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Infiltration Forums > Archived UE Tutorials, Lessons, and Useful Info > Watertowers - Security question. (Viewed 1249 times)
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Watertowers - Security question.
< on 6/2/2006 3:06 PM >
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I have a quick question. A location that I'm planning to visit this weekend is right next to the local water-tower. I may be overcome with passion and just have to climb the fence and the watertower. So the question is twofold:

What sort of penalties can they screw me with other than tresspassing?
What sort of security do they have? (Motion detectors? Fence vibration detectors?)

As for the abandoned farm - I'm not really worried about there being any leet security there.

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Re: Watertowers - Security question.
<Reply # 1 on 6/2/2006 3:17 PM >
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Depends on your water tower. I did the same when visiting an abandonment here by ours. The only thing it had was barbwire at the top. The tower is also in the middle of the woods though and no one really goes back there, so that is always a plus if yours is as well. For motion detectors, I've never seen a water tower with one, but depending on the area there might be one. If you aren't off a main road, climbing it and not getting caught is simple as long as nobody for maintenance comes.

Trespassing is pretty much the only thing they will get you with, unless something is damaged around/on the tower then they will come after you for that.
..or if you local bum wants to say you pushed him off the tower, then that can get you in trouble too..(yes, this did happen here..).

Goodluck and just scope out the area, and see if you can find and motion detectors and other kinds of security.

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Re: Watertowers - Security question.
<Reply # 2 on 6/2/2006 3:44 PM >
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Wonderful response. Thanks. I was expecting a safety nazi (<sarcasm>not that we have them here</sarcasm>).

I am taking binoculars, so I'll probably just scope it out and rattle the fence (and then disappear into the nearby woods to watch).

The road thing has me worried though, as it's right on the main road. Luckily it is at the back of the property, so as long as climb the opposite side from the road, I should be fine.

Edit: grammar and removed the phrase "as long as I go up the backside", because you all have dirty minds.
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Re: Watertowers - Security question.
<Reply # 3 on 6/2/2006 4:06 PM >
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Yea stay to the back, or go find a water tower in the middle of the woods to climb. If it's a night, make sure the tower isn't lit up like a christmas tree, because that can be a dead giveaway when your reflection is shined somewhere.

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<Reply # 4 on 6/2/2006 8:20 PM >
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Get some pictures too, I like water towers!

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Re: Watertowers - Security question.
<Reply # 5 on 6/2/2006 10:51 PM >
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Post 9/11 messing around a towns water supply might not be the greatest idea. Just my .02.

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Re: Watertowers - Security question.
<Reply # 6 on 6/3/2006 4:25 AM >
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Well you could get to meet some FBI agents from Homeland Security. If the cops caught you there even if they don't arrest you then may pass the info along. If tagged by smart cameras, they might just show up at your door. Avoid active potable water storage tanks, and oil tanks. Dah.

A greater danger is if are not familiar with climbing structural steel. There's more to it than just going up the ladder. Whatever you do don't be a pussy, and get stuck up there. If worse comes to worst be dignified and plunge to your death.

Since you probably won't listen, and will climb it away. DO NOT venture past to ladder on dome top tanks without a safety tether! Don't goof around on the ladder, or on the tank. Don't go into the tank!!!

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Re: Watertowers - Security question.
<Reply # 7 on 6/3/2006 5:38 AM >
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I don't post water towers on here. Mainly due to the fact that most cell companies have a vested interest in protecting there equipment.

However I must admit water towers are terrifyingly easy, and usually have 0 electronic surveillance. Even now after 9/11 I have been in half a dozen in the last 2 years.

Security any where can be bypassed, as a few people that know me will tell you. Just be careful be smart, and look around. If you think there is some sort of security put on some gloves, and then throw on a balaclava at the door. The gloves are nice anyways as most of the ladders are usually rusty and fucked up. Needless to say if there is a camera they wont get your face. Maybe even just a hat pulled low would work, or bouni hat would be the best choice. Little military but it will keep your face out in the remote chance there is anything watching.

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Re: Watertowers - Security question.
<Reply # 8 on 6/3/2006 6:16 AM >
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Posted by Mark
I don't post water towers on here. Mainly due to the fact that most cell companies have a vested interest in protecting there equipment.

However I must admit water towers are terrifyingly easy, and usually have 0 electronic surveillance. Even now after 9/11 I have been in half a dozen in the last 2 years.

Security any where can be bypassed, as a few people that know me will tell you. Just be careful be smart, and look around. If you think there is some sort of security put on some gloves, and then throw on a balaclava at the door. The gloves are nice anyways as most of the ladders are usually rusty and fucked up. Needless to say if there is a camera they wont get your face. Maybe even just a hat pulled low would work, or bouni hat would be the best choice. Little military but it will keep your face out in the remote chance there is anything watching.



If your doing this in a city, or near power/pipeline infrastructures all bets are off. If a smart camera tags you expect either real time response, or a visit later. They can glean your tag number, and more.

Tanks are usually well maintained, with little or no rust. It's safer not to use gloves. It's not a place for stealth, but for awareness where your hands, and feet are. This is not a playground; slips can be lethal, after about 60 feet up you don't have to worry about getting injured.

Do you know the proper way to climb an uncaged ladder?


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Re: Watertowers - Security question.
<Reply # 9 on 6/3/2006 6:58 AM >
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Posted by blackhawkDo you know the proper way to climb an uncaged ladder?




With your hands on the side?


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Re: Watertowers - Security question.
<Reply # 10 on 6/3/2006 9:26 AM >
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Posted by blackhawk



If your doing this in a city, or near power/pipeline infrastructures all bets are off. If a smart camera tags you expect either real time response, or a visit later. They can glean your tag number, and more.

Tanks are usually well maintained, with little or no rust. It's safer not to use gloves. It's not a place for stealth, but for awareness where your hands, and feet are. This is not a playground; slips can be lethal, after about 60 feet up you don't have to worry about getting injured.

Do you know the proper way to climb an uncaged ladder?



Camera's can only catch what they can see. Many people park near these places, but not all of us are as lazy. I have been to some fairly high risk places that I have needed to walk several miles through woods to infiltrate. Although I preach Risk assessment on here, I have seen a disturbingly big hole in security when it comes to our fresh water systems, and water towers seem to be some of the most vulnerable.

I have been climbing up and down ladders since my father let me climb up ladder trucks as a kid at the fire department. Not to mention I am an avid climber.

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Re: Watertowers - Security question.
<Reply # 11 on 6/3/2006 9:30 AM >
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is there some trick to climbing ladders that is kept secret by big brother to oppress us?

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Re: Watertowers - Security question.
<Reply # 12 on 6/3/2006 10:08 AM >
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yes, what is this proper way to climb uncaged ladders?

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Re: Watertowers - Security question.
<Reply # 13 on 6/3/2006 1:22 PM >
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You don't know? I'm not joking. See if someone does know.

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Re: Watertowers - Security question.
<Reply # 14 on 6/3/2006 7:32 PM >
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Posted by blackhawk
You don't know? I'm not joking. See if someone does know.


Umm... One hand and one rung at a time? Pretty much like climbing stairs, never put 2 feet or hands on the same rung? Just my guess.

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Re: Watertowers - Security question.
<Reply # 15 on 6/3/2006 7:49 PM >
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Posted by TCdrainer


Umm... One hand and one rung at a time? Pretty much like climbing stairs, never put 2 feet or hands on the same rung? Just my guess.


You climb with your hands on the outside of the ladder; you don't normally use the rungs for your hands, just your feet. You have better grip, and balance. If a rung breaks(unlikely) you don't take the long walk.

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Re: Watertowers - Security question.
<Reply # 16 on 6/3/2006 11:28 PM >
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Posted by blackhawk


You climb with your hands on the outside of the ladder; you don't normally use the rungs for your hands, just your feet. You have better grip, and balance. If a rung breaks(unlikely) you don't take the long walk.


I don't see how you have better grip that way, if you were to miss-step or something it would be much easier to fall.

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Re: Watertowers - Security question.
<Reply # 17 on 6/3/2006 11:44 PM >
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I don't see how you have better grip that way, if you were to miss-step or something it would be much easier to fall.


I learned from the pros, the best in the business. You won't find this in a Google search. The reasons is are as stated. One hand is always in contact. You have your shoulders spread better, thus are closer to the ladder. It's easier to grip the outside even with small hands.

On caged ladders use the outside if you can, but the cage may make this harder. It's almost impossible to fall from a caged ladder, if you know what your doing. I've climbed 10's of thousands of feet on tank ladders both caged and open without safety harnesses. If your not comfortable, don't climb. If you screw up, results are final.

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<Reply # 18 on 6/3/2006 11:55 PM >
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I'm not doubting that that's how the pro's do it. However, I just would think that if you were to miss a rung or take a bad step with your foot, that it would be harder to hang on from the outside. That's just my opinion though,
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Re: Watertowers - Security question.
<Reply # 19 on 6/4/2006 12:15 AM >
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Posted by TCdrainer
I'm not doubting that that's how the pro's do it. However, I just would think that if you were to miss a rung or take a bad step with your foot, that it would be harder to hang on from the outside. That's just my opinion though,


Don't miss a step. Take your time, learn to develope a ready rhythm, wear a good set of work boots. Never goof around when climbing, concentrate on the business at hand. Do pull-ups, play with monkey bars, etc., strong lats, and legs helps. Even if you do slip you should be able to retain your grasp, unless you really fuck up big time. You can't fall as long as one hand is firmly hanging on to steel.

Be extra careful getting on, and off ladders, top and bottom. A ten foot fall can be fatal.

Excercise extreme caution on the dome of tanks if you go there! You can, and people have slid off to their deaths.

Never allow a rope to hang over a tank roof lip bearing a person.

Do not go inside.

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