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<Reply # 20 on 6/6/2006 6:10 AM >
|  | | | Ive got a nice second hand D50 Lined up with my dads mate for $550, and he might even throw in a lens for $50 because he got a newer one last week!
So i might buy a good lens for $200 on top of that...
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jugglervr
 
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<Reply # 21 on 6/6/2006 7:13 AM >
| | | | I would *really* recommend a high-end point-shoot for your purposes. you can get 8 mpxl p/s cameras with aperture-priority and shutter-priority and a tripod mount (if you don't know what all three of the things I just mentioned are, you should definitely NOT get a dslr until you've cut your teeth on a good p/s.
Also, if you don't know what makes DSLRs worth thousands of dollars, they're probably not the camera for you. I don't mean to sound condescending, but if you're someone without a good intermediate grasp of photography techniques and the some of the physics/reasoning behind the equipment, then SLRs aren't the best option for you. Again, i really am not meaning to be offensive. I *just* got my first DSLR after 4 years of p/s (paid) photography.
Also, there are dozens of forums dedicated to SLR lens discussion. i'm not telling you to go somewhere else, I'm just mentioning that it is well beyond the scope of this thread to discuss the merits of different lenses. get the cheapest zoom lens you can find. If you're still going for a DSLR, that is. If you get a canon camera, sigma makes pretty good lenses, more cheaply than canon. don't get lenses designed for aps-c sensors because they're incompatible with full-frame cameras. if you want really wide-angle, get a lens that goes as low as 20 mm or even 17 or 14. i shoot wide with a fixed 28mm and even it seems too wide for me sometimes.
Here's a rule to use when pricing lenses: Good. Cheap. Large Zoom Range. Wide Aperture. Pick two of those and there will be a lens that matches it.
When you find the lens you want, google its name and the word Review and read every single thing that's ever been written about it.
And I'd really suggest a p/s. I had a p/s with a 24-135mm lens. you'll never find a GOOD DLSR lens with that range.
Edit: proofreading is good.
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Aye.Eye
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<Reply # 22 on 6/6/2006 10:40 AM >
| | | | Yeah im considering a point and shoot but I like the quality of the DSLR cameras also i like somthing bulker than a little P&S...
I know what they are... im not that docile!!! =P
anyway ill see what happens... how can buying a DSLR hurt more than buying a P&S for the same price?
PsYcHo
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Myelin
 
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<Reply # 23 on 6/6/2006 12:37 PM >
| | | | I don't think you want advice on what camera to buy, you just want confirmation that a D50 is the right choice, bar all other suggestions.
Well, I own a D50 and I'll tell you this; the 18-55mm kit lens is terrible. I would venture to say that you will get better results from a high end P&S as someone else suggested as well, than you will with the D50 kit zoom. I had to ditch the kit zoom and upgrade to two other lenses just to get satisfactory results.
So, while a DSLR will be better in the long haul in terms of keeping your doors open for better optics, et al., you need to ask yourself "Can I afford $2,000" in lens upgrades over the next year or two. If a money pit is not something you want to step into, well...juggler pretty well said it best!
Bottom line: You do need to get one thing clear... a DSLR is not automatically "higher quality" than a P&S. It may be better than a $180 Kodak Easyshare but there are some damn good fixed lens digitals out there. I go shooting with a friend who has a Canon P&S and he often puts me to shame, partly owing to better knowledge of digital photography but also b/c his camera is pretty good too!!!
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<Reply # 24 on 6/6/2006 3:55 PM >
| | | | There's also additional maintenance with the DSRL cameras if you change lens; cleaning the sensor. That lens I told you about, the 17-85 is a good traveling lens. You may be able to find that and a 20D used at a good price. The Rebel isn't bad either. If you stick with that one lens for a bit you won't have problems, and get a much better rig than any P&S. There is more you can do with a DSRL, and I know my 20D is easier to shoot with in all modes than my Sony f828 P&S. So even the argument that a P&S is easier to shoot with is not valid many times. Play with both a lot before you buy.
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Myelin
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<Reply # 25 on 6/6/2006 4:08 PM >
| | | | I got burned by the dusty-sensor thing after a few months of ownership. The camera store I got it from cleaned it up, no charge. But up until that point I didn't realize how vulnerable the sensor is during lens changes. Being film oriented, I am used to having a fresh surface to shoot on every time.
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<Reply # 26 on 6/6/2006 4:18 PM >
| | | | Posted by Myelin
I got burned by the dusty-sensor thing after a few months of ownership. The camera store I got it from cleaned it up, no charge. But up until that point I didn't realize how vulnerable the sensor is during lens changes. Being film oriented, I am used to having a fresh surface to shoot on every time.
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Yeah it's a bitch ain't it? With Canon their pretty good as they will clean it unlimited times for the first year. About a week turn around. Still's a pain.
It helps to keep the sensor dust free as dust will attract moisture which in turn will leave a residue that can't be blown off. 
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<Reply # 27 on 6/7/2006 11:15 PM >
| | | | If you can, go to your local camera store, and try out a few film/digital Slr's. See what fits your needs and wants. People can give you all the advise in the world, but it doesn't help if the camera doesn't suit your needs.
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