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Re: best flashlight
<Reply # 180 on 10/6/2006 1:15 PM >
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Streamlight Scorpion is the best flashlight ever, the end. ok 8-)... they should change the battery, they're expensive!

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Re: best flashlight
<Reply # 181 on 11/12/2006 3:40 PM >
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Re: best flashlight
<Reply # 182 on 11/14/2006 6:40 AM >
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I have a black 3D Mag LED (1Watt)
black Streamlight ProPolymer 4AA (1Watt)
and looking at getting a Fenix P1, AMAZING little pocket light if you want something for more than just finding the keyhole.... (3Watt)

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Re: best flashlight
<Reply # 183 on 11/16/2006 2:21 AM >
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-my car's steadily dimming headlights
-2D black maglite soon to have a baton attachment just because it looks cool.
-mini mag
-BIC lighter.



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Re: best flashlight
<Reply # 184 on 11/16/2006 2:42 AM >
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Posted by Matteo
I have a black 3D Mag LED (1Watt)
black Streamlight ProPolymer 4AA (1Watt)
and looking at getting a Fenix P1, AMAZING little pocket light if you want something for more than just finding the keyhole.... (3Watt)


P1 is pretty neat, but it's also expensive (~$45-50 USD shipped) I might get this one instead though:
http://www.flashli.../dorcy_super1w.htm

It's USD 20 at Target in the states. not sure where to get it in Canada though.

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Re: best flashlight
<Reply # 185 on 11/19/2006 11:56 AM >
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Posted by Deuterium


P1 is pretty neat, but it's also expensive (~$45-50 USD shipped) I might get this one instead though:
http://www.flashli.../dorcy_super1w.htm

It's USD 20 at Target in the states. not sure where to get it in Canada though.


Indeed but the P1 is 3 watt.. 28 lux, compared to your typical 1 watt luxeon LED is around 20, excepting larger ones such as the Innova T3. In fact how I view the P1 is the output of a T3 (mind you I do not have a T3, have not seen it's output) in the package of a minimag (I (think) shorter but a bit fatter)
I Already own to Luxeon I's, so I am looking for something a bit different. and the cells are quite cheap for the P1, online.

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Re: best flashlight
<Reply # 186 on 11/29/2006 6:32 AM >
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I bought a Fenix P1 from

http://www.j2ledflashlight.com

I could not believe how small a flashlight that can deliver such a high power light. No wonder it is called the "Rocket".

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Re: best flashlight
<Reply # 187 on 11/29/2006 11:52 AM >
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Really dim LED lights are useful too. I picked up a $5 Energlzer LED penlight which is about the size of a Sharpie marker and it gives off just enough light to navigate your way and pretty good lighting for inspecting close up objects. Sometimes, you don't want to let the whole world see your beams going about.

Posted by Red Rocket
I bought a Fenix P1 from

http://www.j2ledflashlight.com

I could not believe how small a flashlight that can deliver such a high power light. No wonder it is called the "Rocket".


It isn't the flash light that is special. The power is in the special, expensive lithium battery. 6D Maglite is quite bright and it is big, but most of the bulk is allocated for housing batteries. The same light sawed down to eliminate the battery compartment size and fitted w/ high power lithium batteries instead would be eqaully bright at a fraction of size.



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Re: best flashlight
<Reply # 188 on 11/29/2006 1:56 PM >
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Posted by Red Rocket
I bought a Fenix P1 from

http://www.j2ledflashlight.com

I could not believe how small a flashlight that can deliver such a high power light. No wonder it is called the "Rocket".


Interesting first post. Think I'll just use that link you provided and order a dozen, maybe 2 dozen, what the hell it's Christmas.

Think I'll have some spam for breakfast too. It's hard to believe just how good gelatinous, congealed spam can taste, even after soooo many times.

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Re: best flashlight
<Reply # 189 on 12/3/2006 11:07 AM >
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Posted by Matteo


Indeed but the P1 is 3 watt.. 28 lux, compared to your typical 1 watt luxeon LED is around 20, excepting larger ones such as the Innova T3. In fact how I view the P1 is the output of a T3 (mind you I do not have a T3, have not seen it's output) in the package of a minimag (I (think) shorter but a bit fatter)
I Already own to Luxeon I's, so I am looking for something a bit different. and the cells are quite cheap for the P1, online.


The "3W" and "1W" LED emitters are quite similar. The real difference is how hard they're driven. There's a night and day difference between the same wattage LED rated flashlights because of this.

Also, the Mag 3D LED you noted as "1W" is considered a "3W" light like the P1 is considered "3W" in marketing terms.

The Fenix P1 is said to produce ~28 units of light on a review site but a 4AA "1 watt" UK Fire flashlight produces the same output and have a longer projection range (throw). The latter is much larger, but most of the space is allocated to house the batteries. It is the lithium battery technology that allows such a high output for the size. If you were to saw down a 6D maglite and convert to 3 x CR123A, it would be equally bright as before, but much much smalle so there's nothing special about what makes the P1 so bright.

Compared:
Fenix P1 ("3" W rated) 28 units throw: 31 units
Mag 3AA LED ("3W" rated) 40 units throw: 45 units
Mag 3D LED ("3W" rated) 48 units throw: 87 units



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Re: best flashlight
<Reply # 190 on 12/7/2006 9:02 PM >
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I think the best flashlight for general/infiltration purposes is a surefire A2 Aviator, because it has a super bright incandescant bulb and a set of LEDs (your color choice) so you can a really bright torch or use the LEDs to sneak around and not mess up your night vision. I also find the princeton tech Eos to be a very use full little headlamp

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Re: best flashlight
<Reply # 191 on 12/8/2006 4:59 PM >
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Posted by Matteo


Indeed but the P1 is 3 watt.. 28 lux, compared to your typical 1 watt luxeon LED is around 20, excepting larger ones such as the Innova T3. In fact how I view the P1 is the output of a T3 (mind you I do not have a T3, have not seen it's output) in the package of a minimag (I (think) shorter but a bit fatter)
I Already own to Luxeon I's, so I am looking for something a bit different. and the cells are quite cheap for the P1, online.


You may want to check this out also. P1 appear to have some issues with contact/switch.
http://www.candlep...hread.php?t=142788

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Re: best flashlight
<Reply # 192 on 12/9/2006 8:23 PM >
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Posted by Matteo
I have a black 3D Mag LED (1Watt)
black Streamlight ProPolymer 4AA (1Watt)
and looking at getting a Fenix P1, AMAZING little pocket light if you want something for more than just finding the keyhole.... (3Watt)


I also have that light and it is great. It's worth mentioning that the Streamlight 4AA Luxeon is the only flash light of the three you mentioned that is approved for use in places you explore where flammable atmosphere maybe present.

The Mag's your average consumer light and it isn't rated for use in hazardous places. I'm not sure what category Fenix is, but none of their products are listed for use in dangerous places, so it could ignite gases, dust and fiber either in normal switch operation or internal malfunction.

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After looking up some info, this is what I found on that Streamlight 4AA
http://www.streaml...fact-sheet/159.pdf

It is rated for Division 2 for class I & II.
Class I Div 2 A,B,C,D
Class II Div 2 F,G
Class III, T3C


Class I - Gases or vapors: Locations are areas where flammable gases may be present in sufficient quantities to produce explosive or flammable mixtures.

Division 2: flammable gases usually not present, but could be present due to abnormal conditions.

Group A - Atmospheres containing acetylene (welding gas)
Group B - Atmospheres containing hydrogen or gases or vapors of equivalent hazard such as manufactured gases
Group C - Atmospheres containing ethyl-ether vapors, ethylene, or cyclo-propane. (i.e. refineries)
Group D - Atmospheres containing gasoline, hexane, naptha, benzene, butane, propane, alcohol, acetone, benzol, lacquer solvent vapors, or natural gas (i.e. exploring refineries)

*Class II – Dust: Locations can be described as hazardous because of the presence of combustible dust.

*Division 2 - Surface accumulated, non-air suspended

-Group F - Atmospheres containing carbon black, coal, or coke dust (i.e. power houses, boilers)
-Group G - Atmospheres containing flour, starch, or grain dust (i.e. exploring grain elevators)

*Class III: combustible fibers. (i.e. textile factories)

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Re: best flashlight
<Reply # 193 on 12/11/2006 5:44 PM >
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I use a SureFire L1. It's got two brightness modes, The brighter of the two can light a large room and the dimmer lasts for quite a while and is great for sneaking. And it's cheap. (at least for a SureFire)

http://www.surefir...fnbr/932/sesent/00

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Re: best flashlight
<Reply # 194 on 12/12/2006 5:49 PM >
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Posted by Dages
I use a SureFire L1. It's got two brightness modes, The brighter of the two can light a large room and the dimmer lasts for quite a while and is great for sneaking. And it's cheap. (at least for a SureFire)

http://www.surefir...fnbr/932/sesent/00

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Re: best flashlight
<Reply # 195 on 12/12/2006 8:25 PM >
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When I went draining with Chronos the other day he had a brand spankin' new Inova X03 that he got for an early Christmas present.

It was impressive how bright it was but mostly, it was a throw monster...That thing had some serious optics and the beam had a VERY long throw. I want one...

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Help! What's the best headlamp?
<Reply # 196 on 12/13/2006 2:39 AM >
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I want to buy a headlamp for someone who is a rabid Urban Explorer.

(He hangs out here, but doesn't know I'm here... shhhhh....)

Which one should I buy? Which one is the best?

I REALLY appreciate any guidance.

Thanks SO much!!!






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Re: Help! What's the best headlamp?
<Reply # 197 on 12/13/2006 2:50 AM >
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I don't use headlamps so I really can't say, but if you consult this thread in the Tutorials section or use the search function you will surely come across something useful.

www.dkphotogroup.com
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Re: Help! What's the best headlamp?
<Reply # 198 on 12/13/2006 3:10 AM >
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My favorite lamp is made by Petzl. Also, everyone I UE, and camp with use Petzl headlamps and swear by them as well.

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Re: Help! What's the best headlamp?
<Reply # 199 on 12/13/2006 3:50 AM >
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I duct tape a foglamp to my head.

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