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BeaverBanker
    
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Gender: Male
A Hobo In A Orange Sweater
 |  | Cameras (the type that catch you)
< on 1/10/2006 9:55 PM >
|  | | | I know someone on here is a camera expert with this stuff .
What type of camera are these? Do they track you as you walk?
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MindHacker
location:
Suburbs of DC
Gender: Male
If you spot a terrorist arrow, pin it to the wall with your shoulder.
| | Re: Cameras (the type that catch you)
<Reply # 1 on 1/10/2006 10:16 PM >
|  | | | That would be a "Suhr-vale-ence" camera. The catch you on videotape/harddisk. It probably won't track you as you walk unless its being driven, which means it has to be watched. Use common sense, assess security, and see if they seem like they would spend the $ to pay people to watch them. Usually its just recorded and reviewed when the place gets robbed.
so....
Where is it?
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BeaverBanker
location:
Canunkastan
Gender: Male
A Hobo In A Orange Sweater
| | Re: Cameras (the type that catch you)
<Reply # 2 on 1/11/2006 2:37 AM >
| | | | They Are all over the side of our school, and if there nonmobile well i found a blind spot to the roof.
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Zensins
location:
Florida
Gender: Male
Sunlight on chrome, the blur of the landscape, every nerve aware.
| | Re: Cameras (the type that catch you)
<Reply # 3 on 1/11/2006 3:07 AM >
| | | | It looks like a small CCD camera inside a weatherproof/vandalproof enclosure. Since they have lots of them scattered around you can probably assume they're cheap and low res. They're also going to be wide angle which means unless you get close, facial recognition will likely be pretty tough. Like a previous post mentioned, if these cameras are newly installed, they probably all run to a server where images are captured to a hard drive. Now for the bad news. If this is a computer run surveillance system you can count on it having video motion sensing. Any significant and sudden change in the image will cause 1) an alert to go out and 2) the video to start recording beginning a few seconds before the motion occurred. No one needs to be watching all the cameras all the time. The alerts can go out to a monitor screen, email, pager, etc. It can even email screen caps. So while concealing your identity will likely be trivial, this system will be very effective at alerting people to your presence and activities.
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spyguy67
Gender: Male
| | Re: Cameras (the type that catch you)
<Reply # 4 on 1/11/2006 5:22 AM >
| | | | that pic looks like a silent witness type cam.
if you can get a better photo i could tell you more.
if it is a silent witness it does not move, and it can be programmed for motion detection it does not need to be
on a server or PC. the resoloution is extremly good on these cams.
if you can get another photo try to get one showing the cam itself as in close up.
if i can find my manuals i will scan and post some stuff
but i have no idea where they are at the moment
Wil
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TylerDurden
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Worcester, Ma
Gender: Male
| |  | Re: Cameras (the type that catch you)
<Reply # 5 on 1/11/2006 5:31 AM >
| | | | The enclosure style is very common so it's really hard to tell exactly what kind of camera that is. It all depends on the TYPE of building it's on. For example on a school those are probably static, non motion sensing cameras. However the satellite uplink station I visited had those same "style" camera, ie the casing style, and those had motion sensors that were computer controlled but the entire system could also be manually overriden to zoom in on specific activity with disgusting accuracy. Only thing you have going for you is the size of this enclosure is pretty small. The likely hood of this being a super high quality camera is low as they usually have larger casings.
However, these cameras are designed to catch people and serve as evidence in the occurence of theft. Don't buy that shit about they prolly won't be able to pick up your face.
Also, the last silent witness model I saw looked more like a traditional camera with IR lights around the lens... though I'm sure they've got several different models...
EDIT: That enclosure's true intention is to cut glare from light to give a clear image. It also protects from the weather, but even inside cameras have the same casing.
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Pravus
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Gender: Male
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<Reply # 7 on 1/11/2006 9:43 AM >
| | | | *shrug*
Notta clue. loots like any other camera to me.. but I basically treat all cameras like they are active, pointing at me or where I want to go and some guy is watching the screen like a hawk.. thats the only thing you can be certain of.. for all it matters there could be no camera and just the dome.. but how would you know unless you went up to it, in which yer on camera...
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quinwound
 
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Rochester
| | | Re: Cameras (the type that catch you)
<Reply # 9 on 1/18/2006 3:34 AM >
| | | | Blind the camera? (one of those 3 million candle lights) It would alert whoever was watching, but your identity would be concealed, and your actions.
Would that work?
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spyguy67
Gender: Male
| | Re: Cameras (the type that catch you)
<Reply # 10 on 1/20/2006 5:44 AM >
| | | | blining a cam will not work most have auto lenses that will compensate for any light changes
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Azrael
location:
South West UK
Gender: Male
| | Re: Cameras (the type that catch you)
<Reply # 11 on 1/20/2006 11:01 AM >
| | | | You'd need some sort of laser changing in an oscillating pattern that can blind cameras and people, it constantly changes so their eyes/lenses cannot adjust. Such a device was trialed by SWAT but is actually illegal under US law, it is about the size of a torch but uses green lasers. You couldn't get one, its pointless trying so try and find a different way.
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FoxTwoFoxTwo
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Clarksville, Tennessee
Gender: Male
I'm an explorer who photographs...
| | | Re: Cameras (the type that catch you)
<Reply # 12 on 1/20/2006 1:28 PM >
|  | | | Wasnt that the one that could pop balloons with its intensity? If so i dont believe that should be carried and should be classified as a weapon. Because no one wants to be blind.
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Gender: Male
We were playing flashlight tag, officer!
| | | Re: Cameras (the type that catch you)
<Reply # 13 on 1/20/2006 5:58 PM >
| | | | If I were you, I'd be more worried about motion detectors on the camera alerting police/security to your presence. It would be rather impossible to explain yourself down from a school roof...people don't mess around with schools at all.
...but if all you're worried about is identification, not being discovered, then do this: wear dark, nondescript clothing, possibly something you wouldn't normally wear. Get a tshirt and do this: http://www.enterth.../shirt_ninja.shtml
I'm almost embarassed to link to that site, but hey, if it works who cares, right? Instant tshirt balaclava that can be put on in seconds and torn off quickly in the event that you'd run into anybody. It's served me well in the past.
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Axle
location:
Milton, ON
Gender: Male
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| | Re: Cameras (the type that catch you)
<Reply # 14 on 1/20/2006 11:16 PM >
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Similar model, found at Sheridan College, Oakville to watch the parking lots
Celer at Audax
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spyguy67
Gender: Male
| | Re: Cameras (the type that catch you)
<Reply # 15 on 1/23/2006 4:08 AM >
| | | | Posted by Axle
Similar model, found at Sheridan College, Oakville to watch the parking lots
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that is a PTZ Camera and with those at some point there is someone watching.
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Ninjako
location:
Winnipeg
Gender: Male
I Wonder What's In Here
| | Re: Cameras (the type that catch you)
<Reply # 16 on 2/17/2006 11:17 PM >
| | | | It could be any type of camera, that is a very common enclosure.
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underdark
Gender: Male
| | Re: Cameras (the type that catch you)
<Reply # 17 on 2/18/2006 2:04 AM >
| | | | #1-worry less about the camera, worry about the alarm system. A ski mask will save you from the cam, but one phone call to the cops from AlarmPro and you'll get to explain it to guys with blue lights and guns.
#2-that other camera pic looks like the ones they put on some larger postal facilities. They are really quite good, and in the case of the USPS, monitored.
#3-shirt ninja. BWA HA-HA-HA!
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J Peterman
location:
Victoria B.C.
I'm going hunting for mysteries, cover me.
| | Re: Cameras (the type that catch you)
<Reply # 18 on 2/18/2006 3:56 AM >
| | | | What about them chaffing grenades, you know...like from Metal Gear Solid?
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M. Fuzzy
location:
GTA
Gender: Male
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| | Re: Cameras (the type that catch you)
<Reply # 19 on 2/18/2006 10:24 AM >
| | | | What about the more forceful approach of smashing it, running away, and coming back when the fuss about who broke the camera cleared.
A nice ski mask an a bat should do the trick  Of course ethically however
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