological crap was leaking? Or just go directly to HAZMAT?
I ask that as a serious question because the less jumps your info has to take the more will be done about it in less time.. But I am not sure who would the agency that covers that directly.. Although I think in the end a HAZMAT crew would be doing the actual cleaning..
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<Reply # 4 on 6/27/2006 3:27 AM >
| | | | Since you're in the U.S. I'd call the local EPA branch. (Look in the blue pages.) The EPA around here loves that kind of stuff , and takes it VERY seriously.
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<Reply # 5 on 6/27/2006 6:07 PM >
| | | | Posted by CaptOrbit
Since you're in the U.S. I'd call the local EPA branch. (Look in the blue pages.) The EPA around here loves that kind of stuff , and takes it VERY seriously.
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Don't bet on that. The EPA resources are seriously stretched. I tried reporting a PCB leak of dozens of gallons two years ago. It's still there, and everywhere it has drained to since. Welcome to the planet, don't forget to wipe your shoes off before coming in the house.
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<Reply # 6 on 6/27/2006 10:23 PM >
| | | | check the first page of your phone book. there should be an 800 number for "toxic waste and oil spills" or some such, the number for east tennessee(chattanooga) is 800-262-3300, they may be able to tell you what your local number is. otherwise, just call the main line of the police department and ask them where to report it. they may tell you to fuck off, but at least it's a shot.
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There you are, right back in the jungle again.
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<Reply # 7 on 6/28/2006 1:26 AM >
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Don't bet on that. The EPA resources are seriously stretched |
Okay, I should qualify that statement, they love that stuff here. I can’t really speak for the rest of the country.
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<Reply # 8 on 6/28/2006 1:27 AM >
| | | | Posted by CaptOrbit
Okay, I should qualify that statement, they love that stuff here. I can’t really speak for the rest of the country.
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Maybe, in PA they don't give a rat's ass from what I can tell.
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<Reply # 9 on 6/28/2006 10:03 AM >
| | | | Maybe they just dont like you?
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Stowmontgomery
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Stow Montgomery in the Pavillion, then kill him in the Pagoda
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<Reply # 10 on 6/28/2006 1:24 PM >
| | | | well from my understanding, if say youre closing down a building for such and such reasons and they need to have an asbestos crew come in and clean up they will.
but, apparently it costs big $$ to have it disposed of. This is the reason its left to sit, crack, leak, and flow into the water table. So people just leave it in some back corner or basement hoping no one will find what theyve left there .... but i will def. look into that...
i was whole heartedly unenthused to have stepped into bubbly green sludge while exploring...
"Discovery is a painful and arduous thing," said the young boy.
"What did you say?" responded the man.
"I said, 'It's my birthday, and I want you to sing.' " |
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<Reply # 11 on 6/28/2006 4:05 PM >
| | | | Posted by Stowmontgomery
well from my understanding, if say youre closing down a building for such and such reasons and they need to have an asbestos crew come in and clean up they will.
but, apparently it costs big $$ to have it disposed of. This is the reason its left to sit, crack, leak, and flow into the water table. So people just leave it in some back corner or basement hoping no one will find what theyve left there .... but i will def. look into that...
i was whole heartedly unenthused to have stepped into bubbly green sludge while exploring...
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Then simple don't go there. It's not you property. They have no obligation to tidy up for trespassers. They may however lock it up better, use alarms, maybe level it to the ground. Many times this is the first step in a major environmental clean up. Then you'll have a fenced-in field to explore.
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Stowmontgomery
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Stow Montgomery in the Pavillion, then kill him in the Pagoda
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<Reply # 12 on 6/28/2006 4:50 PM >
| | | | wouldn't you say that people's safety is more important than me going to explore a site ive been to several times already? i dont intend to call about every unmanned bag of asbestos but when i come upon a drum leaking into the ground that does have HAZARDOUS MATERIAL labeled on it.... i think that it is important to report it for the safety of the people who live right next to the factory.....
i only asked because i didnt know if anyone else had experianced finding stuff like this and what they did about it and who they contacted....
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"Discovery is a painful and arduous thing," said the young boy.
"What did you say?" responded the man.
"I said, 'It's my birthday, and I want you to sing.' " |
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<Reply # 13 on 6/28/2006 5:06 PM >
| | | | If I knew what it was I might if it was a true hazard, or if was next to my house. What your describing is pretty common. Where are the pics!?
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There you are, right back in the jungle again.
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<Reply # 14 on 6/29/2006 10:42 PM >
| | | | I say if you believe that you have found a true hazard, something really dangerous, then call. Take whatever steps YOU feel are prudent. If what ever government agency you contact decides for ever reason not to act, then at least you can have a clearer conscience.
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<Reply # 15 on 6/30/2006 6:54 AM >
| | | | Found a couple of instances of this (maybe more as it seems it's pretty common).
abatement? or a pillow fight?
This powerplant was LOADED with these barrels... I can't remember the contents, all we found was a company name.
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Stowmontgomery
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Stow Montgomery in the Pavillion, then kill him in the Pagoda
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<Reply # 16 on 6/30/2006 12:04 PM >
| | | | luckily those weren't leaking
the ones we found were yellow and blue plastic
and yes I WILL PUT UP PICTURES WHEN I GET THEM UPLOADED!!!!!!
were planning on going back up soon to:
1. get the name of the chemicals on the tag
2. get all the stuff i stupidly took out of my bag and forgot.
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"Discovery is a painful and arduous thing," said the young boy.
"What did you say?" responded the man.
"I said, 'It's my birthday, and I want you to sing.' " |
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<Reply # 17 on 6/30/2006 2:12 PM >
| | | | the epa in the fox valley i think has given up, so much toxic stuff in the river and the on the flats its scary, the last thing that was visible that they did was to put up signs on my banks of the river to warn of the chemicals... oh and if you eat the fish you can get sick and they may cause brith defects
im going through one the more toxic sites later today... yay!
~runs off to find his full-face mask and disposable coveralls~
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abandoned Central Warehouse, Albany NY
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<Reply # 18 on 6/30/2006 2:36 PM >
| | | | Posted by 'Dukes
Found a couple of instances of this (maybe more as it seems it's pretty common).
abatement? or a pillow fight?
This powerplant was LOADED with these barrels... I can't remember the contents, all we found was a company name.
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'Dukes, nice pics btw in the NY section...
Yeah just checked out a site with dozens of mystery rusty barrels packed in the basement. They had been there for awhile, and were emptied from the rust holes. It all goes down, and eventually into the water table... thirsty?
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<Reply # 19 on 6/30/2006 7:43 PM >
| | | | Posted by Pravus
So the question would be who would you call in a situation like that? |
Every state's environmental agency should have a contact person for reporting pollution, as do most cities.
For example, in Chicago you can report pollution to the Illinois EPA (not to be confused with the federal EPA, they're completely separate agencies) here: http://www.epa.sta...llution-complaint/ and to the Chicago DOE here: http://egov.cityof...ntent&context=dept
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