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Slyv
     
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Belgium, kingdom of UE
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 20 on 12/27/2005 8:46 AM >
|  | | | Glad you're ok.
By the way which building was that so that we do not make the same mistake?
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res_novae
location:
NoVA
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 21 on 12/27/2005 3:02 PM >
| | | | I was recently chased by a large dog (Mastiff). Through much fault of my own and the owner though.
I was hiking through the woods at night, and some dude was walking his aggressive dog, without a leash, figuring no one would be out at night (I was calling in a fox...which also helped bring in the dog...). The dog came in and charged, and panicking, I ran. No, there were no trees to climb nearby, just some elms that would bend under my weight.
I did the only thing I could think of, pulled out my little really bright LED light, and shined it in the dogs eyes while running backwards and side to side.
I figure the dog was just trying to protect its owner, being as it didn't just ignore the bright light and tear out my throat, but if all you got is a flashlight, It might work.
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wakeupmonster
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Troy, NY
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 22 on 12/27/2005 7:23 PM >
| | | | There is a weak spot in the middle of a dogs chest. If it comes down to it, a swift kick to this area would most likely kill the dog. Also, this may sound like a bad idea but it works. If a dog jumps for your neck and its mouth is open for the bite, shove your fist down its throat. Its hard to do but it may be your only option if its going for your throat. The dog cant bite down if you have your clenched fist in its mouth. Your hand will most likely get scratched up but its either that or no longer having a throat. If the dog has already bitten you and wont let go, place your thumbs in the joints of the jaws on either side, the same way you would if youve ever had to give a dog medicine. Its a natural reflex for the dog to open its mouth. Your best bet is obviously to stay away from dogs.
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metalwitch40
location:
mass.
Gender: Female
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<Reply # 23 on 12/27/2005 9:36 PM >
| | | | Carry a big bag of milk bones in your back pack, if that fails, run like hell.
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KublaKhan
location:
Edinburgh, Scotland
With Satan, it's always gimmie, gimmie.
| | Re: Attacking Dogs
<Reply # 24 on 12/28/2005 2:45 AM >
|  | | | Posted by Mark
PS KublaKhan - An ice pick would be fine but there are several detractors. Understress putting a icepick in a eye is like trying to threading a fire hose through a needle. The limited effects of a small weapon like that requires a precision rarely seen even in most martial arts circles. Fighting off any animal with a knife is hard, fighting off multiple animals becomes excessively more difficult.
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Mark, Dear Brother...I will never doubt your killing acumen. Never. You're on my team.
So long as we never discuss your asshole idiot President.
Love always,
KK.
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Plytheman
 
location:
Lawrence, Massachusetts
Obey The Deer
| | | Re: Attacking Dogs
<Reply # 25 on 12/28/2005 5:44 AM >
| | | | Sucks that you got attacked but for being surrounded by four angry dogs you seemed to have come out of it in good shape. Just get checked up and make sure the dogs didn't have rabies or anything.
As for defense against dogs, I'll say this much: either they dont feel pain or they just dont care. My dog is some kind of mutt, no one's 100% positive on whats in him since we found him as a stray, but by the looks of him there's some Shepherd and Rotty, god knows what else. He's only a medium sized dog, but its all muscle. Great demeanor, would never intentionally hurt anyone, but thats beside the point. He's pretty independent and knows what he wants and how to get it (plays the cute card so well when begging for food, only comes when you call if it suits his interests) and he loves to run out the door. He'll lie down a few feet away and look like he's gonna behave, but as soon as one person gets out the door and the next is walking out, he guns it. Honest to god, I've slammed my leg against him pinning him to the door jam and he doesn't even slow down. I'm pretty sure people have closed the door on him before to the same effect, he'll be pinned there and still be trying to run. Once he gets his mind on something, nothing will stop him besides physically immobilizing him. Which brings me to my point:
Beat the hell out of these dogs with whatever you want; your boots, a two by four, some rocks, nothing will stop them until they get their jaws on you. About the only thing I've read that would probably really work is when the dog punces at you, grab a leg in each hand and pull them apart. If you break it's legs, it can't run at you to rip you apart. Its sounds about as cruel as it is, so I wouldn't do it unless I was really desperate, but its honestly the only thing that will stop an attack. When the dog charges you it'll probably run full speed then pounce (least thats what my dog dose when he's play fighting) and it isn't all too hard to get a leg in each hand. Otherwise I'd say to hold the dog by its throat for the sake of keeping its teeth as far from you as you can.
Also, while the squatters and dogs have no right to be there, the dog is probably still running only on instinct and shitty training from it's owner, so its not entirely the dogs fault. But if it came down to me or the dog, I'd still do whatever it takes to allow me to walk/run away.
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pyro
location:
Toronto
Gender: Male
| | Re: Attacking Dogs
<Reply # 26 on 12/28/2005 5:50 AM >
| | | | Posted by Plytheman
I've read that would probably really work is when the dog punces at you, grab a leg in each hand and pull them apart. If you break it's legs, it can't run at you to rip you apart. |
I believe pulling the front legs apart quickly kills the dog, something about it's rib cage breaking or something? Not sure exactly what happens when you pull the legs but the dog will definitely not be a threat anymore.
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dlp_qc
location:
Québec cité
Gender: Male
What have you learned today ?
| | Re: Attacking Dogs
<Reply # 27 on 12/28/2005 4:33 PM >
|  | | | Quote from ECODEFENSE
Guard Dogs
http://www.omnipre...ost.org/ch9txt.htm
TRANQUILIZERS - Dogs that will accept meat baits can be slipped tranquilizers early in the evening, allowing you time for the drug to take effect. Adding a little garlic to a meat bait can make it even more attractive to most dogs.
The most effective tranquilizers for oral administration are the CNS depressants derived from Phenothiazine or Promazine. These include:
Propiopromazine HCL (Tranvet)
Triflupromazine HCL (Vetame)
Acetylpromazine (Acepromazine)
Chlorpromazine (Thorazine)
Valium
These are all rated "relatively nontoxic." Clinical dosages for sedative effect would be less than 100 mg for a large dog. Actual field use would require more, up to 600 mg. The effects will be noticed within 15 minutes of ingestion and include ataxia (loss of coordination) in the hindquarters, drooping eyelids, and eventually, lying down. Fullest effect can take from 30 to 60 minutes.
Tranquilized dogs are best snared and then secured by means of a chain and heavy clip. Lightweight snaps and nylon webbing are not sufficient to hold a large dog.
The aforementioned drugs are available by prescription only. You will need to have a sympathetic vet, or try to get tranquilizers from a vet by explaining that you are driving a friend's large dog cross country and that the dog needs sedatives before he'll ride in a car. Thorazine and valium are, of course, prescribed for humans, so they may be obtainable from other sources than veterinarians. Many drugs are available without a prescription in Mexico.
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ofberenonehand
location:
Minn-e-snow-ta
"Where now is Boromir the Fair? He tarries and I grieve."
| | Re: Attacking Dogs
<Reply # 28 on 12/28/2005 5:17 PM >
| | | | Yeah, 30 to 60 minutes of waiting for the thing to fall asleep is going to save you from an attacking dog...
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TylerDurden
location:
Worcester, Ma
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Attacking Dogs
<Reply # 29 on 12/28/2005 5:27 PM >
| | | | My boss suggested bringing around a small hand held fire extinguisher. It will hold people and dogs at bay along with putting out fires! In all seriousness, this is prolly your best bet.
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Plytheman
location:
Lawrence, Massachusetts
Obey The Deer
| | | Re: Attacking Dogs
<Reply # 30 on 12/28/2005 5:36 PM >
| | | | Posted by TylerDurden
My boss suggested bringing around a small hand held fire extinguisher. It will hold people and dogs at bay along with putting out fires! In all seriousness, this is prolly your best bet.
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And once it runs out you could probably land a few good hits on the dog's head with the empty can. =D
"Many drugs are available without a prescription in Mexico"
Now thats not a very general statement. Who wants to roadtrip?!
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Jonsered
 
location:
Back in New Mexico where I belong
Gender: Male
Dressed for a scarecrow ball.........
| |  | | Re: Attacking Dogs
<Reply # 31 on 12/28/2005 5:36 PM >
| | | | Posted by TylerDurden
My boss suggested bringing around a small hand held fire extinguisher.
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I'm with TYler on this one. Both eyes full of dry chemical powder will surely lessen his interest in you, giving you a chance to get away. Furthermore, if you can find one of the older Halon extinguishers, more the better. Halon is actually toxic as hell and can disable or kill. Decent range, at least a couple of shots, and I can't imagine its illegal anywhere to carry a fire extinguisher.
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mayhem154
location:
New Orleans
Gender: Male
Hello...
| | Re: Attacking Dogs
<Reply # 32 on 12/28/2005 8:15 PM >
| | | | We gave the my parents neighbors dog Tylenol PM crushed in a Scooby Snack to get him to stop barking. Worked like a charm. He fell asleep in about 15 minutes and was fine the next day.
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TylerDurden
location:
Worcester, Ma
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Attacking Dogs
<Reply # 33 on 12/28/2005 10:09 PM >
| | | | Yeah fire extinguishers are great since they aren't illegal and will really fuck shit up. Plus it doesn't cause a rage attack like pepper spray will, it just chokes and disables.
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Mark
Very Noble Donor
location:
South Carolina
Gender: Male
What is a lion, king of the savannah, when hes at the south pole?
| | Re: Attacking Dogs
<Reply # 34 on 12/29/2005 12:33 PM >
| | | | Posted by Jonsered
I'm with TYler on this one. Both eyes full of dry chemical powder will surely lessen his interest in you, giving you a chance to get away. Furthermore, if you can find one of the older Halon extinguishers, more the better. Halon is actually toxic as hell and can disable or kill. Decent range, at least a couple of shots, and I can't imagine its illegal anywhere to carry a fire extinguisher.
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unfortunately if you let that stuff go in a abandoned house you might end up taking a trip to the hospital, or worse.
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ofberenonehand
location:
Minn-e-snow-ta
"Where now is Boromir the Fair? He tarries and I grieve."
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<Reply # 36 on 12/29/2005 6:36 PM >
| | | | Ammonia. Hello... Stops dogs. Doesn't crack their rib cages open like everyone else seems to want to do. A whole lot easier than carrying a fire extinguisher around.
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FoxTwoFoxTwo
location:
Clarksville, Tennessee
Gender: Male
I'm an explorer who photographs...
| | | Re: Attacking Dogs
<Reply # 37 on 12/29/2005 9:21 PM >
| | | | Yeah, I could suggest carrying around some white ammonia in a spray bottle. It is very caustic in their eyes and hurts their sensitive noses. Simple, relatively non-lethal, fully legal, effectice, and cheap.
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TylerDurden
location:
Worcester, Ma
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Attacking Dogs
<Reply # 38 on 12/30/2005 2:04 AM >
| | | | Only thing about ammonia, I would be concerned about being searched and having ammonia. Give me some kind of poison terrorism charge or something.
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location:
North County San Diego
Gender: Male
We were playing flashlight tag, officer!
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<Reply # 39 on 12/30/2005 4:59 AM >
| | | | Yesterday we were driving around in search of an abandoned factory when we passed an used auto yard with guard dogs. Well, the gate to the place was open and one of the pitbulls decided to chase the car. It managed to keep in stride with me up to and a little over 30 mph before it finally dropped back...thought it was going to leap into my open window. I had no idea how fast those thing can be.
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