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YellowSnow
 
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< on 6/12/2006 9:41 PM >
|  | | | Can the cops monitor walkie talkies? Like, if we were using them close to a cop station, do you think they'd be listening in?
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nightbird
       
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<Reply # 1 on 6/12/2006 9:52 PM >
| | | | Posted by YellowSnow
Can the cops monitor walkie talkies?
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yes.
Like, if we were using them close to a cop station, do you think they'd be listening in?
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probably not.
Will someone else be listening in?
most likely yes.
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Myelin
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<Reply # 2 on 6/12/2006 9:56 PM >
| | | | Posted by YellowSnow
Can the cops monitor walkie talkies? Like, if we were using them close to a cop station, do you think they'd be listening in?
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It is more likely a bunch of scanner geeks will be getting their rocks off listening to your walkie talkie comms. The cops have better things to do. Unless they are cops who also happen to be scanner geeks.
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Gunslinger
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<Reply # 3 on 6/12/2006 10:51 PM >
| | | | This is the only way to go in terms of 2way.
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YellowSnow
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<Reply # 4 on 6/12/2006 11:31 PM >
| | | | What are those? They look expensive.
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FoxTwoFoxTwo
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<Reply # 5 on 6/13/2006 5:12 AM >
| | | | Posted by YellowSnow
What are those? They look expensive.
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Radios and convenient blunt weapons.
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Mongo
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<Reply # 6 on 6/13/2006 11:08 PM >
| | | | Ah yes, Astro Sabers. Aren't they the cat's ass? "Can you hear me now"? "Nope, I just went digital".
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Mark
 
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<Reply # 7 on 6/13/2006 11:55 PM >
| | | | Posted by YellowSnow
What are those? They look expensive.
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You can get some older generation radios and essentially do the same thing as your FRS but with greater range. THe problem is they are illegal and if a cop has any knowledge your ass can get roasted. Highly unlikely but possible.
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Stabadeus
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<Reply # 8 on 6/14/2006 1:26 AM >
| | | | I've used FRS before, just to keep track of each other around a property.
FRS is pretty limited though, not just in range.
It all kind of went down hill from there. |
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Gunslinger
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<Reply # 9 on 6/14/2006 3:23 AM >
| | | | Posted by Mongo
Ah yes, Astro Sabers. Aren't they the cat's ass? "Can you hear me now"? "Nope, I just went digital".
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Digital with encryption, it makes you quite impossible to hear and has all sorts of useful applications.
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Mongo
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<Reply # 10 on 6/14/2006 4:20 AM >
| | | | The encryption is great, but then you need the key loader and they can cost a couple of $$$. Nice to have, but a bit overkill just for UEing. Then again, so is digital.
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Mark
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<Reply # 11 on 6/14/2006 4:24 AM >
| | | | I have a keyloader, and the chips. They arent that expensive in the end. You don't need the astros and might I add digital cuts your range. Also if you pick the right frequencies no one uses you can talk without being harassed and not spend the extra few bucks.
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el nerdo
 
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<Reply # 12 on 6/14/2006 4:35 AM >
| | | | Posted by Mark
You can get some older generation radios and essentially do the same thing as your FRS but with greater range. THe problem is they are illegal and if a cop has any knowledge your ass can get roasted. Highly unlikely but possible.
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Mark, can you clarify how these are illegal?
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Factor VIII
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<Reply # 13 on 6/14/2006 5:38 AM >
| | | | I picked up 2 of these before I had my ham radio license.
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I used them on 150mhz. While it was illegal, I wasn't concerned about getting caught. 150mhz is dead where I live, and I only used them occasionally. But if you do use a radio without a license or a frequency you arent licensed to use, be aware it is illegal and be sure check up on your local area to see whats up.
As for cops listening in on walkie talkie conversations, its unlikely, but can happen. It depends on what system you are using, and how determined they are.
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Mark
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<Reply # 14 on 6/14/2006 8:16 AM >
| | | | Posted by el nerdo
Mark, can you clarify how these are illegal?
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Radios changed to FRS freqs have to be built certian ways. Some internal things aren't correct, but one of the big rules is no detachable antennas, and transmittion strengths. Although the later can be changed inside the radios programing itself. Can't use digital or encryption either.
Most people have no idea about that and wouldnt know if a FRS was beating them in the head.
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Myelin
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<Reply # 15 on 6/14/2006 12:26 PM >
| | | | Posted by Mark
Radios changed to FRS freqs have to be built certian ways. Some internal things |
Yes, they need to be "type accepted" - as manufactured. This extends to C.B. and almost every radio service in some way - and I might add radio gear that is operated by basic class licence holders (in Canada) also needs to be type accepted for the amateur service... a finer point in the rules & regs that usually is not observed, even by the tight-asses who won't even kerchunck a repeater without dutifully throwing out their callsign.
However, I don't know of a single case where the feds have investigated/prosecuted anyone for such a violation, ie. basic licence holder operating modified commercial gear. My first rig was a modified ex-OPP "Mastrpro", and that was pimped out for me by an advanced class ham who didn't seem to mind.
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vividserenity
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| | | Re: Walkie talkies, radios, whatever you wanna call them.
<Reply # 16 on 6/14/2006 4:18 PM >
| | | | a friend of mine brings a walkie with him on explorations however, not to communicate with his buddies exploring with him, rather to PICK UP frequencies from cops (just for a little heads up if cops might possibly be in the area, to better help prevent getting caught)
when i go exploring, i prefer to have whoever i go with all stick together with me in one group, no wandering off or seperating in all scattered locations/rooms. one trip i made (my second time at Broad Acres in Utica NY) i realized that it wasn't as good of an idea having everyone scattered around in this big building. i went with merulla and 3 of my other friends and when we were seperated at times, they had to assume that noises of us walking around or opening/closing doors in the floors above or below them was us... but how can one be certain it's not some stranger-intruder? my point is i think it's a better idea to just have your fellow explorers stick together in a group, rather than communicate over walkie talkies A.) to prevent seperated confusion/assumption B.) to prevent the cops or anyone else picking up YOUR frequencies C.) prevent excessive noise (suppose you have to suddenly & unexpectedly shut up and listen for a moment and your buddie doesn't know, then sends you a message over your walkie?)
does this make sense?
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Myelin
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| | Re: Walkie talkies, radios, whatever you wanna call them.
<Reply # 17 on 6/14/2006 9:26 PM >
| | | | Vivid...I agree. Stay together. If you need to split up, FRS would be OK I suppose if you have earbud style mics and kept chatter down to a bare minimum, and not be specific about where you are. If you are somewhere where you need to talk alot and concerned about privacy, I'd be looking at those Telus Mobility "Mike" phones. They are about the same price as regular cell phones, but also provide digital private communications. By "private" I mean some hack with a scanner can't listen to you. I'm sure the CIA and FBI have ways to track/monitor these devices but unless you just hopped over the Whitehouse Gate, I don't think anyone will bother to even try.
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el nerdo
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| | | Re: Walkie talkies, radios, whatever you wanna call them.
<Reply # 18 on 6/15/2006 5:35 PM >
| | | | Posted by Mark
Radios changed to FRS freqs have to be built certian ways. Some internal things aren't correct, but one of the big rules is no detachable antennas, and transmittion strengths. Although the later can be changed inside the radios programing itself. Can't use digital or encryption either.
Most people have no idea about that and wouldnt know if a FRS was beating them in the head.
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Okay, I didn't quite understand what you meant... but now I understand what you were referring to.
And Myelin, you're not quite right about type acceptance, as you can't type accept a radio that's been modded for FRS TX...
The FCC regs state that any radio used for FRS purposes meet the following requirements (among others):
The radio must not have a detatchable antenna;
The radio must not be modified in any way;
The radio can not be attached to an amplifier.
That being said, the Police can't do shit if they catch you TXing on FRS 1 with 5W (or even 100W) of power.
Enforcement of the FCC Regulations (note, they're not Laws, they're Regs) is only to be done by FCC enforcement personnel. It's not a Police matter.
All the FCC can do, btw, is confiscate your gear and/or issue a Notice of Apparent Liability (aka a fine).
Also, ham radio equipment certainly does NOT require FCC type acceptance.
Otherwise, no one would be able to homebrew their own rigs.
As long as the rig is only capable of operating inside the amateur radio bands, type acceptance is not required.
This is why we can use surplus commercial gear on the ham bands.... gear that's only been type accepted for commercial freqs.
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Gazoo
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| | | Re: Walkie talkies, radios, whatever you wanna call them.
<Reply # 19 on 6/15/2006 5:57 PM >
| | | | The cops can monitor any frequency, but there's millions of frequencies. Even digital cell phones can be monitored, I have a scanner that I used to use to listen to cops/cell phones/military channels and even drive through order stations. If it produces a signal it can be listened too, but it's the same as security camera's (someone has to be watching/listening).
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