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<Reply # 60 on 3/6/2006 2:11 PM >
|  | | | I'm asthmatic. Obviously I always make sure I have my inhaler. I take prescription pills for it twice a day. They come in these tall orange prescription bottles.
These bottles are great!!!!
Mine are perfectly cylindrical, and are at least temporarily waterproof. They're great for packing small first aid kits. They are tall enough to fit tampons in (I know, I checked). They're nice because you just pack them up and then restock the supplies when needed. Tweezers and a needle and thread are items I always make sure to have.
I always save my prescription bottles. So, save your medicine bottles! (you don't have to be asthmatic) They are really handy.
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<Reply # 61 on 3/6/2006 2:46 PM >
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Superglue in the field, be it dermabond or the standard stuff isn't a great idea.
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Get a bottle of "New-skin" Same effects, antibacterial, and application is easier.
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<Reply # 62 on 3/6/2006 5:06 PM >
| | | | I had posted this in the private forum, but I fear alot of people are going to get one of these. Especially with the ease of use involved in these things. I might add I own this product, and luckly haven't needed it yet. I think everyone on my team is going to get one of these, and watch the video.
http://www.phildurango.com/videos.htm
I also sometimes carry a kit like this, but I don't always and alot of the kit is probably far more complicated then most here could use. Mine has basicly the same stuff, but made by a different manufacturer.
http://www.narescue.com/Product1.aspx?UserID=3444&SessionID=A3AwrNCyhNsELQ5p25Ac&SID=1&Product_ID=28
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<Reply # 63 on 3/6/2006 5:42 PM >
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Get a bottle of "New-skin" Same effects, antibacterial, and application is easier.
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Will it hold a deep laceration (that is if the laceration doesn't need internal sutures) together for 3-5 days minimum? Is it waterproof, can you take showers the length of the healing time? I like the super glue because you can pull a deep laceration together and bond it, as long as it isn't bleeding and dry at that spot. You must first flush the wound clean with blood, or water. The faster you clean a wound, and close it, the better.
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<Reply # 64 on 3/6/2006 6:08 PM >
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Will it hold a deep laceration (that is if the laceration doesn't need internal sutures) together for 3-5 days minimum? Is it waterproof, can you take showers the length of the healing time? I like the super glue because you can pull a deep laceration together and bond it, as long as it isn't bleeding and dry at that spot. You must first flush the wound clean with blood, or water. The faster you clean a wound, and close it, the better.
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It's defiantly waterproof, saltwater proof and I am not sure how good it is on deep lacerations(havent had one in a while), but it sticks like super glue and is about as thick as clear nail polish.
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<Reply # 65 on 3/6/2006 6:40 PM >
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It's defiantly waterproof, saltwater proof and I am not sure how good it is on deep lacerations(havent had one in a while), but it sticks like super glue and is about as thick as clear nail polish.
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If you tear it off, what gives way first. The skin or the "New-skin"? I've used super glue to close a .35 inch long gash that was to the bone on the bridge of my nose. There is no visible scar. For little stuff I leave it alone, or if it's getting rubbed I cover it with J&J tape, maybe a dab of Neosporin. I like my Windex too. Cleans equipment, and hands. I got a load of cuts on my hands from wait a minute vines the other day. A wet 12 by 12 cloth, water/Windex, was great for field clean-up.
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<Reply # 66 on 3/6/2006 8:26 PM >
| | | | Honestly I havent picked it off I let it pretty much rub/fall off over a 5-8 day period. It comes off when the tissue below finally goes. Its what I used for any minor wounds in Iraq, and two bottles went to the security guards and they were pleased, and alot more fucked up from barbed wire then myself.
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<Reply # 67 on 3/6/2006 9:02 PM >
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Honestly I havent picked it off I let it pretty much rub/fall off over a 5-8 day period. It comes off when the tissue below finally goes. Its what I used for any minor wounds in Iraq, and two bottles went to the security guards and they were pleased, and alot more fucked up from barbed wire then myself.
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That sounds about right. It's not a bad idea to have some way the protect wounds in the field. Infections aren't fun.
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<Reply # 68 on 3/6/2006 11:11 PM >
| | | | Results may vary for you on the toughness, might want to test it as its about the same price as super glue, probably better for you, and it has a nail polish brush style application.
Honestly superglue never lasts longer then 10 minutes on my skin until I peel it off.
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<Reply # 69 on 3/6/2006 11:56 PM >
| | | | I don't think newskin would be as durable as superglue. It tends to peel after a day or maybe two. It is absolutely FANTASTIC for small cuts (it's the hangnail king) but for larger stuff I think superglue might be better. I can't really see newskin holding a cut together...it seems to be more for just coverage....but I've never tried it for that purpose so who knows.
I don't mean to make it sound like I don't like the stuff though...I have some on a hangnail as I type. It is GREAT stuff for treating small cuts...so much nicer than a bandaid I can't even tell you. It's especially good if you're going to be in wet areas or have to use your hands and don't want a bandaid getting in the way. I definitely think the idea of using it to protect cuts from getting dirtier in the field is on point.
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<Reply # 70 on 3/7/2006 1:49 AM >
| | | | In my exploring I tend to go to places that are very hot and dry (steam tunnels). So my main problem is heat stroke/exhaustion. The best way I've found to counter this threat is to simply not spend much time down there, but of course I also carry water. An interesting note, about every 100 yards you go in the tunnels, you find sealed buckets of water, probably for workers who get caught down there without water. While ive never partaken of this water, Ive had some close calls with feeling way too hot. The worst was when there was a leak up ahead, needless to say we skedaddled. I really should start carrying a first aid kit, at least when I go to construction sites there are already kits there.
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<Reply # 71 on 3/7/2006 2:16 AM >
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In my exploring I tend to go to places that are very hot and dry (steam tunnels). So my main problem is heat stroke/exhaustion. The best way I've found to counter this threat is to simply not spend much time down there, but of course I also carry water. An interesting note, about every 100 yards you go in the tunnels, you find sealed buckets of water, probably for workers who get caught down there without water. While ive never partaken of this water, Ive had some close calls with feeling way too hot. The worst was when there was a leak up ahead, needless to say we skedaddled. I really should start carrying a first aid kit, at least when I go to construction sites there are already kits there.
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Best to bring your own kit and water with you. Where I work, we have to keep track of what is used. If you start using other people's kits, they would have no way of keeping track and when they need it, the kit may not be properly stocked. Also, you will be alerting people to your presence on the site and that can cause grief for other explorers.
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<Reply # 72 on 3/7/2006 2:38 AM >
| | | | On that note. I would use someone elses stuff if it was on hand, and I was injured. Be damned the consequences. However most sites even construction sites are usually missing half of there shit.
Also it might be smart, before you go in the tunnel is to drink till you have to pee. Once you get in that will go away pretty damn fast.
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<Reply # 73 on 3/7/2006 4:06 AM >
| | | | I almost want to get injured now so I can walk out of a site with pads duct-taped to my chest and tampons sticking out of my wounds.
Then I'd ride the bus home.
But on a more serious note, super glue? Is that really safe? How do you apply that to a wound? I mean, is it like glueing two bits of wood together, you just apply the glue to one end of the wound (afk- pause to puke) and then bring the two ends of the wound together? That sounds a bit too manly for me. Or have I got the procedure wrong?
SORRY I'M A N00B, but yeah I'd like to know this stuff before upping my game so that if I get impaled or whatever I can totally glue myself shut.
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<Reply # 74 on 3/7/2006 4:35 AM >
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I almost want to get injured now so I can walk out of a site with pads duct-taped to my chest and tampons sticking out of my wounds.
Then I'd ride the bus home.
But on a more serious note, super glue? Is that really safe? How do you apply that to a wound? I mean, is it like glueing two bits of wood together, you just apply the glue to one end of the wound (afk- pause to puke) and then bring the two ends of the wound together? That sounds a bit too manly for me. Or have I got the procedure wrong?
SORRY I'M A N00B, but yeah I'd like to know this stuff before upping my game so that if I get impaled or whatever I can totally glue myself shut.
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Here are two links. You have to be able to see and work on the wound, preferably with both hands. The wound must be clean, no debris in it. It needs to be dry at the bond points. Play with it, and go for as perfect alignment as possible. Since your not going through the skin with a needle there's less trauma to the tissue. It may take practice to get good at it. I "practiced" on some smaller cuts that didn't need sutures but were more than surface scratches. If your not conforbably doing this, don't!
http://www.aafp.or...20000301/1383.html
This link has videos showing the technics:
http://www.myprece...COURSEID=dermabond
If the wound needs internal sutures; long, deep lacerations, on joints like the knee and elbow, etc. this is not suitable. The sooner you close the wound the better the results, and the faster the healing time. Tissue dies when exposed to air, always get deep lacerations that need sutures closed ASAP.
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<Reply # 75 on 3/7/2006 5:21 AM >
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Ooozin green puss, itchy feeling, redness around the wound. Scars and stripes?
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On the money, but don't forget soreness radiating further and further from the wound.
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<Reply # 76 on 3/7/2006 5:23 AM >
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But on a more serious note, super glue? Is that really safe? How do you apply that to a wound? I mean, is it like glueing two bits of wood together, you just apply the glue to one end of the wound (afk- pause to puke) and then bring the two ends of the wound together? That sounds a bit too manly for me. Or have I got the procedure wrong?
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Not that we ever covered this in training or application, but the only things I can imagine that super glue would NOT be ok to use is in deep wounds. Shallow cuts and such would be no problem. But with the deeper wounds, I'd be worried that the veins, arteries, muscles, etc would be damaged but only covered up by the super glue pulling the skin over the wound. Just.. be smart about using this stuff.
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<Reply # 77 on 3/7/2006 5:29 AM >
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<Reply # 78 on 3/7/2006 6:02 AM >
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Not that we ever covered this in training or application, but the only things I can imagine that super glue would NOT be ok to use is in deep wounds. Shallow cuts and such would be no problem. But with the deeper wounds, I'd be worried that the veins, arteries, muscles, etc would be damaged but only covered up by the super glue pulling the skin over the wound. Just.. be smart about using this stuff.
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As long as it doesn't need internal sutures, or have other internal damage it's O.K. to use. High tension areas, no go. If it's deep the chances of infection are most likely less because you don't have to farther damage the tissue with sutures. If it becomes infected as with sutures the treatment is the same. If you apply in 5 or 10 minutes of the injury the wound heals very rapidly. Your right you need good common sense, and some skill to do this. Don't try closing a one inch laceration like this if you never played with smaller cuts, or if you aren't comfortable doing it. This is not for the faint hearted. You may need antibiotics etc. if so you'll need to see a doctor. If it shows signs of infection see a doctor ASAP!
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