|
Sherlock
location:
DC Area
Gender: Male
 |  |  | What is the general concensous on breaking and entering here?
< on 4/29/2006 10:38 PM >
|  | | | Does this board have any general opinion on breaking and entering when it is needed to enter a location?
How far do you go to get into a location?
Prying wooden boards away? Picking locks? Ramming doors down maybe?
I am just wondering.
|
|
tron_2.0
   
location:
Ohio
Gender: Male
| | |  | Re: What is the general concensous on breaking and entering here?
<Reply # 1 on 4/29/2006 10:41 PM >
| | | | oh god...here comes a flamewar.
[quote][i]Posted by yokes[/i]
I find your lack of coziness.... disturbing.
[/quote] |
|
'Dukes
   
Noble Donor
Gender: Male
At least someone llikes me
| | | Re: What is the general concensous on breaking and entering here?
<Reply # 2 on 4/29/2006 10:57 PM >
| | | | Oh boy, here comes a shitstorm from the west, seek shelter!
I got your tour winner right here pussies, at least he'd crash out trying. |
|
micro
Gender: Male
Slowly I turned
| | Re: What is the general concensous on breaking and entering here?
<Reply # 3 on 4/29/2006 10:59 PM >
| | | | Not on a first date.
|
|
Sherlock
location:
DC Area
Gender: Male
| | | Re: What is the general concensous on breaking and entering here?
<Reply # 4 on 4/29/2006 11:20 PM >
| | | | Haha, sorry im new, I didn't know this was such a heated subject. But I still want to know...
|
|
junkyard
location:
LaCrosse, WI
Gender: Male
Strategic Beer Command where the metal hits the meat.
| | | Re: What is the general concensous on breaking and entering here?
<Reply # 5 on 4/29/2006 11:37 PM >
| | | | You must have missed the FNG thread. If you can't read, we can't help you. Now go grab me a cold one and I'll tell you a story.......
I drink gasoline for breakfeast and beer for dinner!
Any problem can be licked with a case of beer and a few sticks of dynamite.
Strategic Beer Command ruling the desert since 1995 http://www.strategic-beer-command.com |
|
Wolfmaan
location:
Canada
Gender: Male
UrBex
| | | Re: What is the general concensous on breaking and entering here?
<Reply # 6 on 4/29/2006 11:49 PM >
| | | | In Canada Break & Enter have two different and distinct meanings which are found in section 321 & 250 of the Criminal Code.
321- "Break" Means:
(a) to break any part internal or external
(b) to open anything that is used or intended to be used to close or to cover an internal or external opening
NOTE: in the case R vs Jewell (1974) "Entry through a door open sufficiently wide enough to permit entrance to the building without further displacement of the door does *not* constitute breaking"
250 - Entrance
(a) A person enters as soon as any part of his body or any part of an instrument that he uses is within any thing that is being entered and;
(b) A person shall be deemed to have broken and entered if:
i) he obtained entrance by a threat or artifice or by collusion with a person within or
ii) he entered without lawful justification or excuse, the proof of which lies on him, by a permanent or temporary opening.
Just to give some humor here:
R vs Johnson (1977) "An open doorway for which a door has not yet been installed, or has been removed leading to a dwelling-house under construction is considered a temporary opening"
I'm not going to get involved in the debate - but there are tons of case-law decisions for this kind of thing. Just be careful out there. You decide if what you are doing is breaking the law.
Its a dual procedure offence which means it could go from 6 months in jail to 10 years in jail.
Hope it wasnt too confusing
Send lawyers, guns, and money... |
|
blackhawk
This member has been banned. See the banlist for more information.
location:
Mission Control
UER newbie
| | | Re: What is the general concensous on breaking and entering here?
<Reply # 7 on 4/30/2006 1:12 AM >
| | | | Posted by Mrpinstripesuit
Does this board have any general opinion on breaking and entering when it is needed to enter a location?
How far do you go to get into a location?
Prying wooden boards away? Picking locks? Ramming doors down maybe?
I am just wondering.
|
You been here four days, and this is what your asking? Mrpinstripsuit AKA Have flamethrower will travel? I think I've heard of you.
Just when I thought I was out... they pulled me back in.
|
|
Explorer Zero
| | | Re: What is the general concensous on breaking and entering here?
<Reply # 8 on 4/30/2006 2:00 AM >
| | | | oh shit, all we need now is Man in black and Deuterium and we can all just have our collective heads handed to us
ok heres your answer: http://www.uer.ca/..._search1.asp?fid=1
|
|
Sherlock
location:
DC Area
Gender: Male
| | | Re: What is the general concensous on breaking and entering here?
<Reply # 9 on 4/30/2006 2:07 AM >
| | | | ??? Soooory!! Nevermind! I will just read the old thread! Didn't know there was one! Oops! I didn't mean to start anything. Forget I ever posted this thread haha.
|
|
dev
Passed away September 23rd, 2006.
| | Re: What is the general concensous on breaking and entering here?
<Reply # 10 on 5/2/2006 12:02 PM >
| | | | 
procure one. use it when necessary. don't talk about it.
END OF STORY.
edit: breaking my own rule of "don't talk about it" ... i've only used a bar twice. both times were well over a year ago, both on the same location, which is now demolished. c'est la vie. i wanted in before it was rubble, so i made a choice.
[last edit 5/2/2006 12:04 PM by dev - edited 1 times]
|
|
shellyl
location:
Lenoir NC
Gender: Female
I have learned not sweat the petty things and not to pet the sweaty things.
| | Re: What is the general concensous on breaking and entering here?
<Reply # 11 on 5/2/2006 3:24 PM >
| | | | I am not a fan of BREAKING and entering. If I can back off a few screws or what not, looks the same when I leave it's A OK unless of course I get caught. Not happened yet so if it does I will deal with it then and let ya know how it all shakes out.
A mirage is not an optical illusion. It is a real phenomenon, and one can take photographs of it. The interpretation of the image, however, is up to the fantasy of the human mind.
|
|
Alestrial
location:
Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Gender: Male
<Arc_Tangent> I crown you prince of pears!
| | Re: What is the general concensous on breaking and entering here?
<Reply # 12 on 5/2/2006 3:41 PM >
| | | | *cringe*
Breaking And entering is most common but evil!!!!!!!
i have broken and exited by mistake while UE-ing but the breaking part is looked down upon alot!
[last edit 5/2/2006 3:41 PM by Alestrial - edited 1 times]
~ 2.0 : Now with upgraded spelling ~ |
|
shellyl
location:
Lenoir NC
Gender: Female
I have learned not sweat the petty things and not to pet the sweaty things.
| | Re: What is the general concensous on breaking and entering here?
<Reply # 13 on 5/2/2006 4:04 PM >
| | | | Ok I am commonly evil. I gently enter, explore to my hearts content,repair my entry to original condition and leave only footprints with my so-so photos since I suck at photography.
A mirage is not an optical illusion. It is a real phenomenon, and one can take photographs of it. The interpretation of the image, however, is up to the fantasy of the human mind.
|
|
blackhawk
This member has been banned. See the banlist for more information.
location:
Mission Control
UER newbie
| | | Re: What is the general concensous on breaking and entering here?
<Reply # 14 on 5/2/2006 4:17 PM >
| | | | Posted by shellyl
Ok I am commonly evil. I gently enter, explore to my hearts content,repair my entry to original condition and leave only footprints with my so-so photos since I suck at photography.
|
I must say that is a classy way to B&E! It nice to see that level of respect while being bad. I've consider doing the same, but decided to just forget it. There are two problems: one it takes more time, and exposure. The second problem is that it's still a felony crime. I'm not going to turn a hobby into a crime spree. Don't worry, I'm still plenty evil.
Just when I thought I was out... they pulled me back in.
|
|
res_novae
location:
NoVA
Gender: Male
| | | Re: What is the general concensous on breaking and entering here?
<Reply # 15 on 5/2/2006 4:56 PM >
| | | | *Breaks out popcorn for incoming flame war*
*Grabs fuel*
I see nothing wrong as long as it is repairable, and you repair it upon leaving, to the original condition of which it was when you entered. Law Enforcement sees something wrong, but personally I don't. It is all personal opinion, just use common sense.
|
|
yokes
location:
Toronto
Gender: Male
I aim to misbehave
| | | | Re: What is the general concensous on breaking and entering here?
<Reply # 16 on 5/2/2006 5:01 PM >
| | | | For me, my goal is to leave the site in the same condition it was when I got there. Other than that, I'd generally say it is fair game, though you accept the consequences of further actions to gain entry.
"Great architecture has only two natural enemies: water and stupid men." - Richard Nickel |
|
blackhawk
This member has been banned. See the banlist for more information.
location:
Mission Control
UER newbie
| | | Re: What is the general concensous on breaking and entering here?
<Reply # 17 on 5/2/2006 5:10 PM >
| | | | Posted by res_novae
*Breaks out popcorn for incoming flame war*
*Grabs fuel*
I see nothing wrong as long as it is repairable, and you repair it upon leaving, to the original condition of which it was when you entered. Law Enforcement sees something wrong, but personally I don't. It is all personal opinion, just use common sense.
|
Your right in the respect to doing no damage to the structure, and that is commendable. A cop would have no choice but to arrest you if caught. The problem is that B&E is a felony, if you are convicted you are screwed. It will go on your permanent record, and haunt you for the rest of your life. A felony conviction will limit what you can do, legally in life. Not good.
Just when I thought I was out... they pulled me back in.
|
|
The_Man_in_Black
location:
Near Buffalo
Gender: Male
Rodents Of Unusual Size? I don't think they exist..
| | Re: What is the general concensous on breaking and entering here?
<Reply # 18 on 5/2/2006 5:58 PM >
| | | | Posted by 2Xplorations
oh shit, all we need now is Man in black and Deuterium and we can all just have our collective heads handed to us
|
Huh.. wha? Hey, I'm just here reading. Not interested in handing anyone's head to them at all. I personally don't B&E, I would hope others wouldn't either.. but people have to make their own choices and take their own risks.
TMiB
I miss ednothing.. and Glass.. and Seicer.. and Jester.. and Chainsaw.. and THD.. and Mike D.. and Crossfire.. and Noah Vale.. and Maynard.. and pixie.. and Mr. Yuk.. and Worm Wirsbo.. and Miss_Informed... and dev.. Rest In Peace, dev. |
|
Mr. Crafty
location:
Cincinnati
Gender: Male
Do you have any questions about the belt?
| |  | | Re: What is the general concensous on breaking and entering here?
<Reply # 19 on 5/2/2006 6:12 PM >
| | | | Posted by shellyl
If I can back off a few screws or what not, looks the same when I leave it's A OK unless of course I get caught.
|
That's as far as I'll go too, but only as a last resort. I used that method the last two locations I explored. I used to carry a tiny (6") pry bar, but never used it. I came close to getting caught once and figured it wasn't a good thing to be carrying around so I ditched it at the site.
[last edit 5/2/2006 6:15 PM by Mr. Crafty - edited 1 times]
|
|
Powered by AvBoard AvBoard version 1.5 alpha
Page Generated In: 109 ms
|
|
Ethics